by David Haber
These are the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Snape is not really a Death Eater, has remained loyal to Dumbledore, and all through the book, Snape is working on Dumbledore's Orders.
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Someone picked that Snape was a teacher at Hogwarts prior to James and Lily's . Had he already faithfully turned to Dumbledore? Was he informed about Voldemort's intentions of ing James and Harry? Was Dumbledore himself informed of Voldemort's intentions?
Posted by herve from france on January 8, 2007 08:02 AM
According to the given facts we have on Severus Snape OotP Chapter Seventeen EDUCATIONAL DECREE NUMBER TWENTY-FOUR, we most certainly know that his teaching career started in Hogwarts in 1981 and BEFORE Lily and James Potter were ed on 31st October 1981.
Since HBP Chapter Twenty-Five “THE SEER OVERHEARD” we know that it was Snape who, spying for Voldemort in 1980, informed LV of the Prophecy, which let to the betrayal of Harry’s parents thanks to Peter Pettigrew!
To this day, we don’t know what made Snape change his heart and go to Dumbledore, telling him of the “terrible mistake” he had made. Whatever he told Professor Dumbledore must have convinced that wise old man so profoundly, that he accepted it and gave him the job as the “Potions Master” and at the same time making him “Head of Slytherin-House.”
Dumbledore trusted Snape until his “” including the fact that he was spying for him and “the Order of the Phoenix”. Quoting Remus Lupin, “Its Dumbledore’s business. Dumbledore trusts Severus, and that ought to be good enough for all of us.”
As I said before, I have a soft spot for Snape, and I want to refuse till stubbornness that he ed in cold blood Dumbledore. With this statement agreeing with the “entire Snape supporter’s” that he won’t abandon Harry in the last battle against Voldemort, not out of love for Harry, but for Lily and great devotion for Dumbledore!
Posted by Mistral from Zürich, Switzerland on January 8, 2007 11:13 AM
I just thought of something. When Narcissa is speaking with Snape about Draco's mission she is making it clear that the only way Draco fail is if he s, which she admits is very likely. While making the unbreakable vow, the last thing she says is if Draco fails, Snape finish the task, which he said yes to. The whole year he offered Draco help. That may have been to protect Draco from so he, Severus would not have to Dumbledore. I believe that is one of the reasons he truly got mad at Harry for The Sectemsumpra curse. Snape fled at the very end with a living Draco. That is why Snape did not . Draco has not yet failed. In case I am confusing anyone, I definitely believe Dumbledore is still alive.
Posted by Marc Silverman from Arizona on January 8, 2007 4:44 PM
Mistral, you confirm what I thought: Snape was already on Dumbledore side several months before James and Lily d. Then, if Snape was aware of Voldemort's plans, so was Dumbledore himself. That is something he never tells Harry; it is only said he advised James to use a Fidelitas Charm and get Godric Hollows unplottable; we know how weak a protection it was. Wouldn't that explain he is never at ease with Harry concerning his past?
In fact, Harry could consider Dumbledore not having done his best to save his parents. On the other side, if Dumbledore had to choose between the James' safety and Voldemort's defeat, he would obviously have chosen Voldemort's defeat. That would be very hard for Harry (and all the young readers) to hear of.
Posted by herve from strasbourg, france on January 9, 2007 12:18 AM
One thing that ALWAYS gives me a headache is trying to figure out the timeing between Snape going to Dumbledore and Petigrew betraying Lilly and James.
If Petigrew went to Morty first wouldn't Snape have know and warned Dumbledore? If Snape joined Dumbledore wouldn't Petigrew have told his new master right away?
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 9, 2007 09:38 AM
In my opinion one thing is crucial: Why does Dummbledore trust Snape completely? The awnser to that is quite simple:
Snape is the real father of Harry. He maybe had an affair with Lily and Harry was born. James stole his place and therefore he was angry, but he would never his own son! Mark my words, this be the plot. He had to Dumbledore to get close to Voldemort; Snape is the only person Voldemort would believe to be defecting.
Posted by Siekie from Amsterdam on January 10, 2007 04:21 AM
Siekie, WOW. I thought I went out on a limb when I said Narcissa, not Lilly, was the object of Snape's affection. I applaud your courage. I suspect your prediction not be universally accepted, but it's no more unlikely than anything else on here.
Keep the new ideas coming.
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 10, 2007 07:25 AM
I seriously doubt that Snape is Harry's father. The books are always going on about how much Harry looks like James, except that he has Lilly's eyes.
Posted by Kim Davis from Princeton West Virginia on January 10, 2007 09:20 AM
I see where you might be coming from but in every single book someone tells Harry that he looks just like James. Even Harry knows it when he goes into Snape's pensieve. And if Snape was his father, why would he have such a deep loathing for Harry? I dont think Snape and Harry are in anyway related. I think he resents Harry and the rest of the order because before Dumbledore's "", only Dumbledore believed Snape was good. But he has saved Harry's life. Even with what he told Bella in Chapter 2 of HBP about him only letting Harry stop Voldemort from getting the sorceror's stone because he thought Quirrel was greedy, he still saved Harry's life when Quirrel was jinking his broom. And when the troll was in the dungeon, Snape went to head Quirrel off instead of what Dumbledore told the staff to do. I wish I could say that Dumbledore cannot be fooled but he did trust Quirrel and Barty Crouch Jr. as Moody. I think Snape is going to secretly help Harry destroy Horcruxes though. He, like Voldemort, did not just see Harry as an unworthy half-blood(even though he pretended he did), he knew Harry would be dangerous to Voldemort. Voldemort is a fool but Snape is not. He knows there is a lot more to Harry than meets the eye.
Posted by Marc Silverman from Arizona on January 10, 2007 09:37 AM
Snape is definitely NOT Harry's real father... This is stated on JO's website in the Rumours Section! On 18.02.04 she was asked if Voldemort was Harry's father... and she said No, James is absolutely Harry's father!
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on January 10, 2007 09:40 AM
Good deducing on David Haber's part!
i think Dumbledore is , although i must say; that was some good deducing on your part Herve, seriously. I noticed a lot of the same things, the second time i read HBP. I think it was a plan for Dumbledore to let Snape him. My theory is that by sacrificing himself for Harry, he's giving Harry more of that "love protection," he originally got from his mother (although, not necessarily as strong, as it's not running through his bloodlines). But i don't think Dumbledore's coming back.
i think Snape is definately good. i just want to add to the list of your proofs, this:
"The Patronus is an immensely efficient messenger for several reasons: it is an anti-Dark Arts device, which makes it highly resilient to interference from Dark wizards"
this is a direct quote from JK's website, and when i read it i immediately remembered something:
in HBP, when Harry is going up to the castle with Tonks b/c of his run in with Malfoy, Tonks sends a Patronus up to the castle to have someone come down and unlock the gate. who comes? who got the Patronus? Snape! at that point Tonks says she intended for Dumbledore to get it. dun dun dun.
if Snape is a dedicated Eater, that makes his a "dark wizard," and thereby making it impossible for him to have intercepted Tonks' Patronus.
Posted by aldhaphera from NJ on January 10, 2007 9:22 PM
I had asked earlier if any one else thought that Lilly's protection, the protection born of her sacrifice that expire when Harry turns17, could be "RENEWED" by another sacrifice... The mother protects the child. The teacher protects the pupil?
I think any teacher could have intercepted that message since Hagrid wasn't there...but I agree that Snape is not evil.
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 12, 2007 08:48 AM
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