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Dumbledore Is Not !
by David Haber
Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is. Snape's betrayal and the of Dumbledore caught me completely by surprise. Dumbledore was , and on top of that, Snape had done it. And all of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really , or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Eater, and he Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.
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Reader Comments: (Page 12)
I think that Dumbledore is not and would like to add one additional possible clue. In the HBP the "draught of living " is introduced. As Harry stirs his potion in the Slughorn lesson, it gets paler and paler, so possible it is quite close to white. The potion that Dumbledore drinks near the end is green. However, there is a green light: A white potion, illuminated by a green light would be green.
It is a little bit far-fetched, as he who must not be named has no reason to hide his horcrux in such a potion.
And Dumbledore, who has planned his , would hardly leave it to a coincidence.
But perhaps there was a good reason for he who must not be named to hide his horcrux in such a potion and Dumbledore knew?
And as this side says: The draught of living is the only potion without function in the story.
Posted by Doris from Austria on November 12, 2006 6:35 PM
That's a very good thought, Doris. And I have a reason for why Voldemort would have that be the potion protecting his horcrux.
Do you remember when Harry was very worried about Dumbledore drinking it? Dumbledore said that it would not him, because Voldemort would want to know who he was, what he knew, etc. We don't know how long the effects of the Draught of the Living last. Possibly there is a spell that must be done to lift it, in which case the intruder would remain there until Voldemort came, no matter how long that took. Also, if RAB did really plant that fake locket there, who's to say that that potion is the one that Voldemort put there originally?
Posted by Eileen from Alberta, Canada on November 13, 2006 3:12 PM
Well, I think that what Mikey is said is sooo totally right. HAs anyone else here come up with that? That is SUCH a brilliant observation! What does everyone else think? His comment is the last on page eleven, and it is the best clue in this entire index so far. So read it guys, and tell me what you think! I think he is so onto something!
Posted by Jelly Pie from Fly on November 14, 2006 2:24 PM
I was rereading The Sorcerers Stone last night and in Harry's very first Potions lesson with Snape, Snape taunts Harry with a series of questions that he knows Harry won't be able to answer. The first is what do you get when you by mixing a root of Asphodel and an infusion of Wormwood. It is a most sleeping potion so powerful it is known as the Draught of Living . As JK Rowling seems to never mention something so specific without another purpose, I propose that this potion, combined with whatever spell threw him over the tower, are what gave Dumbledore the appearance of being .
Posted by DHayes on November 15, 2006 07:50 AM
RAB is sirius's bro regulus and he stole a horcrux and destroyed it, and then he tried to run, but got ed.
Also dumby isn't because harry can't voldi with just ron and hermione so he would need some help. Just as he would need help with snape so dumby must be alive.
I also think he is . This is because his portrait is in the head office and it only goes in there if YOU ARE DEAD!
Posted by Aton from Manaloking, NJ on November 15, 2006 4:33 PM
Well, not deciding is, in a way, a decision. :-)
I would like to point out that we do not know for sure you have to be to have a portrait. That is never said in the books.
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on November 15, 2006 4:37 PM
ok on the second page Pavan Srivatsava says that it is Dumbledor's brother, not Albus Dumbledor who is . That is a really cool idea but still, do you really think that Albus would really condem his brother to . ok so all the piont you made are good, but there is no way he would do that. Even if he did, and Harry finds out, do you really think that Harry forgive him. Harry is the one who has basically lost every parental figure he has ever felt close to. After Harry's loss of family, why would he still follow Albus after giving up his brother like that?
Posted by Stella from NY on November 16, 2006 08:03 AM
Well, Stella... you have a good point. However, Dumbledore realizes he is at the top of the list for most powerful wizards of all time. He might have had to make a choice- let his brother , or let the world perish. Dumbledore may be a caring person but he is definitely not stupid. Hmmm.... I don't know though.
By the way, when DD and LV are dueling and DD says he wants more than for LV what do you think he meant exactly? There are of course things worse than , like insanity. (LV is already basically insane though.) What do you think DD had in mind?
Posted by Mark H from MI on November 17, 2006 6:19 PM
Mark, I don't know exactly but I am hazarding a guess that DD meant a condition similar to what Dementors do. Suck the soul out of you. I am not saying that's what DD had in his mind (using dementors on LV) but something similar to it. When you exist as an empty shell without any sense of self. Or maybe he was being enigmatic as usual.
As for the of Aberforth, he's more than a 150 years (being DD's elder brother and DD himself being 150). I think for Aberforth ' be but the next great adventure as he has a fairly organised mind.' (In DD's words). But if you ask me, I don't think it was Aberforth who d that night. I don't think anybody d at all.
Posted by Aditi from Nagpur, India on November 18, 2006 04:57 AM
Good question Mark….what did Dumbledodre mean when he said to Voldemort: We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man, Tom”
I am speculating that AD was talking about that other Dark Lord called GRINDELWALD. The same he defeated in 1945. My guess has always been that Voldemort, after finishing school at Hogwarts, met Grindelwald.
Does it not say in HBP Chapter Twenty “LORD VOLDEMORT’s REQUEST” that LV had vanished for some years, after he had stolen The Locket and The Cup” from Hebzibah Smith?
I would not be surprised if he met Grindelwald, How goes the saying: “Birds of a feather flock together”. This infamous DARK Wizard did definitely know about HORCRUXES. I mean he was important enough to be vanquished by Professor Dumbledore!
When reading the dialogue between Dumbledore and Voldemort in OotP, it gives the impression as if Dumbledore is reminding LV of an event that has happened in the past. Something HE, Voldemort knows about………
It never says AD KILLED Grindelwald but defeated him.( Though we know from Jo’s interview that he is deceased.)
What if Grindelwald had made ONE Horcrux and he Voldemort knew about his dark secret? That would explain why it does not say KILLED but defeated.
Voldemort being “delusions of grandeur” snatched this opportunity to be himself THE NUMBER ONE of all dark Wizards!
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on November 18, 2006 05:48 AM
Mistral, I think you've got a good thing going on there. I'm completely in favour of thinking that there was some communication between the 2 dark wizards. But, though Grindelwald may have made a Horcrux I don't think that has anything to do with what DD might have referred to in the Ministry about other ways of destroying a man.
Posted by Aditi from Nagpur, India on November 18, 2006 07:31 AM
I got so carried away writing about Voldemort, MAYBE knowing about Grindelwald’s Horcrux that I hadn’t finished my article completely.
What if we are searching too far for an explanation? Why do I say this? We shouldn’t forget that this sentence was written before “Half-Blood Prince” and we did at that time know absolutely nothing about Horcruxes!
Having that in mind, the mentioned phrase would all of a sudden make sense! We know from the talk Dumbledore had with Harry (remember the destroyed DIARY in CoS?), that AD suspected LV of having made a Horcux. So when Dumbledore says to LV: We both know that there area other ways of destroying a man, Tom” he could have had that in mind.
Remember what Voldemort says in GoF to his Eater? I quote: Aaah…pain beyond pain, my friends; nothing could have prepared me for it. I was ripped from my body, I was less than spirit, less than the meanest ghost…but still, I was alive….ect.
But I admit your explanation of the said sentence is also very logical. DEMENTOR’s yes, and so far Voldemort is left with only one piece of soul. TWO are already destroyed, THE Diary and the THE Ring.
It would almost seem that having your soul sucked out is not as bad as the description given by Voldemort. I mean, who would want to live who knows where, not being able to move, eat, all alone without anybody for company? Or I am being to dramatic?
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on November 19, 2006 08:12 AM
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