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by David Haber
These are some of the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Dumbledore is not really , or at least Snape Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, and that everything that happened that night was planned well in advance by Dumbledore himself.
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What if DD really did , and everything, But, what if DD's wand was a horcrux? I mean it doesnt mention his wand after he s, does it? What if his wand was destroyed because it had to bring DD back? That would support most of the things on this website right? It sounds logical enough for me.
Posted by Matt King from Sugar City ID on December 10, 2006 4:43 PM
A horcrux doesn't get desrtoyed in the course of it fullfilling its function..
I think that DD wand be seen again in book 7.
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on December 12, 2006 06:56 AM
well you know all that, there two other thing you need to look at. 1- the time tuner is a great source if you remember in POA hermione used the time turner to save buck beak and sirius black so it could be used to save him as well 2- in HBP you find out why voldemort keeps coming back so maybe he used that to come back to life.
Posted by Robretta Kassahn on December 19, 2006 09:17 AM
Wow this really is convincing and I belive you. You have pointed this out but most convincing is the fact that Snape could have thought Expelliarmus but says Avada Kedavra. And if its possible, what if someone was in front of Dumbledore, in an invisibility cloak and blocked Avada Kedavra for him? Then shouted Expelliarmus and sent Dumbledore flying off the tower. Then Snape might be a eater...
Posted by Sky from atlanta,georgia on December 20, 2006 09:19 AM
There's only one problem with your theory, Sky. It is not possible to block the Avada Kedavra with a counter-curse, and if you just mean that someone let it hit themselves instead of Dumbledore, they would be instantaneously and not have time to yell (or think) Expelliarmus.
Posted by Matt from Memphis Tennessee on December 20, 2006 10:59 AM
Didn't some one suggest something about what might happen if the "avada" curse passed through an invisible ghost?
We know from Nearly Headless Nick that the Bloody Baron liked to "float" around
the astronomy tower, and I think I remember reading that that was the highest tower, which is, I believe, how the tower that Harry and DD retured to was described.
It worked with the Basalisk because it work as a sort of filter, since the ghosts are translucent.
I doubt that it would work for a spell however.
Otherwise, ghosts would have been "screening" DD and other dignataries at all times.
At least thats the way it seems to be to me...
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on December 20, 2006 1:01 PM
first, i like to congratulate dave on this brilliant site, i felt so happy to believe that dumbledore is still alive, nice theories ppls.
i have one: in CoS, ron tries to curse malfoy with a slug-vomiting curse. the curse is described as 'a jet of green light' does that ring a bell?
everyone is saying that snape casted a non-verbal spell even though he said avada kedavra. wad if this spell is the slug-vomiting one? wad do u guys think?
lol imagine dumbledore changing in a phoenix (as everyone says so) while vomiting slugs along the way...
Posted by Melissa from Australia on December 22, 2006 12:10 AM
I accept the possibility that the Dumbledore who d was not Albus but Aberforth. Although it sounds interesting to hear these grand and complex theories about what might have happened to Albus, he himself is known to offer simple theories for complex mysteries. Lily's love acting as Harry's shield etc. So a simple solution to this mystery is that Aberforth was the one who accompanied Harry to the astronomy tower.
1. Despite being very weak, Harry suddenly found Dumbledore to have regained his strength at the sight of the Dark mark seen from Hogshead. Harry dismisses this newly agile Dumbledore on the broomstick as one intent on saving Hogwarts. Aberforth lived in Hogshead and could have somehow replaced Albus who was almost unconscious and then accompanied Harry to the astronomy tower.
2. I read somewhere in this site about the significance of Fawkies lamenting for a long while. If it was indeed healing someone, it could be Albus who was ill because of drinking that potion.
3. It was Albus who set Aberforth's body on fire at the Funeral and created a tomb. And Harry noticing Fawkies flying off in the sky was Albus (invisible) leaving with Phoenix.
4. Harry might not have been unbound at the top of the Astronomy tower unless the caster was indeed . So Snape and Dumbledore faking the incident may not be possible.
5. Albus sounded skeptical about a living creature which can think on its own being made into an Horcrux. So Fawkies being his Horcrux is not very convincing. In anycase there is no reason to believe that Albus wanted to avoid .
An alternate theory which contradicts some of the points above:
1. Aberforth who accompanied Harry was not human at all! So Snape did not actually him.
2. Harry was bound not by 'Albus' Dumbledore but by Snape who was chasing Draco up the astronomy tower. And he subsequently freed him when it was safe enough to do so.
Posted by Balaji from Los Angeles, CA on December 22, 2006 5:03 PM
I doubt... Dumbledore , not? I really don't know what to think, Rowling said that Dumbledore is , and the clues don't go that way. Snape bad or not? I think he isn't. But I think DD is , but he'll return in book7! The new title is released.. Harry potter and the ly hallows, means DD can come back. I think DD has made horcruxes like marten did..And that snape is good.. He did this so he could have the time to search for the other horcruxes, so Voldemort thinks he's ...
Posted by Abderrahim from Rotterdam, The Netherlands on December 23, 2006 09:44 AM
I think that dumbledore used to be or is evil. I think that he trusts snape so much because hes the only one that knows about it. Also i think that dumbledore has horcruxes. If he does one is obviously fawkes because he can live on and on and on if he just hides somewhere. Thats probably why dumbledore keeps him quite close. And why fawkes left hogwarts. This is how in my opinion dumbledore isnt . Also snape is probably stil loyal to dumbledore and ed him knowing that he had a horcrux.
The thing i dont understand is why there was a glint of triumph in his eyes when voldy came back to power?
Posted by Jack on December 23, 2006 3:22 PM
I don't think Dumbledore is evil. He can't be evil. It's not possible to think he's evil with all the wise and kind things that he says. Why would he tell Harry about the horcruxes if he was evil? I truly don't believe Dumbledore is evil.
What do you think about this: "Harry walked alongside him, feeling the aches and pains in his face and his legs where the various hexes of the last half hour had hit him, though in an oddly detached way, as though somebody near him was suffering them. What was realy and inescapable was the awful pressing feeling in his chest..." This happens when Harry and Hagrid are walking towards Dumbledore's body. The really interesting thing is that Harry feels a lot of pain in his chest, which is where Dumbledore was hit with the Avada Kedavra curse. Harry felt like someone near him was suffering these pains too. Could he have somehow been having a connection with Dumbledore?
Posted by Dumbledore's Fan on December 23, 2006 11:08 PM
I really don't think Dumbledore made horcruxes, or is evil. We don't know if Snape is evil or not, but why does Dumbledore trust Snape so much? There has to be a good reason behind it all, but I still don't think the reason is because Dumbledore is evil and Snape's the only one who knows about it. If Dumbledore did have horcruxes, Snape would've been , because he made an unbreakable vow, and if not all Dumbledore's horcruxes were destroyed, then Dumbledore wouldn't have been able to get ed, therefore Snape would be , but we saw Snape escape, so he's not , unless of course (Albus) Dumbledore was really Aberforth, and Aberforth was ed, but again, I don't think Dumbledore would let his brother to save his life, unless he was trapped by Snape because Snape didn't want to him, and he didn't have a choice of not letting Aberforth for him, because Aberforth wasn't trapped, and was free, and wanted to for his beloved brother. It would be possible for Snape to make the unbreakable vow, and Aberforth without because Voldemort told Draco to Dumbledore (most likely), he didn't specifically say Albus Dumbledore. If Dumbledore did have a horcrux, I agree, it would most likely be Fawkes; I still think this is unlikely, because would a guy who says " is but the next greatest adventure," create a horcrux that live on forever, and make him immortal? This sounds like something Voldemort would do. I wonder why Voldemort didn't do that. Maybe he did. Maybe Voldemort put part of his soul in a phoenix, making him immortal. But if he did that, then why would he protect the rest of the horcruxes so well? Maybe to fool people into thinking that all his horcruxes can be destroyed. But if a phoenix was a horcrux, I wonder if when the phoenix burns up, the horcrux would be destroyed, but the phoenix would be reborn? It's all very confusing. We'll just have to wait for the seventh book to come out. My point is, Dumbledore is not evil, and he probably doesn't have any horcruxes.
This is also a clue about Dumbledore being alive (I know J.K. Rowling said he's , but maybe he is , but his soul is alive in Peter's body):
"Dumbledore's eyes were closed; but for the strange angle of his arms and legs, he might have been sleeping."
So maybe Dumbledore was only sleeping, but then why would J.K. Rowling tell us that he's ? My friend says: Maybe because his body was so powerful, it took him a while to , but Fawkes might've healed his body before he d, Peter's soul must have been (this goes back to the theory about Peter and Dumbledore switching bos). Even if they didn't do the switching thing with the bos, Dumbledore could've really been asleep and not , but then why would J.K. Rowling say he's ?
Posted by Dumbledore's Fan on December 24, 2006 07:50 AM
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