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Why did Dumbledore have James' cloak?

by David Haber

On a new post on her official web site, J.K. Rowling admitted she made a mistake in New York when she was asked, what question have you never been asked that you ought to have been asked? She now says the question should have been, Why did Dumbledore have James' invisibility cloak at the time of James' death, given that Dumbledore could make himself invisible without a cloak?

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I still believe that James's cloak was nothing other than a simple Invisiblity Cloak.

That prophecy does raise alot of eyebrows to be honest. As you say, Joanne has a talent for details, she could probably (and has probably) twist that prophecy around so many times that it might aswell be Dennis Creevey who finishes Riddle (although he would be like... 14 at that time, which would be odd, but hey, Riddle managed to when he was around 14, why wouldn't Dennis Creevey)

Posted by Rane from Sweden on December 24, 2006 3:23 PM

I think Snape was present when Harry's parents d and hidden under James' Invisibility cloak, and came afterwards to Dumbledore. Its crucial to the story, as it is linked to the fact, that Snape is innocent.

Posted by Doris from Vienna, Austria on December 24, 2006 3:38 PM

i dont think dumbledore would give the invisibility cloak to harry if had even the slightest hint that it might be a horcrux. since dumbledore didnt even tell harry about the prophecy until he was 15, he didnt think he could handle it, i really doubt that he would give something super important to his survival when he was 11.

Posted by Anonymous on December 24, 2006 4:16 PM

I think that cloak is only a normal invisibility cloak. But James probably discovered something hidden inside it, just like the way Godric Gryffindor hid his sword inside the Sorting Hat. However, he couldn't take whatever hidden in there out neither know what that was, so he gave the sword to Dumbledore for further exploration.

Posted by mad_agasca on December 25, 2006 06:41 AM

Wow, so many great ideas! I've got to say that I love the Snape/Lily deal, it sounds so Romeo/Juliet. I've got two things to say.

1. Somebody mentioned that James was Crookshanks. Crookshanks is half Kneezle, as Rowling has already said.

2. Nobody's mentioned this yet: In the movie AND the book, Voldy says something along the following lines 'Come over to my side, and I can Bring your parants back. You'll have a family again.' In the extras on the movie, Jo says that she talks to the producer alot and he's become very good at guessing the plot. She also said that she makes sure that important clues are included in the movie.

So, why did Voldy say that he could bring back Harry's parents? Was it a mean trick, a red herring or a CLUE? What do you think? Not sure how it fits in with the cloak deal, though.

Posted by Diana from Vancouver, BC on December 25, 2006 10:33 AM

in the sixth book slughorn tells harry making horcrux is the most evil magic that was ever made by wizard. ok, do you think that james made a horcrux?! james making the worst magic that ever existed? thats really illogical.

Posted by lena on December 26, 2006 10:14 AM

Rowling says Dumbledore is . Therefore, he has no horcrux. Voldemort ed Harry's parents, and they appeared in the mirror and during the duel in Goblet. Therefore, neither of them has a horcrux.

Lily tried to help Snape in the past, but Snape insisted he didn't need her help - rudely - so Lily stopped helping him. Snape, if he ever liked/loved Lily, blew any chance with her then.

Foreshadowing is used quite often by Rowling. Harry was saved in Prisoner by a patronus - that turned out to be set by Harry himself. So......

What if it's Harry who is under the cloak that night, using a time turner to go back and try to save his parents?

Also, I think that Harry eventually want to get into the room in the Ministry that contains the archway Sirius fell through. He may also want to get into some of the other rooms there. As such, I think he may 'accept' Scrimgouer's offer of becoming the poster boy for the Ministry in return for some kind of post, and then use the cloak to sneak down into the areas of the Ministry he wants to go to - just like he used the cloak to get into areas of Hogwarts he wanted to go to.

Posted by Omniscius on December 26, 2006 11:07 AM

After the announcement of the title of Book 7, I have been going stark raving mad, reading everything I could get my hands on, including re-reading all the books (I haven't slept much, honestly). But I'm standing here at work, bored, and just read this whole thread, and got to that part wondering if it's Harry under the Invisibility Cloak the night his parents are ed.

Um...wow. I actually gasped when I read that.

What a brilliant idea! I mean so seriously awesome I hate to debunk it. Supposedly, all the time turners were destroyed in the fight in the Ministry in Order, so there may not be anymore (obviously that could just be completely ridiculous...I am sure there are more). Also, James could never have known that the reason to give the cloak to Dumbledore to give to Harry would be that Harry would be there that night, because James gave it to him before he d...

Never mind I don't care how out there that idea is, it's too awesome to give up!

Posted by Laina from Asheville, NC on December 26, 2006 1:43 PM

What if harry (& james) is Slytherin's descendant?

Posted by Bryn Webster from Killingworth, C.T. on December 26, 2006 1:45 PM

"What if it's Harry who is under the cloak that night, using a time turner to go back and try to save his parents?"

Every heard of consequences when dealing with time?

If Harry would use a time turner to go back in time and save his parents, it would be the last thing that happens in the novel. Actually, I can see it happening as I'm writing this.

Harry looked to Hermione, the timeturner in his hand.
"You're really sure about this Harry?" She asked him. Her voice trembled slightly.
"Yeah... Yeah, I am." He could see that tears started forming in Hermione's eyes. She motioned to say something but Harry stopped her. "There's no going back now Hermione, I have to know." And so he started spinning the timeturner, silently counting the number of times it spun around. And just then, he felt that pain that he had gotten used to, the pain that had suddenyl stopped merely hours ago. Once again, he felt a sharp pain in his scar.

Wouldn't that be kinda awsome? Of course, a normal One-Hour timeturner wouldn't be able to do the job, Harry'd have to use a bigger one. I know this is very, very, very unlikely, but still... It would be awsome.

Posted by Rane on December 26, 2006 2:00 PM

I definately think time turners are going to play a role in book 7. I was thinking that DD from the future may come back and be the DD that Snape "s" on the tower. the real present DD would be on the tower invisible (he doesn't need a cloak) and doing some non verbal spells himself.

I do think that it could be possible for Harry to do some time traveling himself in book 7. I never thought that it would be Harry under the cloak witnessing James and Lily's s. I thought that Snape was probably under the cloak. It would be interesting if it were Harry.

Posted by Heather from New Jersey on December 26, 2006 5:01 PM

J.K said that there was no time traveling so it couldn't possibly have been a DD from the future. Also that snape was under the cloak when James and Lily were ed, JK said that wasn't true either. I also have been wondering why Voldy was going to let Lily escape. I thought maybe he loved Lily, Just a theory really! I also thought maybe Snape felt something for her. (looking back on the Harry and Snape fiasco from book 5) Just some theories really!

Posted by Megan from New york on December 26, 2006 7:14 PM

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