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Impossible! Dumbledore said himself that horcruxes were extremely dark magic, and required ing another. I sincreely doubt James Potter or Albus Dumbledore, characters both portrayed as extremely good people have ed someone and used it to their benefit and conducting dark magic.

Posted by Koby from New Jersey on November 12, 2006 09:03 AM

Getting back to the topic and cloak: Perhaps after hearing the prophecy, Dumbledore thought Voldemort's target was the pure-blooded Neville Longbottom. Since it's possible to make things smaller and bigger (Harry considering shrinking his trunk in OOTP after being thrown out by Dursley), maybe Dumbledore borrowed and enlarged the cloak so Hagrid could keep an eye on the Longbottoms.

Posted by Linda from Fort Wayne on November 15, 2006 10:20 AM

What if there is no fantastic reason why AD had the cloak.
What if James left it at AD's house by accident--he forgot it-- and when he needed it for protection it wasn't there and he and lily were ed?
Or.....James and Lily some how knew/found out that the only way to put an end to LV was for them to by his hand and that through and with the help of their son and the invisibility cloak there would be an end to LV once and for all... maybe haha!
I need more clues!

Posted by Jen from Virginia on November 15, 2006 8:13 PM

Linda, I don't think DD thought it was Neville. He was quite sure it was the Potters because he performed the 'immensely complex' Fidelius Charm but we hear nothing of the sort happening with the Longbottoms.

Posted by Aditi from Nagpur, India on November 15, 2006 10:08 PM

I think it would be totally cool if James or Gryffindor came back to life, but I also think that the whole horcrux thing has turned into an awful lot of wishful thinking.

Posted by Andrea from Pleasant View, UT on November 16, 2006 6:41 PM

I think it is likely to be an horcrux, even though you have to commit a to make one. I think it is James's horcrux. Also think of the fact that James is an Animagus, and then think of HP3, PoA. Here Hermoine gets a cat, Crookshanks, and Crookshanks helps Sirius. James is an Animagus, so I think Crookshanks is in fact James! He survived because the cloak is a horcrux! There's only one promblem though. Hermoine said that Crookshanks was for sale for over a century, but none wanted to have it. James wasn't a century old, so thats a little problem.

Posted by Yanick on November 19, 2006 05:11 AM

I agree it is very possible that it could be a horcrux of James. In protecting his family James would have had to most likely ed a eater or two, also James was clever enough to do many difficult and illegal things on his own before, when he was still a child. While making a horcrux would be evil, James would do it if he thought it was for the greater good. Look at the note, it says, "Use it well," very vague, as if to say it had more than one use.
Also in following the hero cycle again Harry must find his father, while he has had mutiple father figures and even seen his father's memory he might actually be able to reunite with his real father. One could say this was foreshadowed in PoA when he thought he saw his fqather across the lake.
Also, in a random after thought, Harry might need his father to defeat Voldemort, it has been said many times Harry's mother did not need to have d.

Posted by Natty from Broken little town on November 19, 2006 09:35 AM

No, I think there are only Voldemort's Horocruxes. It's been stated pretty clearly that they are the most evil, Dark magic and neither Dumbledore or James Potter would have gotten mixed up in that. Not only would you have to someone (even accidently or in the course of his work, as was previously suggested) you would still have to want to tear apart your soul. Dumbledore has said clearly that Voldemort has "underestimated the incomparable value of a soul that is untarnished and whole". James Potter won't be coming back from the to defeat Volemort, I'm sure Harry do it on his own. But it's interesting to think about what James' motivation would have been to leave the cloack with Dumbledore.

Posted by Jeri from Utah on November 19, 2006 3:54 PM

I don't really think you need to want to tear your soul apart, as Dumbledore implies that the soul can only be parted by commiting a , because this is the most horrible thing that can be done. I did some back-checking, and it could be Dumbledore's horcrux as well. I have found some reasons for this. 1: Dumbledore always was very hard about using the term: "horcrux" in a lesson, this could be so that students would find out what they are and there would come someone like Voldemert, but it could also be that he didn't wanted that anyone would find out he has one. This does match the "Dumbledore is not " section, because he isn't if he has an horcrux. I even found out wich wizard he ed to make one, it is the wizard Grinwald. This name was on the first wizard card he ever had, in the train to Hogwarts. At first i thought it wasn't important, because it was about the name Nicolas Flamel, but when I've read al six the books -I couldn't believe Dumbledore was so i have tried to get an explanation- I've read al the books again. On this card it sais that Dumbledore is famous becouse of his battle with the mighty wizard Grinwald! So I later figured out that he could have cilled him and have his own horcrux. Well, back to my story. I was telling about the reasons that the cloak would be Dumbledore's horcrux. 2: When Dumbledore burns, in HP6 Harry thinks: "White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished". We know that Voldemort has lead a hlaf-life from the moment has tried to Harry, less then even the weakest ghost. So maybe that happened to Dumbledore as well. And the phoenix shape has a lot to do with Dumbledore, as Dumbledore's bond with phoenix is very thight. Well thats about it!

PS: Many think Harry is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor, and i think he is too, why noone has ever noticed the fact that Harry's parent lived in Godric's Hollow. Anyone here nows the first name of Gryffindor is Godric and his parents livid somewhere with that name in it... I think its a cleu that harry really is the descendant of Gryffindor!

Posted by Yanick on November 20, 2006 09:36 AM

I forgot to say, as a answer to the question of Jeri, well, it wasn't really a question, but i think James's motivation to leave the cloak with Dumbledore was that he really could make a horcrux.

Posted by Yanick on November 20, 2006 09:44 AM

I don't think ing in self-defence would tear the soul. I don't think just witnessing some one would do it either, though...

Slughorn specifically tells young Riddle that you have to commit MURDER. Not justifable homocide, not self-defense,not manslaughter... MURDER.

The intentional and premeditated taking of anothers life..

Perhaps, Dumbledoor knows the weight of guilt from commiting such an act. Maybe that's what he's talking about when he says there are worse things than .

The guilt of living with the consequences of a moments decision... I seriously doubt DD would hold on to ANY ONE's horcrux....

According to Slughorn, DD is adamant that the subject should not even be discussed..

Just a thought.

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on November 20, 2006 12:12 PM

Sorry, maybe I missed something, but why do some of you think that James made a Horcrux with the Invisibilty Cloak?

Aside from that, I cannot imagine that James Potter did make such a evil thing! In OotP (after Harry had witnessed the scene in the Pensieve) Chapter twenty nine CAREERS ADVICE Remus Lupin says to Harry:...and James - whatever else he may have appeared to you, Harry - always hated the Dark Arts!

Why would he do that, and come to think of it, what about Lily? Wouldn't that mean he only thought about himself? In my opinion it only makes sense IF he KNEW what would happen, so he could come back and help Harry. Otherwise he would be as evil as Voldemort. We shouln't forget that JO said James is !

I also support the idea that the Invisibilty Cloak could be a TOKEN to enter Godric's Hollow.

Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on November 20, 2006 12:57 PM

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