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Who is R.A.B. and where is Slytherin's Locket?
by David Haber
In the dramatic climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry recover a locket from Voldemort's secret cave. Only after Dumbledore "dies" does Harry open the locket and find the note from R.A.B. But who is R.A.B., and where is the locket now?
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Orlando from England,
A verry interesting comment, it might well be what you say, it has a certain logic to it, or it might be some kind of "Dementor Escence" which can bring forth your worst memories, or non of the above.
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on April 19, 2007 5:19 PM
well if Mundungus did steal it he could have sold it to the bartender of the Hog's Head, because before Harry caught Mundungus with Sirius' possesions (Harry's possesions now) Mandungus was talking to the barman, possibly selling him some of the stuff.
Posted by Francisco from Tehema,CA on April 19, 2007 8:06 PM
Surely we know that it's Regulus Black because of the book translations? I think that it is the key evidence.
Posted by Becca from England on April 22, 2007 08:23 AM
I know I have read somewhere in HBP that Dumbeldore says in parentheses that a Eater would to have the ability to look into Voldemort's mind the way Harry did in Ootp. We also know that Voldemort treats his Eaters like servants, so I am sure that RAB was extremely powerful or lucky to learn of the Horcruxes.
Here is a theory on the drink. Who would Dumbeldore for and ask to be ed if indeed he is living out his own worst fears as he drinks the potion? Just about any student, so I believe this may be a red herring.
Here is a theory on Snape. Snape is Dumbeldore and vice versa for this year using the polyjuice potion. Thats why they were arguing early in HBP, and thats why Snape dosen't allow Harry to even mutter an unforgivable curse in the end. Also that is why "dumbledore moved like a young man" when he swam to the island where they found the heavy locket. Dumbeldore for the whole year now uses his wand more than ever because his hand was burned right, so how does he move with such agility? I also beleive this polyjuice switch occurred after the unbreakable vow was made.
I also think my Snape Dumbeldore theory presents more questions in a new light, Dumbeldore says to harry at the cave that harry's blood is more valuable, why? So now think about how Dumbledore was said to have a "gleam of triumph" in his eyes when told that Voldemort had restored his body using Harry's blood, at the end of Goblet of Fire (Ch. 36). Rowling has confirmed that this is "still enormously significant".
Posted by Yahya from CT on April 22, 2007 1:46 PM
I think RAB is Sirius' younger brother. Remember how it was confirmed that Harry owned the house on Grimmauld Place? There was a spell such that when the last of the Black line had d, it would go to the Narcissa's family (cousins). I doubt Sirius' could have overridden this unless Regulus wasn't actually (i.e. the Black line hadn't ended)
Posted by Anisa from CH, NC on April 23, 2007 02:01 AM
Anisa from CH,
I don't quite follow your reasoning, the "Tradition" was that the house passed ALWAYS to the eldest MALE in direct line, this means that if sirius had had a son it would have been his, even if Regulus was alive. As Sirius had no children the house (and Kreacher) should have gone to to the eldest remaining on His line of the family (Regulus), but as he is presumed , that is why Dumbledore wanted to be sure that Sirius's "Will" would be respected.
If Sirius had not "Willed" the house to Harry then it shoud have passed to another branch of the family, and be owned by the eldest surviving MALE of that line, of which we presume there was none, because Dumbledore was worried that the house could go to Ballatrix.
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on April 23, 2007 2:34 PM
I've been thinking more about the locket and where it might be. I don't think Aberforth has it...it would make it too easy for Harry to find. I initially thought that the locket would be the first horcrux Harry would go after...but the more I think, the more I think it might be the last or near the end...it would make a better plot!
And would RAB really have left such an important item lying around 12 Grimmauld Place for anyone to find? Would Kreacher not have known its significance? Especially if, as has been suggested, he was the one who accompanied RAB to the cave and drank the poison (hence his addled mind).
I don't think Snape and Dumbledore have swapped with eachother using polyjuice potion...but it is interesting that at times of crisis, when Harry comes out of the Triwizard Maze at the end of GoF and also when Dumbledore is swimming to the cave he seems to have the strength of a younger man.
Posted by Joe from England on April 23, 2007 3:38 PM
Anisa - Albus only speculated that there may have been such an enchantment on the house to keep it in the family. I believe it was confirmed that no such spell existed when the house passed into Harry's possession.
Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on April 23, 2007 4:06 PM
I had a thought: how is Stubby Boardman translated in foreign languages (in english, the initials S B match those of Sirius Black, I wonder if in dutch, for instance, they would be S Z)? If the translation go the same way as Black, what if Stubby Boardman had a brother called R A Bordman (or if he married R A Smith)?
Posted by herve from strasbourg on April 24, 2007 12:28 AM
Do we know exactly why Regulus left the eaters? could it be because he was a legimens and found the location of voldemorts horcruxes?
Posted by Rebekah from Birmingham on April 24, 2007 1:27 PM
I believe that R.A.B. may not be Regulus Black, after all. If you think back to OotP, when Harry is questioning Sirius about his family at the Black family tapestry, Sirius comments that Regulus was probably never important enough to be ed by the Dark Lord personally. If you also think back to HBP, when Snape is talking to Belllatrix after her questioning, he states "Dumbledore has been a great wizard-oh yes the Dark Lord acknowledges this."
Now, if you dont know where I'm heading with this, keep reading. When Snape said this, he is impying that the Dark Lord notices power, and gives credit where it is due. If we are to belive this, we have to think, Dumbledore is pretty much the only wizard who has ever found out about the Horcruxes, which are very top secret., so if Regulus did indeed find the pendant Horcrux, remove it, and replace it with a decoy, he must be a greater wizard than Dumbledore, who could not do it alone. If he WAS that great a wizard, Voldemort would have ed him personally. If he was not a great enough wizard to be ed by Voldemort personally, there is no way he could have been clever and strong enough to remove and replace a Horcrux, unless he has hidden powers that the Dark Lord did not know of, which we can rule out, because
1.He was presumed ed by a Eater, Voldemorts UNDERLING.
2.Only Snape and Dumbledore are good enough at Occlumency to defer the Dark Lord.
3. If he WAS a good enough Occlumens to stop the Dark Lord from entering his mind, it means he WAS on the level of Dumbledore, or at least Snape, which means he WAS good enough to remove the Horcrux, and also that he WAS good enough to be ed by Voldemort in person, who would have found out eventually, because even Snape cant keep a secret from the Dark Lord.
The reason I say this is because I believe that Snape is not innocent, a mere speculation, but for those who agree with me, I hope you can see ths from my point of view.
Here are my beliefs
1. Regulus Black is not R.A.B. for said reasons.
2. The person I personally believe is R.A.B. is THE BLOODY BARON
I belive this for several reasons.
1. In the said R.A.B. note, it states "To The Dark lord, I be long before you read this."
Think about it. How is this information of use at all? What, ae they going to look up his history? It is useless information, UNLESS you can contact the person, or part of his conscience, and the only way to do this is to talk to his ghost.
2.The Bloody Baron's name.
a. Bloody is not his first name, just like Nearly headless Nick is actually called Sir Nicolas DeMimsy Porpington.
b.His last name starts with "B".
c.The last initial in the said letter is "B" (R.A."B.")
3. He is Slytherin ghost.
a.This is not omportant as far as I can see, but in book 7, this may become of relevance, or even great significance.
4. I believe that he MUST have been a great wizard to
a. make his own ghost.
b. beomce a Slytherin ghost
c. Be fearedby all the other house ghosts of HOGWARTS, the most pretigious magic school ever.
and if he was that great, he MUST have been very magically powerful.
Maybe even powerful enough to, say, remove and replace a horcrux?
Posted by Dante on April 26, 2007 04:50 AM
Earlier on this topic (page 32 to be exact) I posted some of my views on R.A.B and what I thought happened to Regulus. Sirius says "I doubt that Voldemort ed him personally", but this is Sirius' OPINION. I do believe that Regulus was ed by Voldemort personally, that Voldemort knew Regulus had found out about the horcruxes and that's why. Since Kreature had gone with him and took the real horcrux back to 12 Grimmauld Place, the horcrux was not on Regulus when Voldemort ed him, and, because Voldemort's oversights are often his downfall, he presumed that Regulus had not yet found where the horcrux was. I believe that Voldemort thought Regulus would not have had the presence of mind to bring someone along with him on his attempt if he had found where it was. Then everyone was led to believe a Eater ed Regulus is because Voldemort would have found it easier than to have everyone wonder why Voldemort would have wasted so much of his precious energy on a weak underling like Regulus Black and thus arouse suspicion. A ruse, if you . (Shrug) It's a possibility.
Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on April 26, 2007 08:05 AM
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