Who is R.A.B. and where is Slytherin's Locket?
by David Haber
In the dramatic climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry recover a locket from Voldemort's secret cave. Only after Dumbledore "dies" does Harry open the locket and find the note from R.A.B. But who is R.A.B., and where is the locket now?
> Read the full articlePages: << < 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 ... > >> Reader Comments: (Page 37) Monkeeshrines: thanks much. If Jo didn't say that it was Regulus, then it can be any member of the Black family.
Someone came with the idea it could be a married woman. That would explain why Hermione couldn't find a RA Black: if she had checked for a Narcissa Malfoy, she wouldn't have found her, but a Narcissa Black.
Is there a women with a R initial on the Black tree?
Or would it be that Regulus middle name was ignored - or mismatched - when he registered at Hogwarts? I can't even imagine that Hermione got wrong. Posted by herve from strasbourg on March 19, 2007 09:54 AM
Patty--
Key words are very important to me; that is why I named the three people we are ABSOLUTELY SURE know about the Horcruxes by name; obviously RAB knows about the Horcruxes too. Anyone else is simply fan speculation and not solid fact taken from the book.
As far as the similarities go between Snive- Snape, and Regulus, I think you glided over a very important one.
"both being in Slytherin, and both becoming Eaters."
All Eaters come from Slytherin; Ron tells us so in the SS movie.
"There's not a witch or wizard who went bad that wasn't in Slytherin."
So it isn't saying much that "both were Eaters and both came from Slytherin", because EVERY Eater comes from Slytherin.
The fact that I think you glossed over is that both switched from Eater to Order of the Phoenix, which no one else had the guts to do.
Regulus d because he switched sides. Posted by Ashley from Missouri on March 19, 2007 1:40 PM
I don't know that Regulus,or RAB if different, was ever in the Order of the Phoenix.
When I said they were both in Slytherin, I meant both at the same approximate time, with the opportunity to get to know each other.
Assuming all Eaters were from Slytherin is a generalization, similar to saying all women are bad drivers. What about Eaters from other countries? And Wormtail? A majority of Slytherins could not have turned out badly or Dumbledore would have failed as a Headmaster. Posted by Patty from Quincy MA on March 19, 2007 4:16 PM
where is the locket now? I think a telling paragraph is p230 of HBP where JK describes some sort of dealing between Mundungus and Aberforth (hog's head barman argument accepted). As soon as Aberforth notices harry he "drew his cloak more tightly around his neck then walked away".. my supposition being - since it is proved a paragraph or so later that Mundungus has a suitcase of loot from Sirius' house with him - that Aberforth understood the grave importance of the locket and retrieved it for the Order. And, given the above quote, one could summise that Aberforth was wearing it round his neck at that very moment!
So, in short, my theory is that Aberforth has the locket and that in book 7 harry help him destroy it.. Posted by Ted on March 19, 2007 6:36 PM
Who knew the locket was a Horcrux? As Ashley has said this knowledge may be limited to very few people.
Is there evidence that Aberforth knew the locket could be a Horcrux?
If the locket is the reason he clutched his cloak, he may wear it without knowing what it contains. He may have acted shifty because he knew he was buying stolen goods and didn't want that to get back to brother Albus when he saw Hogwarts students approaching. Albus may not have let on about Horcruxes, he may have put the word out that he was collecting antiques, particularly from the founders. Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on March 20, 2007 07:40 AM
Patty--
Wormtail came from Gryffindor right? Im not sure how he ever got into Gryffindor in the first place. Wormtail was a coward, and he only switched sides because Voldemort scared him.
I meant all Eaters that were there by choice and not force were in Slytherin. All the Eaters that actually wanted to be there.
Have any of you noticed that Voldemort doesn't have Eaters from, say, America?! All his followers tend to be from England or around there.
I personally think that if Eaters didn't come from Slytherin they came from Durmstrang, under Karkaroffs Headmaster-ship.
And some people from Slytherin (ie Crabbe, Goyle, and Malfoy) think that Dumbledore "was the worst thing that ever happened to Hogwarts", so do you seriously think that people like that are going to listen to anything Dumbledore says? No, they are going to follow what their parents say is right; being a Eater. Posted by Ashley from Missouri on March 20, 2007 07:40 AM
Ashley,
They might have chosen to become a Eater, but there was no choice once they were in. Look at Regulus.
Of course Draco et al chafed under Dumbledore -- he saw right through them.
I think all Eaters are cowards who need to hide behind their master or a mask, and blame the Imperius curse when cornered. They are only in it for what they can get for themselves, or for what Voldemort may have promised them. Whether or not he was going to deliver on any promises, I have my doubts. Wormtail fits right in. Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on March 20, 2007 5:31 PM
Patty - of course there isn't evidence that Aberforth knew it was a horcrux, but there certainly isn't evidence to the contrary either.. We barely know a thing about Aberforth and so the theory is entirely plausable. Admittedly, you can pick holes but that's the nature of speculation. But don't you think that plot-wise, it doesn't seem important enough to mention at all if Aberforth is merely dabbling in a spot of black-market trading? Posted by Ted on March 20, 2007 7:48 PM
Ted,
Right, it is siginificant to the plot that Harry has seen the shady deal and put 2+2 together at a later date. He has a difficult task in finding four horcruxes which may or may not be what Dumbledore listed. This scene sets up a situation where the locket is right under his nose and easily retrievable once the significance is related to Aberforth. If he was aware of the significance of the locket, why didn't he pass it along to Albus?
I wonder if even Albus knew which Slytherin relic Voldemort chose to make into a horcrux until the potion in the cave revealed what was hidden. Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on March 22, 2007 09:03 AM
I think it was important when Dumbledore said, "I have been searching for places that were significant to Voldemort's past..." or whatever in HBP. I think this gives a clue as to where the Horcrux could be.
I'm thinking of all the places that have marked important in Voldemort's history.
The cave where he terrorized the children with his magic.
Marvolo's house where he found his uncle and the last relic of the Gaunts (which incidentally he hid in the shack where he found the ring itself)
What other places could the Horcruxes be hiding? Posted by Ashley from Missouri on March 22, 2007 1:58 PM
Where else could a horcrux be hiding?
Perhaps the lone little island of Azkaban high above the English Isle where Mundungus resides in comparitive safety with our busdriver to play Whist with. Must be pleasant since Voldemort has lured the Dementors away again! The victory was getting the help of the Dementors.
Godric's Hollow and the sewer opening cracked into the street by whatever Peter Pettigrew was part of on November First. Victory over the Potter household. Little time between their and the defeat of Riddle by little Harry and his mother's protection. Blamed was Sirius AND then Wormtail.
Madame Hepzibah Smith's home! Poor blamed house-elf
Somewhere on the grounds of HOGWARTS where he brought about the of Moaning Myrtle and the blaming of Hagrid for the crime.
You are forgetting the need for a patsy to take the blame. Not so much with the first few s but certainly later. Posted by ken from la ca usa ea(rth) on March 23, 2007 1:16 PM
Has everyone forgotten the shop Borgin and Burkes? A horcrux could be in there too. Posted by smk on March 24, 2007 12:58 AM
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