Who is R.A.B. and where is Slytherin's Locket?
by David Haber
In the dramatic climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry recover a locket from Voldemort's secret cave. Only after Dumbledore "dies" does Harry open the locket and find the note from R.A.B. But who is R.A.B., and where is the locket now?
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It seems the consensus is that R.A.B. is Regulus Black. If so, then J.K handed this one to us. Like most of you, after reading the note within the locket, I immediately thought of Regulus. There wasn't even another character sharing the same initials that we could speculate on.
Although, I can't help but feel there is some twist to this storyline yet to be revealed in D.H. If R.A.B. is , then does it really matter to the story that he was Regulus? It is true that it would be important for Harry as far as locating the real locket. But I'm thinking that R.A.B. be a major factor in Harry's quest for the horcruxes. I'm also thinking that people don't stay [Pettigrew, B. Crouch Jr., Buckbeak] in Harry's world and nothing is as it appears.
And Regulus appears to be .
Posted by Mikey from New Jersey on February 11, 2007 07:07 AM
i think RAB is lily and then maybe the locket's power is that it might have made petunia a muggle/squib from a witch..
i think harry find her wearing the locket when he goes back to the dursleys' in DH...
hope dumbledore comes back though...
Posted by sumeetha from dubai on February 12, 2007 08:17 AM
I think R.A.B is Regulus Black
I think the locket was at 12 Grimmauld Place, but I now believe it has been taken from there by Mundungus and given to Aberforth (in Hogsmeade) on orders from The Order.
Aberforth obviously has a role to play in The ly Hallows because if he didn't he wouldn't be making an appearance in the new film this July.
Posted by Orlando from England on February 12, 2007 1:54 PM
Regulas is most definetly R.A.B. If you reador listen closely to order of the pheonix In the chapter the ancient and most ancient house of black you hear "my uncle alphard left me a decent bit of gold he's been my profiteur thatss probably why" then he stops. I think he was going to go on to say that regulas was named after him. This may have been mentioned it seems quite obvious but incase it hasnt i thought i'd mention it
Posted by glorfindel from aberdeen uk on February 12, 2007 8:54 PM
I did mention it on one of the threads a while back, Glorfindel and I'm delighted to see that someone else spotted the passage and came to the same conclusion. Inevitable that we'll have a bit of cross thinking here.
Orlando, that's a great point about Aberforth being important. He's just the sort of character they'd have cut if JKR hadn't said they were going to need him. I think Mundungus having taken the locket from Grimmauld Place is very likely. Otherwise the scene where Harry catches him with the Black family silver goes nowhere. Why on the instructions of the Order though? If Dumbledore already knew about the locket at Grimmauld Place, why go after the fake one?
Posted by Elizabeth from Australia on February 13, 2007 04:17 AM
Glorfindel: Hmmm.....as much I support the idea that Regulus is R.A.B - I don't think Sirius, when talking about his uncle Alphard, wanted to tell Harry that his brother's second name was Alphard too!
Simply because he mentions Regulus "after" he had made that statement about his inheritance! I believe he wanted only to explain Harry the reason why Alphard was also wiped out of the "Black family tree".
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on February 13, 2007 04:47 AM
wait is that a rhetorical question? Did Dumbledore even know which Horcrux was hidden where he and Harry had gone? We know that he may have had, as some members of the Order had put it, a "shrewd" idea, and that Dumbledore's Shrewd Ideas normally turn out pretty accurate, but when it comes right down to it, how did Dumbledore know which Horcrux was hidden? There were six of them at one time (there is only four now: making that blatantly obvious) so any one of the four could have been hidden in that cave. I think all Dumbledore knew was that there was a Horcrux there, not which Horcrux it was.
Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 13, 2007 06:42 AM
this is about where the locket is...
lets start with the scene when Harry sees Mundungus talking to the skinny barman (that most presume to be Aberforth). In the same scene, few minutes later Katie bell comes out with a locket that she touches and ends up in the hospital. We know that Malfoy had intended that locket for Dumbledore, and it was Madam Rosmerta who under the imperius curse handed it to Katie bell. Malfoy approves that he sent this locket when he corners Dumbledore.
But what if the locket that Malfoy intended for ing Dumbledore was the slytherin locket (the horcrux) itself! we know that Mundungus appeared few moments before katie got the locket. we know that mundungus was stealing Sirius stuff. so if assuming that the heavy locket at grimauld place was the horcrux locket that R.A.B (which is Regulus. now that its confirmed) tried to destroy, we can say that Mundungus stole this locket (though he might not know that it was an horcrux). he must have only known that the locket carried a curse. Malfoy had by some means got into contact with mundungus, learnt about a cursed locket..he might have thought it to be a good idea to use it to finish off dummbledore (again Malfoy might not be aware anything about horcruxes). malfoy might have used Rosmerta as a deputy to buy that locket from Mundungus and later she gave it to Katie Bell.
Also in the same chapter it says that there was some greenish liquid on the locket when harry picked it up. this might be the same green liquid of the goblet which Dumbledore drank to obtain a the locket (though later harry found it be fake)
Second when Harry tells Dumbledore about the Katie incident during the lesson, Dumbledore speaks about the slytherin locket that Merope sold to Borgin and Burkes. Dumbledore also states that it's the same lockect they were talking about (ofcourse they were talking about the locket that Katie acquired)
So the Horcrux locket (it must have been destroyed as regulus says he intends to) was first at Grimauld place. then this locket got stolen by Mundungus. on orders from Malfoy Rosmerta bought it and handed to Katie. the locket was taken by professor mcgonagall (i dont remeber it though) and ofcourse would have been handed to Dumbledore since he is the headmaster.
Only one question is left. if the Katie locket was the actual slytherin locket and Dumbledore must have got it, then he should have realized that it was the slytherin locket. then why didnt he tell this to Harry later when he told him about horcruxes and how many of them were destroyed and and how many were yet to destroy?
Posted by reader on February 13, 2007 09:02 AM
reader on February 13, 2007 09:02 AM
While reading your comment I got a bit confused. As far as I know, until today we have no confirmation that Regulus Black is indeed R.A.B.
Also you are talking about a "locket" that Katie Bell touched and ended up in St.Mungos Hospital.While I thought your theory well worked out I have to decline it!
It was a "necklace" Katie touched and not a locket. The same necklace Harry saw in CoS in Borgin and Burkes store - also in HBP when Hermione enters Borgin's store, pretenting to buy the necklace!
I don't believe that Jo would deceive her readers and calling the object necklace - when having in mind "Merope's locket"!
Another important thing...Professor Dumbledore was NOT at Hogwarts when the incident with the cursed necklace happened: That's why Harry told Professor McGonagall the story. It was McGonagall who sent the necklace to Professor Snape to examine it.
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on February 13, 2007 09:59 AM
Reader, I just checked my book. It doesn't say anything about the necklace that katie touched being a locket. In fact, harry recognized it as the opal neckalce he saw in Borgin and Burkes. It does says that it was in a "now sodden brown-paper package on the ground, which had split open to reveal a greenish glitter." not sure if you are on to something, but there is definately a difference between a silver locket and an opal necklace. opals do a hve greenish/mulitcolored shimmer to them.
Also, if Katie had received the Slitherin locket and presumably dumbldore had it in his possession, why in the world would he take Harry to the cave to fetch a fake? Or was this just another part of his plan to fake his own ? anyone?
Posted by Heather from NJ on February 13, 2007 10:27 AM
I read most of the theories and now I'm not sure anymore. First I thought it had to be Regulus, but now it just seems to obvious. But I'm quite sure that Dumbledore can't be ! (maybe just because I don't want him to be )
I can't wait to read the final book! I hope that it is all clear to me after that book.. because I'm very puzzled now!
Posted by Lion Grunenberg from The Hague, The Netherlands on February 13, 2007 11:19 AM
the chapter is called "Silver and opals"
The Opal necklace I presumed was the same necklace at Borgin and Burkes, not the locket. Is it described differently in other languages? (I have the american hardcover)
Posted by tracy on February 13, 2007 11:22 AM
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