Beyond Hogwarts

<Latest Articles
Comments Index
Save Last On

Search Beyond Hogwarts:

Reference Desk:
Beyond Hogwarts FAQ
Wizard to Muggle Currency Converter
Harry Potter Spelling Reference

Who is R.A.B. and where is Slytherin's Locket?

by David Haber

In the dramatic climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry recover a locket from Voldemort's secret cave. Only after Dumbledore "dies" does Harry open the locket and find the note from R.A.B. But who is R.A.B., and where is the locket now?

> Read the full article

Pages:  <<  <  20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 ...  >  >>

Reader Comments: (Page 30)

In the memory from HBP Dummbledore asks why Tom is back in Hogwarts to apply for a job he doesn't want. I suspect it was to hide another horcrux in the castle, and presumably in the room of requirement. I need to re-re-read the chapter where harry hides Snape's potions book, & there be a hint at where another horcrux is located. JKR doesn't put passages in her books for nothing.

Posted by Dave Porter from New Mexico, USA on February 6, 2007 10:35 PM

I wonder if Voldemort would even know the location of the locket after HBP. He never saw the note from RAB, Harry and Dumbledore found it first. If Regulus gave it to Kreacher to keep from Voldemort, he would have instructed him to not reveal its location. Even if he did not specify those instructions, I think Kreacher would be bound by his master's wishes to not give it up. When the locket was taken by Regulus, I am sure he did his best to destroy the Horcrux and release the portion of Voldemort's soul within. The locket would still appear intact, but would no longer be a Horcrux. Then there would be no need to hide the locket any longer other than to let Voldemort continue thinking it was still hidden in the cave. Maybe Regulus knew destroying the Horcrux would unleash more powerful magic than he could withstand and he would in the attempt. Or he knew his attempt to leave the ranks of the Eaters would probably lead to his anyway, which is why the note was worded as it was, but he was determined to do something to make up for following Voldemort in the first place.

Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on February 7, 2007 05:35 AM

That makes so much sense! after all, Regulus wouldnt have told Kreacher he was abandoning the Dark Lord would he? thats a pretty stupid thing to do! so Kreacher would have loyalty to Regulus (he is still on the tapestry on OOTP) not like he does Sirius, who is no longer on the family tree tapestry. OH! and somewhere in HBP Dumbledore says something along the lines of "voldemort has split his soul so many times that he cant feel when one part of it is destroyed" so he wouldnt know that, if Regulus managed to destroy the locket (which i dont think he has), one of his Horcruxes was gone
and good point...did Hagrid not say in Sorcerer's Stone that "theres no place better to hide something, except perhaps Hogwarts"? or something along those lines... anyway, so we know that the Sorcerer's Stone was hidden in Hogwarts, so its a pretty good hiding spot.... =)
but on the whole "JKR doesnt put passages in for nothing": she put that passage in (says me) because Snape is the Half Blood Prince, and had invented Sectumsempra, which Harry had just used on Malfoy in the bathroom. i think. oh well im pretty dumb so dont go directly off what i say

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 7, 2007 1:44 PM

I had forgotten about that quote of Hagrid's, about hiding something at Hogwarts. Besides the Stone, Harry has been safe at Hogwarts for 6 years (so far), although not exactly hidden.
Your comments are well thought out and well written. Please don't think you are dumb. You are not.

Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on February 7, 2007 5:12 PM

oh thank you! and not exactly. lets think...
Sorcerer's stone- almost ed by Voldy
CoS- almost ed by Voldys Horcrux
PoA- almost ed by dementors
GoF- almost ed by Voldy
OotP- almost ed by Voldy and Eaters
HBP- almost ed by eaters

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 8, 2007 1:56 PM

Oh and by the way Patty, i reread your comment from earlier about how Voldy wouldnt know where the locket is, thinking that it was still safe. Kreacher would know, wouldnt he? if he had seen it in 12 Grimmauld Place? Lucius couldve seen flashes of it with Legilimency, then the same from Voldy on Lucius.
and im confused about how "Voldemort is the last living descendant of Salazar Slytherin." well, no he isnt.
Marvolo Gaunt was boasting about being a "pureblood" was he not, in HBP? well, in OotP Padfoot explains that "all pureblood families are interrelated: if you are only going to let your sons and daughters marry purebloods, there isnt much choice." so in theory, since Slytherin was a Pureblood and Marvolo was a pureblood, wouldnt every pureblood be a descendant of Slytherin? Including Harry, on his dad's side? James is a pureblood, we know that much. all the Weasleys are pureblood, wouldnt they be related to Slytherin as well?
and i just realized something. we all know unhealthy amounts of information about harry potter. its kind of weird. but still awesome at the same time..

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 8, 2007 3:57 PM

In HBP Harry sees Mundungus in Hogsmeade Village talking to the bartender of the Hogs Head Inn. When Harry walks up to Mundungus and sees he is selling Sirius's stuff, he gets angry and assaults him. Right before he does this though, the bartender grabs his collar very tightly as if he was trying to hide something from Harry. I think that the bartender, who could be Aberforth Dumbledore, bought the locket off of Mundungus and has it now. I think Aberforth play a big part in Harry Potter and the ly Hollows.

Posted by Barry from Minot, ND on February 9, 2007 03:10 AM

Yes, Kreacher would know where the locket was, but does he know what it contains? Maybe he was just ordered to keep the locket safe unless told otherwise by the Regulus or his heir. Harry was bequeathed everything that Sirius owned, who had in turn inherited everything Regulus owned (big assumption) so now Harry owns the locket in this scenario. If he only knew to ask Kreacher...
And if Lucius knew enough to use Legilimency on Kreacher, maybe he could find out if he wasn't in Azkaban.

And good point about Harry not being completely safe at Hogwarts, I guess I was trying to say that Dumbledore's protection kept him safer within Hogwarts than he would have been on the outside. He would have been safer if he didn't go looking for trouble, but then again, he wouldn't be Harry then would he?

Posted by Patricia Mortimer from Quincy,Massachusetts on February 9, 2007 05:35 AM

I have read all comments so far and have been convinced that R.A.B is Regulus Arcturus Black, not Alphard nor Abraxas.

I also agree that as Voldemort does not take into consideration the powers of other beings besides full grown wizards, he must not have considered a house-elf to be a threat to him, thus not protecting his locket in the cave against them. This makes it a very real possibility that an unknowing Kreacher would assist Regulus Arcturus Black (RAB) in obtaining the locket.

In the note found in the locket RAB states that he be before the Dark Lord finds it, let us remember that the locket hasn�t been found by Voldy yet, so it is a possibility that he is still alive and has, somehow faked his or magically concealed himself.

As many have said before me, JKR does not waste paragraphs on things that have no relevance in the future, so I can deduce that if the Slitherins can speak Parseltongue, there might be other traits, powers or abilities that are inherited through bloodlines, so, if Tonks is a Metamorphmagus, and she is a descendant from the Black lineage, couldn�t it be possible (as it has been mentioned before) that Regalus is also a Metamorphmagus. Or we could also go with the other theory, that he could be an Animagus, as his brother was. This could make him either Mundungus, as some think or Crookshanks, but not both.

We know that Albus Dumbledore�s brother, Aberforth was with the original Order of the Phoenix, so it is a safe assumption that he is one of the good guys and resurface in book 7 to take his brothers place as an important participant in the order, if not the head of it, now that his brother has perished.

I believe that in the book to come, there be several fighting fronts, one of them lead by Hagrid and his brother, other by Dobby and other house-elfs, among others.

The DA re-unite, and there is a possibility, although remote that Draco Malfoy eventually join the battle against Voldy (guided by Snape).

I know this is speculation, but would like your collective input on it, and good reading.

Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on February 9, 2007 1:53 PM

I am quite convinced that RAB is a person, Regulus, and perhaps a house-elf: Kreacher. Dumbledore says: 'One alone could not have done it...' Perhaps Regulus force-feeds Kreacher the potion, and that's why Kreacher is a mad bloodshot-eyed crazy old loon; the potion damaged his brains and magical abilities.

Posted by Joanna Crabtree from St Albans, S/E England on February 10, 2007 05:40 AM

i don't really think that Regulus (RAB) went alone, he probably did take someone or something with him. I don't believe that it was Kreacher who drank the potion. it could have been someone else, or maybe RAB himself. i think kreacher is like an old loon because he's disappointed about letting blood traitors stay in the Noble and most ancient house of Black. kreacher doesn't like seeing the order being in his house. he's been serving the Blacks for so long that he thinks serving some other person especially blood traitors who are fighting against The Dark Lord. I just think he's very disapointed about everything.

Posted by sidra from New York, New York on February 10, 2007 6:49 PM

i think RAB is lily/snape coz whoever RAB was, he/she had to make a potion similar to the potion in the goblet when he/she drank it.

i think its probably lily and she took petunia with her... petunia could be a witch and she could have lost her powers when she drank the potion... i guess voldy didnt want to lily was that she had the chain with her...

i dunno... just my suspicions... i cant wait 4 the book!

Posted by sumeetha from dubai on February 11, 2007 06:50 AM

Pages:  <<  <  20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 ...  >  >>

Latest Discussions | Comments | The Septology | Harry's World | Harry Potter Movies | FAQ is not affiliated with or approved by
Scholastic Books, Bloomsbury, Warner Bros., or J.K. Rowling
Original Content Copyright © 2006-2009 David Haber, All Rights Reserved