Beyond Hogwarts

<Latest Articles
Comments Index
Save Last On

Search Beyond Hogwarts:

Reference Desk:
Beyond Hogwarts FAQ
Wizard to Muggle Currency Converter
Harry Potter Spelling Reference

Who is R.A.B. and where is Slytherin's Locket?

by David Haber

In the dramatic climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry recover a locket from Voldemort's secret cave. Only after Dumbledore "dies" does Harry open the locket and find the note from R.A.B. But who is R.A.B., and where is the locket now?

> Read the full article

Pages:  <<  <  16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 ...  >  >>

Reader Comments: (Page 26)

If you had "WWP's Rules of Constant Vigilance" on your mind, here they are:

1.If she (JO) reinforces it, she means it (and wants us to
remember it)

2.If she suddenly interrupts something (never finishes), she's hiding a key clue!

3.There's no such thing as a coincidence.

4.Don't take a character's word for it.

4a Hermione is usually right (except when she gets emotional)
4b Ron is usually wrong (except when he makes a joke about it)

According to WWP, Rule #4 also says - Characters often interpret events for us in her books. Just because the characters have an explanation does not mean it is correct. So Rule #4 would also apply to Harry, Dumbledore and others.

Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on January 15, 2007 08:34 AM

Knew I could count on you....

So that means Sirius' version of what happend to his brother may not be correct.
He could have been, like Snape, acting as a double agent but knew he was about to be found out and was ed before he could confirm and report his suspitions (to the Ministry or Dumbledore) about Morty making Horcruxes.

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 15, 2007 09:02 AM

My pleasure;-)

As it is impossible for us "Muggles" to get a copy of "Hogwarts a History", I am sure Hermione would with great enthusiasm, recommend us non magical people, Galadriel Waters books:

Ultimate Unofficial Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter

While visiting New York some time ago, I stumbled over her books. Thanks to that author I began to understand how ingenious JO had been with hiding so many clues in her books.

As JO herself stated: I want you to be able to guess if you've got your wits about you."

In my opinion it is almost a MUST or at least a lot of fun, for HP Fans to rummage in those cleverly written books.

Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on January 16, 2007 02:10 AM

Thanks; that's really interesting.

There should be another rule: Jo never lies in her interviews. When she doesn't want to answer a question, she replies something like "can't tell you" and that's all. When she wants to be ambiguous, she says "in some way, you might be right, you'll see how much in next book".

Now, speaking of Dumbledore, well. Jo says his guesses are never far from truth, but she doesn't say he is always right. Besides that, when he speaks to Harry, it is often in a hidden way. He delivers more clues than ready-for-use statements. Maybe Harry has to find out by himself or with Hermione's help, maybe he has to grow up a little more in maturity to understand everything that Dumbledore means. Nevertheless, although Dumbledore doesn't say too much, I think there is very very much to learn from what he says and what he means, even when joking.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on January 16, 2007 03:54 AM

Dumbledore is criptic about many things but some things he is very direct and deliberate. Like when he is trying to explain the difference between Harry's drive to destroy Morty, and Morty's drive to Harry.
Once the last book is writen we'll be able to go back and see everything more clearly. 'til then, we can always just talk about it.....

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 16, 2007 07:37 AM

By the looks of things I would say that Harry go to Bill and Fluer's wedding then go and hunt down Voldemorts horcruxes and along the way Harry run into Voldemort and him and then resume the horcrux hunt.

Posted by ALAN from JIANGMEN, CHINA on January 17, 2007 12:23 AM

It would be easier, for a short time, to hunt Horcruxes free from being hunted by Morty, but Morty might tell his stooges to Harry.
But I wouldn't worry to much about that. They don't have that good a record so far. But I think some one else step in to actually Morty so Harry doesn't have to any one.

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 17, 2007 06:27 AM

I agree with Kevin on the point Harry doesn't need to himself Voldemort (the prophecy doesn't put it that way, and that's probably on purpose).

By the way, Kevin, what for you would be a living Horcrux (either in a person or an animal)? We know that a Horcrux maintains the soul earthbound. We saw the diary produce a body (the body concealed inside) as a support for the soul. We can imagine a Horcrux being worn by someone(the ring), even introduced into someone's body (if small enough), but how would appear a living Horcrux? Would it be like Quirrell sharing his body with Voldemort's soul and having two faces? Would the soul have a consciousness or would it be sleeping, waiting for something to happen, like in the diary?

Posted by herve from strasbourg on January 17, 2007 09:45 AM

I think it would be a very bad idea to use a sentient entity as a Horcrux.
But if one did, one would be sealing a piece of one's soul inside that entity.
At which point, that entity is the only protection one's Horcrux is likely to receive. I think to remain effective the object, or in this case entity, must remain in the same condition as when it was made a Horcrux.

When the diary was destroyed, it stopped functioning as a Horcrux, Dumbledore said he destroyed the ring and a large crack appeared in the stone. If the cup has been turned into a Horcrux( I believe it has) were you to break it, it would cease to function as a Horcrux.

With a person or creature, if they were alive when made a Horcrux, they would only remain one as long as they lived.
But I don't think the fragment of soul would affect the creature in any visible or noticeable way.

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 17, 2007 10:08 AM

i believe that regulus black stole it and had it at grimmauld place and after sirius d mundungus took stuff fromk sirius' home and in this case harry is gonna have fun finding him

Posted by patrick from rochester, hew york on January 19, 2007 10:02 AM

It's quite obvious that Mundungus has it. Remember when Harry "bumped" into him, in Hogsmeade, in HBP? He had quite a few of the discards frim the purging of the Black ancestral home.

Posted by Elizabeth Ensley on January 20, 2007 11:11 PM

I dont think R.A.B was Regulus Black because firstly by the way Sirius talks about him you can tell that Regulus is quite a coward and would not risk his life just so that Voldemort would playing a fair game. Also Sirius says that Regulus wasn't that important so Voldemort would not be able to recognise him with only his initials(RAB). Also R.A.B sounded like he knew of the prophecy because he says "meet your match" which means (I think) that he knew that the prophecy stated that Voldemort had to fight someone as powerful as himself a.k.a Harry.
Also RAB would have to know about the incident when Tom Riddle took those two children from the orphanage he threatened to that cave on the day of the trip. And it says later that he (Voldemort) had revealed more than necessary to Dumledore on finding out he was a wizard and he made sure never to do it again which would mean that after telling Dumledore about this he didn�t tell anyone else and the only people who had known about it before Dumbledore were the people from the orphanage who were all muggles.If RAB didn�t know this incident then he WOULD�NT know of the caves importance to voldemort and he WOULD�NT have gone there to search for the horcrux.
And lastly he d. This means that RAB was NOT ed by anyone and he would obviously have d shortly after drinking the green potion that protected the hocrux because there was nobody to save him as it is quite obvious by the style he wrote his letter that he was alone.

Posted by karen from bangalore, india on January 20, 2007 11:59 PM

Pages:  <<  <  16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 ...  >  >>

Latest Discussions | Comments | The Septology | Harry's World | Harry Potter Movies | FAQ is not affiliated with or approved by
Scholastic Books, Bloomsbury, Warner Bros., or J.K. Rowling
Original Content Copyright © 2006-2009 David Haber, All Rights Reserved