Who is R.A.B. and where is Slytherin's Locket?
by David Haber
In the dramatic climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry recover a locket from Voldemort's secret cave. Only after Dumbledore "dies" does Harry open the locket and find the note from R.A.B. But who is R.A.B., and where is the locket now?
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Maybe all Harry has to do is order Kreacher to give him the locket...
or ask him where it is..
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 4, 2007 1:17 PM
If Kreacher knows... but I think Mundungus stole it from Grimauld Place, so Kreacher doesn't know where it is any longer...
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on January 4, 2007 1:36 PM
I dont think the locket in 12 Grimauld Pl is THE locket, but that locket could be of inportance. Maybe like the pair of cupboards used in HBP, one is needed to find the other.
Regulus is a very obvious choice for RAB, try thinking outside the box! JKR would not make it that easy. Its probably someones title that we find out in the next book.
Posted by Wynand from CT South Africa on January 5, 2007 08:33 AM
I agree totally with the R.A.B. is Regulus Black. I thought that before I saw this site. I wonder though, how old was Regulus when he stole the Locket? If he was still a minor, maybe he had some help doing it... Similar perhaps to what Harry and Dumbledore did... Maybe a De' ja' vu, with Regulus and someone else... Who that is... Well, if Regulus was younger then Sirius, and he was in, say, 6th year when this happened, maybe... eep... Snape was in on it? Only guessing, again. That's alot to put in there, but still... worth looking at?
Posted by Callie from Floriduh on January 5, 2007 5:07 PM
I recall Slughorn showing a picture to Harry of the First Order Of The Pheonix. In this picture he pointed out Dumbledores brother. I do not believe anything more was said about the brother except his name, which I do not recall at this time ( I believe he showed him the picture at the time when harry first meets Slughorn). Where was Albus' brother during the . Could the brother be playing a part in all of this?
Posted by sandy from ohio on January 6, 2007 06:03 AM
In the 7th book Harry might approach Bloody Baron the Slytherin ghost to get information on where to find the locket or any of the other horcruxes since he is a Gaunt (mentioned in the 4th book, triwizard tournament) and might know a technique to find the locket or know places were Salazar Slytherin lived were Voldemort is likely to hide his horcruxes
Posted by Mishal from U.A.E on January 6, 2007 06:25 AM
Isn't R.A.B. translated into different letters?
In Norway for example Sirius Black is called Siris Svart.
And the letters are R.A.S. In holland is he called sirius zwarts. And the letters are R.A.Z. This must mean R.A.B is Sirius' brother.
Posted by Chrissy from Holland on January 6, 2007 06:49 AM
From what i gather, R.A.B. is definitely Regulus Black. I'm not sure about the middle name, but it might be Alphard (his uncle).
As to the locket, i don't think Voldemort has it. I more believe it is in the possession of Narcissa Malfoy. After all, when Kreature got out of the house when Sirius ordered him "GET OUT!", he went straight to Narcissa and I have reason to believe that the locket had been one of the stuff he had stolen from Sirius' purge of the house. But then lets think. Kreature may not know have known about the horcrux (or could Regulus have told him) so he could not have known to take the locket in particular instead of anything else to Narcissa. So with that possibility in mind, we have to wonder if (A) its still in his cupboard and that they didn't see it because it was out of sight or (B) that Mundungus stole it and was making off with it.
Of course, if Mundungus does have it, he would most certainly sell it to Mr. Borgin for the money, and that would mean that either Mr. Borgin has it or it has been already sold to someone else.
Then there is still the question as to how we are sure that the locket we suspect is the correct one. Dumbledore gathered enough evidence that Voldemort would have used Slytherin's locket as his horcrux, but in book 6, during Harry's lessons, the penseive showed a locket with an S on it. The locket in Dumbledores hand at the end of book 6 didn't have an S on it. And the locket which we assume may have been in Kreature's possession at one point didn't have an S on it either. All the book said (Book 5, pg. 116/108) was 'A heavy locket that none of them could open'.
So now, where is the REAL locket? Which IS the real locket? How does Harry find the REAL locket? There are three lockets in play. (1) the one in the penseive which is slytherin's with the S on it, (2)the one in the cupboard at grimauld place and (3)the one at the end of book 6 which harry and dumbledore had gone to get.
Posted by Anonymus from Antigua, W.I. on January 6, 2007 4:39 PM
Mishal mentions that the bloody baron is a gaunt as mentioned in book 4 i have just reread GOF and did not notice this, can you let me know where this is mentioned as this would be an interesting lead if he is related to salazar
Posted by sarah from new south wales australia on January 7, 2007 02:58 AM
Just a few comments on the recent postings.
If Regulus was alive and had any connection with the Order, then I'm sure he would have at least mentioned to Dumbledore that there were horcruxes and that he found one.
Though having said this, I can't help but feel that Regulus is out of the picture yet. Unless it was someone else using Regulus's initials to divert suspicion from himself should L.V find out.
I too wished that J.K. described the locket found at Grim-old place in more detail. But because she didn't, it doesn't mean that the locket didn't have an "s" engraved on it.
Posted by Mikey from New Jersey on January 7, 2007 08:42 AM
So I have a thought about these horcruxes now... why was it that in Chamber of Secrets, the Diary Horcrux held a "fully functional" version of Voldemort? It wouldn't seem that just the written memories of LV would be enough to spawn Tom Riddle into a tangible form that can fight and as much as the original LV.
For that matter, where was the original LV when Tom Riddle was out and about fighting Harry in the chamber? I don't think it coincidence that this horcrux is only capable of becoming a being just because it was attached to a diary.
It would then seem that any of the horcruxes could spawn LV in some form, similar to Tom Riddle, that is intended to be able to defend itself. It would make sense considering the definition of a horcrux, it is a portion of the soul. If the original LV can survive with only a 7th of his soul, why couldn't the horcruxes do the same, just as Tom Riddle did with the diary?
Is every horcrux going to to become a fight between Harry and LV in some form? Most fo all I want to know what the true definition of a horcrux is, are they separate beings, different and independent from the original?
That question is supported by the fact that a horcrux needs a vessel... A diary, a locket, a ring... A diary which needed Ginny to allow it to be released. A locket that perhaps couldn't be opened (if the locket is the heavy thing they found while cleaning sirius' house)?
Just some thoughts, more questions then answers. I don't necessarily think its possible, but could these independent portions of LV's soul become his own downfall? Will each struggle to become the LV "rules" and not just the portion of his soul that remains a "backup to the original."
I know this may sound far fetched and difficult to understand, but I can compare it to cloning movies... When you clone someone they dont just sit around and follow orders, they have their own thoughts and feelings independent from the original person being cloned. My thoughts are that if Tom Riddle had his own thoughts and feelings separate from LV in Chamber of Secrets, then perhaps the rest of the horcuxes can also...
Posted by Marshall from Burkburnett, TX on January 7, 2007 2:35 PM
Marshall, very insightful observations. We really don't know much about horcruxes and how they behave. The most info we have is based on the diary.
Dumbledore's hand withered due to an encounter with one but we don't know if this was due to enchantments on the horcruxed ring or due to the horcrux itself. We do know that the enchantments alone on the fake horcrux in the cave took a toll on Dumbledore.
It's interesting to think that as Harry tracks down each Horcrux, he'll have to battle the fragment of Voldemort's soul.
Posted by Mikey from New Jersey on January 7, 2007 8:43 PM
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