Who is R.A.B. and where is Slytherin's Locket?
by David Haber
In the dramatic climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry recover a locket from Voldemort's secret cave. Only after Dumbledore "dies" does Harry open the locket and find the note from R.A.B. But who is R.A.B., and where is the locket now?
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Thats one more loose end that has to be tied up in book 7.
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on December 14, 2006 05:54 AM
Nice point Sarah! I hadn't thought of Amy Benson but it sure isn't something to dismiss. Amy has been inside that cave and her names corresponds to R.A.B but still, something nags me.
Joanne told us that she wouldn't introduce a new character and although Amy has been mentioned, she hasn't really had that much of an introduction yet.
Posted by Rane from Sweden on December 14, 2006 2:00 PM
I think that dumbledore may have contacted either amy and denis who would be in their 60's if my calculations are right, he may have got valuable info from them which they had not been able to disclose to anyone before. i dont think the pre hogwarts tom riddle would know about horcruxes at that time but as the lady at the orphanage said "something happened in there"
Posted by sarah from australia NSW on December 15, 2006 2:08 PM
If R.A.B. is Regulus, then how would he have known about the cave? That's the only problem I have with the whole Regulus theory. He couldn't very well have been sneaking around looking for the location of the Horcrux while still doing work for Voldemort, and we know that if you don't want to work for Voldy you're pretty much meat. He would have had to ask his fellow Eaters that were there about the memory, but I think that they would have turned Regulus in, trying to get some sort of reward.
I'm still kind of wary about this theory for lack of evidence and because it kind of seems too easy. All the other mysteries we've had to sort out have been harder to figure out than this. The day after HBP came out, people were saying "It's R.A.B.!" and that was that. At least, that's what my experience has been with R.A.B. theories. Has anyone heard of any other theories?
Posted by Sarah (different Sarah) from Hogwarts on December 15, 2006 8:47 PM
Well, we're sure of one thing. DD's not the only one who knows a fat lot about LV's life. There's someone else too who knows maybe more than DD. The only thing is whether or not he and DD are a team.
I don't think its Amy Benson because for one, she's a Muggle. Its only a wizard or a witch (very sed) who can possibly know about Horcruxes and she wasn't even in Hogwarts. Maybe.......she went to Durmstrang? They know a lot about the Dark Arts, don't they? Oh god, I'm just confusing myself.
Also, what exactly do you think Riddle did to Amy Benson and Dennis Bishop in the cave? He definitely did not make things levitate because he wouldn't have dragged them to the dingy cave for that.
Posted by Aditi from Nagpur, India on December 16, 2006 03:09 AM
Sarah from Hogwarts
Actually I am content at the moment that R.A.B. is Regulus Black. I love the idea that Regulus is the �hairy Bass player from the Weird Sister� (maybe I am weird too;-)
To your question �Has anyone heard of any other theories� who could be R.A.B. As a matter of fact yes I have. I read an editorial over a year ago that it could be: ANDROMEDA BLACK Sirius favourite cousin, Tonks mother!
I try to make it not overlong; here is what we know about her: She is/was Bellatrix and Narcissa�s sister. She married a muggle born wizard, Ted Tonks. For which she was blasted of the BLACK TREE.
She gave birth to a Metamorphmagus, a very rare happening. We have no prove that she was a gifted or under-talented witch. We don�t know if Andromeda is still alive, she is never mentioned in the other books. In HBP Mrs. Weasley said she got the impression that Tonks would be spending Christmas alone, which would indicate that either her mother was or Tonks does not have a good relationship with her.
We know that Bellatrix and her husband joined Voldemort�s gang. As did her brother-in-law Lucius Malfoy and probably Narcissa.
Maybe Voldemort wanted also the third sister to join him and when she refused, he ed her husband. This could then be her motive to take revenge on Voldemort. She might have heard about horcruxes, due to her sisters. Bellatrix was one of LV most faithful servants and she told Snape in HBP Chapter TWO �The Dark Lord has, in the past, entrusted me with his most precious-�she doesn�t finish her sentence and she probably meant a horcrux. Voldemort may have told her of the location of the Cave and either Andromeda was eavesdropping or forced the information out of Bellatrix.
Andromeda decided to go to the Cave and get the LOCKET. Who knows, maybe she had help on this from Regulus her younger cousin. Which would explain the R for Regulus, A for Andromeda, B for Black!
Together with Kreacher the house-elf, they took the boat and then she ordered Kreacher to drink the green potion. Andromeda may have underestimated the power of the potion and she might have d before destroying the REAL LOCKET.
Kreacher would have been able to defeat the INFERI and escape the cave, taking with him the locket back to 12 Grimmauld Place. We know that house-elf have very powerful magic. Not caring for Andromeda, seeing as she married a muggle-born and following her orders because he had to.
So R.A.B could indeed be a Black, this being the overlooked Andromeda Black.
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on December 16, 2006 12:27 PM
I like your theory, Mistral. The problem about Andromeda Black is the "R" in "R.A.B." Plus, I don't think that Kreacher would be able to go in the boat with Andromeda. House Elves have lots of magical power, and the boat moves by the ammount of magic in the boat.
I'm becoming more convinced that it's Regulus every time I think about it, and in all honesty, if it WAS him I wouldn't be surprised. I just have this feeling that it's too easy. Pretty much everyone who's looked for it has thought of him already, and I think that JKR would have hidden it better than that.
But don't listen to me. I'm just rambling.
Posted by Sarah from Gryffindor Tower on December 16, 2006 8:41 PM
Sarah from Gryffindor
I think the boat would have ignored Kreacher the same way it did Harry.
Morty underestimates the powers of any one but a fully qualified wizard.
Harry didn't register even though he may already be more powerful than some fully qualified wizards.
(not as well trained maybe)
and I think a house elf is more than capable of taking care of a few infiri...
Dobby blasted Malfoy with out to much trouble, I can't imagine infiri are harder to move than a eater..
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on December 18, 2006 06:41 AM
Andromeda isn't too overlooked. Infact she, along with Regulus, are the two ones that are mostly spoken of as potential R.A.B's.
First off, I'd like to point out a few parts of the text that I don't agree with you on.
-I can't admit that I know how Joanne plans Riddle's thoughts and views but from what we've seen so far, it's highly unlikely that he'd accept someone that married a muggle into his little group, despite the fact that the two other Black sisters were Eaters.
"What if Riddle approached Andromeda before she married Ted Tonks?" you may ask. Well, I don't know the dates and this is a pure guess, but Andromeda's child is older than Narcissa's, therefor it's probable that she met Ted Tonks before Narcissa even met Lucius. Of course, this isn't certain and may even be considered a rather weak point (seeing as Nymphadora is only 4 or 5 years older than Draco).
-Kreacher belonged to Orion and Walburga Black, not Cygnus Black and Druella Rosier (The forementioned are the parents of Sirius and Regulus and the latter ones are the parents of Bellatrix, Andromeda and Narcissa) Thus, Andromeda had no authority what-so-ever over Kreacher. And seeing as he don't like Muggles that much, I seriously doubt that he'd ever take an order from Andromeda. However if, as you say, Andromeda brought Regulus, Kreacher might've been along for the ride.
Nymphadora Tonks is about 22 years old I believe (this isn't mentioned, but guessed) and Andromeda must've atleast spent a year with him before giving birth to Nymphadora.
Did Riddle create the Horcrux in the cavern 23 years (or more) ago? Maybe, but again, unlikely. However he did his father and grandparents at the age of around 14-16 and he could've created a Horcrux shortly after.
Posted by Rane from Sweden on December 18, 2006 08:32 AM
It could be that Regulus and the Dark Lord were the team that PUT the locket in place originally. The protection is set up to require two to tango one of whom must be an underage wizard. I wonder if that was why Lucius had Draco.
The Horcrux for his family's was interred with his father's bones! He did slay others though!
Posted by ken from la ca usa ea(rth) on December 18, 2006 10:02 PM
I think the first horcrux Morty would have created was the ring.
He had just ed his father and paternal grandparents and had the ring when he asked Sluggy about them.
Could be that's why Mertal d, to create his first horcrux.
It's likely that since the diary was outside the school then brought back in, it was turned into a horcrux after he left school.
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on December 19, 2006 06:22 AM
Kevin - Mertal meaning Moaning Myrtle?
Let's not forget that Riddle ed three people when he was around 15 years old. Therefore, he could've created three horcruxes, most likely the ring and the diary (because Hufflepuffs cup and Slytherins locket wasn't in his possesion before he left school and I seriously doub that he had Nagini back then too.) Although this, in my opinion, is a rather weak theory. Riddle asked Horace Slughorn about Horcruxes so his interest for them was pretty high back then. And we know that he was pretty good at magic but would you honestly think he was good enough to create a horcrux at such a low age?
I'm neither arguing or agreeing with myself here, because even though the creation of a horcrux sounds pretty advanced, Riddle mastered Avada Kedavra at the age of 15 (possibly even lower).
Posted by Rane from Sweden on December 20, 2006 04:59 AM
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