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Herve, very interesting theory. I too have felt from the beginning that Dumbledore may be doing time traveling to control the events of the series (See new Revelations p 17 Dec 26th). I originally felt that Dumbledore from the future was to travel back in time sometime before the tower scene. He could then be ed by snape while the present dumbledore could then help harry.

This may also answer some of our questions involving who was at Godric's Hollow on Oct 31st. dumbledore may have travelled back in time to be there when Voldemort tried to Harry. this may explain why dumbledore knows a lot about that night. He was probably with someone else, and that person needed the invisibility cloak.

If the time travelling Dumbledore theory doesn't keep him alive, I still stand by my Dumbledore is a phoenix theory. He just can't be forever!

Posted by Heather from NJ on February 20, 2007 8:45 PM

Heather,
We are not really so far apart. I do not buy that Dumbledore is either. Whatever JKR says on that, I think there be a way around it, she really has no choice now but to continue saying that he is , she said he doesn't pull a Gandoff, but Gandoff came back from the in another form, he did not never in the first place. But I doubt if it is a time turner that turns out to be the trick, because I think time turners cannot be used to reverse . Or else everyone would have used them to prevent s all along.

I really suspect Draught of the Living , (it was mentioned in the very first potions lesson that Snape taught to Harry in PS), and a lot of help from Slughorn. I suspect that Slughorn, or Wormtail could have been standing in for Dumbledore, through the use of Polyjuice potion too. Whomever Snape turns out to be, I think he intended fully to Dumbledore.

I DO think that Dumbledore used a time turner to prevent Harrys the night that his parents were ed though. I think he waited until Lily d, turned back time, retrieved Petunia,under the invisibility cloak, cast the charm to activate the Bond of Blood,as required, had her accept Harry as her own, as required, so that when the AK Curse hit Harry, the bond of blood protection was in effect, and it rebounded.

I do not think that Dumbledore is evil, but rather that he had to make some hard decisions, and considered losing Lily and possibly James Potter as a small price to pay to rid the world of Voldermort.

I do not think Snape would have taken this realization very well. If in fact we were dealing with the real snape and not a Voldermort on polyjuice potion.

Posted by karen from Texas on February 20, 2007 9:38 PM

Karen, I am with you in thinking that Dumbledore travelled back in time to the scene at Godric's Hollow. In fact, I think that Dumbledore probably spend a lot of time time travelling---it's the only way he can be so sure of certain events. I too believe that Petunia was there at GH under the cloak.

I also think that Dumbledore may have influenced some of the events between Harry and Voldemort. When Dumbledore explains to Harry that some of Voldemorts powers may have been transferred to him (Harry) on that night, he adds "something that he (Voldemrot) did not intend to do, i'm certain" (something like that---my book is not in front of me). After many rereads i took it to mean that maybe Dumbldore, himself, may have made that happen. just a thought.

Posted by heather from NJ on February 21, 2007 1:38 PM

I find this possible, but have you considered that when Dumbledore and Harry entered the cave, they were soaking and the real Dumbledore who cared a lot about Harry would not have forgotten to turn his soaking cold clothes to warm dry ones. So i also believe that Dumbledore is not the real dumbledore.

Posted by yash from London on February 24, 2007 02:19 AM

Yash, I'm with you on the idea that it may not have been Dumbledore. Even though Dumbledore is a very powerful wizard he knew too much about the cave. How did he "know" the seacave was an antechamber (you can't tell how many rooms a house has by looking at the door). He knew not to touch the water, that the horcrux was in the middle on an island, that the boat would hold only one wizard, that he had to drink the potion, etc. There is only one person at the school that could have "known" that much about how Voldamort set up the cave: Snape. It may be that Dumbledore & Snape traded places & why the "Dumbledore" was so anxious to see Snape when he got back to the castle. He had to get there before the polyjuice potion wore off to "Trade" identities with Dumbledore. In every other instance in the previous 5 books Dumbledore has corrected Harry whenever he says Snape ("Professor Snape, Harry"), but not this time. Any other input on this theory?

Posted by Dave Porter from New Mexico, USA on February 24, 2007 7:21 PM

page 520 uk edition the cave
"and with the sudden agility of a much younger man. Dumbledore slid from the boulder, landed in the sea and began to swim with a perfect breast stroke."
dave hope this helps

Posted by gordon from uk on February 24, 2007 11:16 PM

Gordon: I'm wondering about this one. From time to time, Jo shows Dumbledore as if he was a young man. For instance, when Dumbledore helps Harry at the end of GoF.

And Jo also insists on the fact he looks old. I had a far-fetched idea, probably nothing very plausible, but why not: what if Dumbledore reversed his own time 65 years ago, when he was 85. We saw that in certain circumstances, someone can get younger (the Eater with a baby head). Then Dumbledore is now about 20 years old, but his ss as a metamorphmagus makes him appear old and grey.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on February 26, 2007 10:36 PM

Herve, interesting idea on how Dumbledore may infact be younger in years than he is in appearance. But you lost me---how exactly is Dumbledore only 20 years now? Please explain. Thanks :)

Posted by Heather from NJ on February 28, 2007 6:45 PM

Heather, imagine that 70 years ago (Dumbledore being 90 years old), Dumbledore got a way to reverse his time. Every new year, he lost one year of life. Ten years later, he is 70, then 60 and so on. When he gets to Privet Drive, he is 35 and now he is 20, and a few years later, he is underage for a wizard.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on March 1, 2007 10:34 AM

Herve, thanks--much clearer :)

That would certainly go along with Fudge's remark regarding Dumbledore and "reversal of time". You might be right. So he's 20 yrs in disguise as a 150yrs old or more. At what point can he make time go forward? I suppose at any time. Now would be a good time, since the wizarding world (but not I) think he's .

I do like the thought of him being reborn from his own ashes, though. I suppose he can move forwards in time now.

Posted by Heather from NJ on March 1, 2007 7:48 PM

Might it be another possibility that Dumbledore really is , but that he still hasn't left Harry completely, and continue to guide him as a ghost (which is possible if he has chosen to stay behind, as Nick explains is possible in the 5th book), or that a picture of him (as we all know, paintings of wizards can speak, think, and so on).

Posted by Tor Økland Barstad from Ås, a small place in Norway on March 5, 2007 3:04 PM

What if Dumbledore has been the whole series? JKR says that no one is from the future, but she doesn't say that Dumbledore has never been alive here.

Posted by karen from texas on March 8, 2007 10:17 PM

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