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Anonymous,
the cloak of Ignotus has passed on from generation to generation and Harry recieved it from his dad who had it before him. He could have stole it from someone or someone before him might have done we just don't know.

Posted by Craig Edwards from Telford on May 3, 2009 11:48 AM

ly hallows are supposed to protect their owners from . If the invisible cloak was a true ly hallows, why did Ignotus ? (James Potter had not the cloak at the time of his ).

Posted by Alpha Harris from Bangladesh on May 7, 2009 9:38 PM

But Dumbledore specifically tells Harry at King's Cross that the cloak has been passed down through the family, down to Ignotus's descendent - Harry.

Posted by Anonymous from Arizona on May 8, 2009 4:02 PM

Alpha, the ly Hallows for the first 2 brothers were to get them to . Also it says that Ignotus went peacefully, as an old friend with .

Posted by ithil from TX on June 2, 2009 09:24 AM

Dear All, There is one major question touching th ly Hallows: The Elder Wand is passing through generations by defeating the previous owner. It is the supposed principal. Without it it is supposed to lose its special qualities, its enormous abilities to provide magic. But: Gellert Grindelwald stole the Elder Wand from Gregorowitch! He did not conquer him. So - how it is possible for the Elder wand to keep its special features for its posessor? Or was it without these qualities and there was only the legendary aura remaining and giving its posessor psychological support? It explains, by the way, why was in 1945 Albus Dumbledore able to defeat in a duel Gellert Grindelwald - the owner of the Unbeateble wand in that time.
There are many complicated things in the magic world (as in the non-magical world, too).

Posted by Igor from Czech republic on June 3, 2009 06:36 AM

No, Igor I think i agree with Hermione on the point that wands are as powerful as the wizard or witch who uses them. At least, with some wizards. Dumbledore himself states that he and Grindleward were evenly matched, probably him being a bit more sful. This being the case, it doesn't neccessarily mean that this is the reason why he beat Grindlewald.

Posted by Craig Edwards from Telford on June 4, 2009 10:14 AM

Igor, here is your answer. The wand should be "won" by the new owner. Grindelwald took(stole) the wand from Gregorovitch without the of Gregorovitch, so he fully posesses the wand.

Posted by Ýzzet from Turkey on June 5, 2009 4:30 PM

WOW
Alpha-
ly Hallows are not made to help the owner survive. ly Hallows are a trick made my to make the process quicken up. hallows are automatic magnets. horocruxs protect their owner from unless they are destroyed

Posted by Nyx on June 17, 2009 07:01 AM

'If it was not 's true objects, then how did they retain their powers all these years. Plus the cloak never got thread bare or faded, cloth that does that has strong magic. I always thought had a cloak like that. How else could he sneak up on someone.'

Posted by Pamela Sue from Ark on March 3, 2009 09:43 AM

Good Question. I agree. They MUST have been s objects, other wise, how could they have stayed enchanted after centuries of magical use?

Igor, I agree with you. Unless Grindewald WASN'T the true wand owner, Dumbledore couldn't have beaten him, because the wand is unbeatable.

'WOW Alpha- ly Hallows are not made to help the owner survive. ly Hallows are a trick made my to make the process quicken up. hallows are automatic magnets. horocruxs protect their owner from unless they are destroyed'

Posted by Nyx on June 17, 2009 07:01 AM

Judging by your lack of knowledge, you know nothing about the ly Hallows. Horcrux's are an evil, lowly thing to do to preserve your essence on Earth. The Hallow's were created by three very powerfull wizards, the Peverell Brothers. The Objects were not created by , but according to Dumbledore, just made through extraordinary feats of magic. They do not attract , only through their actions to they bring on themselves.

Posted by James Jarvis from Hogwarts, Ravenclaw Common Room on July 5, 2009 01:07 AM

The Tale of 3 Brothers--
I assume that the bridge the Peverell Brothers made was a symbol of a battle/situation in the Peverell's life when they almost d (thus cheated ). Believing that they were invincible to , they created 3 powerful objects after that situation as a 'reward' for evading . The Peverells were 3 powerful wizards who put all their effort and knowledge on those Hallows.. each object reflected the personalities of the brothers, and I think each brother represented the different ways of how wizards tried to avoid . Reckless and sorrowful living did not do anything good to Antioch and Cadmus. And Ignotus was a wise wizard that's why he lived full and happy with his life, and d peacefully.

I think the lessons of the story boils down to these: All of us in the end. No one can evade . There is no such thing as immortality. And that our choices and way of living depends on how we .

Igor--
Wandlore indicates that to become a new master of a wand, it has to be conquered or taken by force. Ollivander said that this doesn't necessarily mean you have to or duel with that person.

Grindelwald became the true master of the Elder Wand because he stole the wand from Gregorovitch, which I think the wandmaker did not use for personal purposes (i.e, duels), rather for duplicating its remarkable qualities only. So the wand bent its to Grindelwald. On the other hand, Voldemort never became the true master of the Elder Wand (though he took it forcefully from Dumbledore) because it already recognized Draco as its master before Dumbledore d.

Posted by Ria from The Burrow, Ottery St. Catchpole on July 10, 2009 01:33 AM

Craig Edwards,
No one stole the cloak. Dumbledore himself said that the cloak didn't work as well for him as it did for Harry because Harry was the rightful owner of the cloak.

Alpha Harris,
Ignotus d because he had one Hallow. The three together were to make you the master of . Also, he was ing to . In the story of The Three Brothers, it said that the third and youngest brother took off his cloak of invisibility. passed it on to his son, and greeted like an old friend. Ignotus d a natural .

Yzzet and Igor,
The wand was not truly Grindelwalds because he didn't defeat Gregorovitch. It didn't work properly for him. Just like it didn't work properly for Voldemort. He defeated the wrong person.

Posted by Luna Lovegood from Ottery St. Catchpole on July 27, 2009 11:26 AM

I think the ELder Wand was truly Grindelwald's. He stuns Gregorovitch before he escapes, and that seems to count as defeating him because that is the only way Dumbledore can win mastery of it. Remember after Dumbledore defeats Grindelwald he becomes the true master of the Elder Wand. We know this is true because Draco becomes the true master after dissarming Dumbledore and Harry becomes the true master after overpowering Draco. Since Dumbledore only becomes the wand's master after winning in the duel against Grindelwald, Grindelwald had to have been the master in the first place.

Posted by Anonymous from Arizona on July 27, 2009 2:18 PM

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