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The power The Dark Lord knows not
by David Haber
It all comes down to this. The big difference between Voldemort and Harry. The only difference that's really important. It couldn't be more important to the climax of the Harry Potter Septology Mystery. And the reason we know it's important is because J.K. Rowling went out of her way to tell us about it, right out, in plain language, not couched in a riddle, in the very first Harry Potter book.
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Thats a great theory, herve. But if it were true, then why would Voldemort be trying to harry?
Posted by Rafael Garcia from Oporto, Portugal on May 8, 2007 03:30 AM
Monkeeshrines from Orlando,
Your theory might be right, but you are mistaken about people loving him, they don�t.
They love power, they love the idea of being close to him, the things they can do as his followers, but they don�t love him, they fear him.
Even Bellatrix fears him, fears his rage when she fails him, fears being tortured, but still follows him because she can be all powerful as long as she stands by his side. She follows him because she is feared, and because she feels recognized and appreciated by The Dark Lord, she thinks she is one of his �Inner Circle�, one of the ones he trusts. It was a powerful blow to be told by Snape that �he already knew of the Dark Lord�s plan� at the beginning of HBP, because it puts Severus at her level, or even higher.
Now that Snivelus has gone back to He-who-must-not-be-named, he probably be one of Voldemort�s closest, even Higher than Bella, which might cause problems within the Eaters as they become jealous of his presence and proximity to their leader.
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 8, 2007 4:53 PM
The thought of Harry hugging voldemort and going "I Love you!" May not voldemort, but I'd laughing if that was printed!
Excellent way of thought though!
Posted by Sainath from Chennai. TN on May 8, 2007 9:32 PM
Emilio: nice thoughts, I totally agree.
Rafael Garcia: there could be some good reasons for Voldemort to Harry, but I'm not sure he really did try, except in SS/PS when he wanted to get the stone. Since he came back to physical life in GoF, Voldemort faced Harry twice. The first time, his curse was stopped by Harry's wand and . The second time, his curse doesn't seem to be a ing curse, the way it's written. There are other green curses than Avada Kedavra, even if Jo puts it in such a way that we think that a green curse is mortal. Avada Kedavra is always associated with a strong gust of wind. Nothing similar in the two curses Voldemort sent to Harry. So, there is no evidence that Voldemort wanted to Harry, and no Eater is allowed to Harry.
Posted by herve from strasbourg on May 9, 2007 12:59 AM
Emilio, I see what you're saying and I may be mistaken in stating that people (as we know, anyway) love him now. But people have. It would have been after he had developed his "do not need love" attitude. An example of this is in Chamber of Secrets, when Memory Tom is explaining to Harry how Ginny "ended up like this". "Ginny simply loved me." Before you say I'm taking it too literally, keep in mind that Ginny trusted Tom, confided in him, cared about him, even refused to go to her first year at Hogwarts - something she had been looking forward to "since Bill went" - without him. That's more love than he had ever had at the age of 16. And he used her. That's what I meant.
Oh, and I agree on your bit about the other Eaters being jealous of Severus. My best friend theorized Voldemort may be so happy that he would offer a horcrux ("immortality" if you ) to him as a reward for ing of Albus... but that theory really should go somewhere else.
Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on May 9, 2007 09:41 AM
A reader said something interesting: that Eaters love Voldemort. NO! They fear him, and to some degree, probably they hate him. But they are hungry for power; therefore, they stick with him. That is, of course, if he is there to remind them to stick with him.
Dave, what an excellent article; you opened a world of possibilities in my mind.
Posted by Ariadna Quijano from Mexico on May 9, 2007 3:27 PM
"Quirrell, full of hatred, greed and ambition, sharing his soul with Voldemort...could not touch you...it was agony to touch a person marked by something so good" (PS). And, you don't have to be that nasty to have things happen... when Uncle Vernon grabs Harry in OOP after the noise outside the house he has to let go as if Harry were red hot or had an electric shock.
Now.. people think that this cannot continue because A. Voldemort has some of Harry's blood now. B. because Harry soon be 17. But is this so?
The protection 'in his blood' protects him perhaps only while he is at home with his 'blood relatives'. He has had protection away from home.
Voldemort tried to Posess Harry in almost the exact manner as Quirrell at the Ministry in OOP. Voldemort ALREADY HAD the blood added. Voldemort suffered so much agony when Harry thought loving thoughts that he had to flee the posession. Clearly the 'blood' issue only removed the inability to touch Harry physically. The 'incompriable power' of a pure and undivided soul remains on Harry's side as well as other marks of love.
Because the ending of the series was written at the same time as Philospher's Stone, the clues there may be more helpful in this part of the mystery. Clearly Greedy and Ambitious people are MORE harmed by mingling with pure/good/loving people. Dave may be closer to the mark than many of us would care to admit. We would not all roll over laughing if accidentially the two were thrown into a situation where Harry and Voldemort were touching and Harry's love of someone damaged Voldemort severly.
Posted by Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg, Pa on May 9, 2007 7:36 PM
The protection Harry has is more than one protection that work hand-in-hand with each other (kinda like an American football helmet and mouthguard protecting the player's head). There's Lily's protection left on him when she d for him, and the separate protection Albus left on him when Petunia took him in. Since Albus' magic involved Petunia adopting Harry, when she is no longer his legal guardian, that is, when he comes of age at 17, that protection is nullified. Lily's protection is "magic at it's deepest, most impenetrable" spawned by love, is with him wherever he goes, and is unlikely to ever fade for the rest of Harry's life.
I'm inclined to agree with Charlie (and most others) that Voldemort taking Harry's blood did a lot more harm than help by infusing Voldemort with "something so good". Whether this be enough to cause Voldemort to feel love, I really don't know.
Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on May 10, 2007 09:57 AM
Monkeeshrines from Orlando,
You are right, in a way.
It is true that Ginny loved and trusted "Tom" as he was pretending to be, all charming and understanding. The "memory Tom" mocked these feelings, not being able to understand them, but, as you said, used them to his advantage.
Hepzibah was at least infatuated with Tom, thus showing him her treasures. Tom was in aware of his effect on her and cultivated it, even by Dumbledores admission, Tom Riddle was a charming young man, but that stopped when he adopted his Voldemort persona.
Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg,
Dumbledore said that Harry was safe at his Aunt's home as long as he visited once a year while he was underage, that the protection of her house would disappear when he came of age, but I don't think that the protection awarded him by his mother's sacrifice is also void.
Voldemort may think that by having Harry's blood in his own veins he can now destroy him, that may not be the case, if we take into consideration the "gleam of something like triumph" that Harry saw in Dumbledore's eyes when he told him about what happened on the graveyard.
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 11, 2007 09:37 AM
man it took me five minutes to stop laughing! its a superb idea of hugging voldemort. just imagine the look on dark lord's face when he would be hugged by his enemy and above all he of heart attack when he hears phrase "i love you".
he might go insane probably if he heard something of that sort. well seriously if jk has planned any thing of that sort then it terminate and destroy all the thrill. i hope there would be good duel and harry (if this theory is correct) use this phrase as his last resort
but still lets hope for a thrilling end.
Posted by mobashir from karachi pakistan on May 11, 2007 11:52 AM
With interest I have read all kinds of ideas and theories about how love might conquer Voldemort, although the "hug to " idea seem too fantastic for words and would be a bit of a dull ending in my opinion.
Reading all ideas I wonder if there is not something we forget. It is not only the love from Lily that saved Harry, but also the fact that she sacrificed her life to save him. There are no -eaters who sacrify there lives (out of loves or on free ) for Voldemort. But any in harry's group of friend would give their life for him as he would for them.
I have an idea, how Voldemort might be defeated with this in mind.
There is an end battle between Voldemoron and Harry, Ron and Hermione (or even Ginny). Ron, Hermione or Ginny is about to and Harry jumps in front of them, the moment Voldemort puts the "avada kedavra" spell on him/her. This sacrifies is like the "love protection" Harry got from Lily. But the curse bounces of Harry again as it did 16 years before and s Vodemort, now for good (I assume there are no horcruxes anymore.)
I'm anxious to read what JK has come up with and I would like it if I'm not far off with my idea
Posted by Erres from The Hague, Netherlands on May 13, 2007 1:45 PM
Erres from The Hague,
I posted the same thing, whith a different wording! I think that this is a great possibility, Harry ing to for those he loves might just increase the love protection that Lily placed uppon him, and end up ing Voldy, finaly giving us a happy ending.
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 14, 2007 3:52 PM
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