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could be a wand movement that corresponds to the rune of the magic, say for a horcrux

Posted by glorfindel from aberdeen uk on May 1, 2007 2:56 PM

I could be wrong, but when COS 1st came out on DVD I watched an extra about the making of Dumbledore's office (anyone with the movie could check). I'm pretty sure someone like the set designer said they worked closely with JKR so the office would look how she had envisaged it. Whether this means they used JKR's drawings or simply showed her their designs and agreed, I don't know. Point is if JKR did help design Dumbledore's COS movie office, is the set in GOF the same, did she contribute? I know the films aren't cannon, but surely if JKR designed the symbol in the office, it has to count for something.

Posted by mmc from sa on May 1, 2007 4:29 PM

A couple of definitions of Order:- "Prevailing course or arrangement of things" and "Formal disposition or array" (as in troops). So, the 'new order' in the film could be the rise of Dumbledore's Army but, I think, it means a new course for the wizarding world, a new future where they fight under a banner that binds them all together. After all the Sorting Hat has been telling the students to work together and not fight, and Hermione echoes this. One use for the symbol.

A thought did occur to me though. I think the ly Hallows is someOne(s) not "someThing" or an 'event' and I have a nagging suspicion that the symbol might belong to them/it JKR does not usually go in for these written symbols (there are enough accusations about her leading us poor folk down the paths to witchcraft without bringing in the mystical visuals!)

Charlie: I am still trying to work out the silver smoke instrument and DD's statement. Again, a nagging suspicion I can't pin down - about it meaning 'something.

Posted by Marjorie from New Zealand on May 1, 2007 4:29 PM

I saw a symbol for anarchism on symbols.com that looks very extremely close. It is a circle with an A in it.

Posted by oscar from IL on May 1, 2007 4:56 PM

So maybe it has something to do with the ministry of magic...

Posted by Claudia on May 2, 2007 04:30 AM

About that order, in GoF they are talking about a dark order. I think moody says it, but I don't have the book right now.

Posted by claudia on May 2, 2007 04:36 AM

I found a symbol that looks like ours, if you combine it. It is the symbol for earth. Earth stands for femanity, so could this symbol mean that lilly (as we know) is going to play a big role in the story.

Posted by Claudia on May 2, 2007 04:48 AM

absolutly wonderful stuff.
just adding on symbol. the same but essence divided. if it is related to harry and voldemort than i am sure that this symbol shows that harry is voldemort's horcrux because he has many qualities of lord voldemort. but as he is a gryffindor and also not evil, he is different from voldy. so circle means that harry and voldemort are pretty much same but the lines bisecting shows that they are different also.

Posted by hassan from pakistan on May 2, 2007 08:05 AM

First.- Did anybody notice that the rune for EI is a lightning bolt as it is shown on Harry's forehead on the movies?

EIhwaz= Defense, the Scar has been in a way Harry's defense, or at least the reminder that he had a defense against Voldy.

Second.- as stated in the article: “In the Alchemy symbol, the triangle symbolizes fire. In the Harry Potter books, Dumbledore is symbolized by fire over and over again. Could the Septology Symbol be Dumbledore, with a line running through him, possibly mean there are two Dumbledores?”

I am one of those who have posted in “The mystery of Abeforth” stating that I believe that Abeforth is in a way the opposite of his brother Albus, personality wise, and that believe that Abeforth has a relationship with Water as Albus had with Fire, so it could very well symbolize the two Dumbledores.

I also like the idea of Slitherin and Gryffindor houses being in a way joined and divided at the same time.

Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 2, 2007 12:24 PM

Absolutely fascinating article.

Perhaps JK Rowling is such a genius that she has taken several symbols, meaning all the different ideas mentioned in the article and merged them to create her own unique symbol, hoping avid readers may guess one of; but not all the possibilities.

'The All Seeing Eye', with the line down the centre suggesting possibly two halves of an entire whole I see Lily and Harry. I believe Lily Potter was a Seer who foresaw the attack at Godrics Hollow, I also believe there is enough evidence throughout the novels to support the theory that Harry too is a Seer - although he does not know it yet. 'Two halves of the same whole' - Lily inadvertently brings about Voldemort's downfall the first time, and now Harry bring about Voldemorts destruction with help of the all seeing eye he inherited from his mother.

Posted by Orlando from England on May 2, 2007 12:26 PM

if the AK curse is fire based wouldn't it scorch the person's body? It leaves no marks. Maybe I'm wrong... and phoenix are reborn from their ashes not fire. Fawkes s on a burning day and catches fire when he s. He's reborn from the ashes.

Also I doubt Dumbledore needed the horcruxes explained to him, but he wanted to know how much info Voldy got from Slughorn. I know horcruxes are dark magic but i would bet money that Dumbledore knew what they were. Plus that's how we know how many horcrux there are, by what Voldemort told Slughorn.

Posted by amber from jacksonville fl on May 2, 2007 1:00 PM

Amber

I don't know if the fire would scorch him, because it does not scorch people when they travel in the fire by flu powder.

And you are right--the phoenix is always reborn from ashes, not fire.

There are some interesting theories here!

I am in agreement with Orlando that Lily/Harry could be seers. I know we are supposed to learn a lot more about Lily in the final book, and this idea would fill the gap perfectly.

Posted by china from texas on May 2, 2007 5:04 PM

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