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The Aftermath: We were all correct
by David Haber
Sometime a week before Book 7 came out, someone commented that Harry would die, but then come back. I think most everyone on the site thought it was a silly idea. But I told several people at that time that I thought that just might be the perfect solution, although I couldn't figure out how J.K. could make it work. J.K. did, of course! So, the half of the Harry Potter fans in the world who thought Harry would die were right! And the other half who thought he would live were also right!
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I was surprised that harry didn't go into the ministry and do something with the veil. With all that popping up in book 5 about the veil, I was SURE it would get Harry's parents and sirius and dumbledore back. and when Xeno was describing the use of the resurrection stone, he said the girl was "as if behind a veil".
Posted by jake on August 11, 2007 5:53 PM
I'm looking for a 'Deus Ex Machina' or in layman's terms 'an easy way out' that Jo may have provided in an interview!
Has anyone asked her how Snape had access to the Headmaster's office to converse with Dumbledore PRIOR to his reinstatement to Hogwarts and appointment as headmaster? We know this takes place because in his memories we see Dumbledore's portrait "behind his desk" tell Snape that he needs to leak the date the order is planning on moving Harry, and obviously this takes place WELL BEFORE Bill's wedding (when Voldy takes over the ministry and Snape is re-instated at Hogwarts and made headmaster).
I can NOT believe that Hogwarts wasn't sealed IMMEDIATELY after Severus (sorry- "Professor Snape") ed Dumbledore. I know he may have been able to sneak in via the shrieking shack, but how did he actually access the headmaster's office? How did he know that McGonagall wasn't in the office? Bastard or not - he wouldn't want to have confronted her, or hurt her - it would have exposed him! He doesn't have the Marauders Map, so how does he navigate the school, even if we can figure out how he accesses the headmaster's office?
Posted by Monica McLane on August 11, 2007 9:11 PM
I was just thinking...
Doesn't it strike you as odd that the Horcruxes were destroyed in the same order as they were created?
1. Diary-made when Riddle opened Chamber of Secrets
destroyed by Harry when Lucius planted it on Ginny
2. Ring-made shortly after Riddle's at Little Hangleton
destroyed by Dumbledore a month after Dept. of Myst.
3. Locket-made after Riddle left school
destroyed by Ron in the late winter of DH
4. Cup-made along with locket
first Horcrux destroyed during battle of Hogwarts
5. Diadem-made in between working at B&B and teach app.
destroyed by Crabbe's Fiend Fyre during battle of
6. Harry-accidentally made in Godric's Hollow
destroyed when Harry gave himself up and lived
7. Nagini-made when old Muggle is ed by Voldy in GoF
destroyed by Neville shortly before his
And to answer your question, Awais, Griphook said that the copies of the treasure were worthless, therefore the cup was duplicated, but its properties as a horcrux were not. These versions of Hufflepuff's cup aren't the only Horcrux duplicates; Hermione duplicated the locket to fool Umbridge at the Ministry. I personally don't think that part of a soul can be duplicated, same as a person can't be duplicated; please note that when using the Polyjuice Potion, the drinker is actually another person and only the appearance is duplicated, not the person himself.
Now I have just one question: can Harry still talk to snakes though he is no longer a Horcrux?
I don't think he would, but I'm not sure.
Posted by C.J. from Utah on August 12, 2007 01:03 AM
what I don't get is, how did the Gaunt family get the resurrection stone? It obviously passes down through family. But in the story of the three brothers it says that the middle brother had the resurrection stone, and then it says that he ed himself to truly join the woman he was supposed to marry. so he never was married and never had children so how would the stone have passed down through his family?
Posted by Anonymous on August 12, 2007 1:59 PM
here is something i have been thinking about ever sence i read that regulus black was takin into the lake by the iferi. when Harry in HBP tried to retrieve the locket, one single body came up out of the water. what if that was regulus's body giving them a warning of what was in the lake?
I'd still like to know, where is fudge? Also, in DH on page 673, lucius Malfoy is at the slyterin table wearing a prefect badge. He patted Snape on the back after snape had been sorted into syltherin house. so that means James, sirius, lupin, and lily went to shool with lucius malfoy. I wish JKR would write more letting us read the interactions of the maruaders with Lucius malfoy. plus I'd love to know how regulus found out about the horcruxes.
Posted by Pamela sue from ark on August 12, 2007 6:19 PM
Why isn't Voldemort is the True Master of the Elder Wand? Grindelwald stole it from Gregorovitch, but he didn't defeat him (unless you count a hastily aimed stunner as defeating someone). However Voldemort ed Gregorovitch, therefore he is the True Master.
Posted by Rhiannon Raphael on August 12, 2007 7:34 PM
When Voldemort ed Gregorovitch, the Elder Wand had already been taken from him by Dumbledore and Draco had disarmed Dumbledore just before he d, so Voldemort did not the master of the Elder Wand, and neither did Snape.
Posted by C.J. from Utah on August 12, 2007 9:51 PM
The way the mastership goes from one to the other is to me pretty inconsistent. Grindelwald seemed to perfectly know about the wand and its properties, which they had stud together with Albus Dumbledore. He obviously thought that he would get the mastership by only stealing the wand. He stunned Gregorovitch to make sure he would escape free. If Gregorovitch hadn't woken up, he wouldn't have stunned him at all. Then, logically stealing would ensure mastership.
When Malfoy curses Dumbledore, he expells the wand, but never has it in his hand. Why then does he become the master of the wand? If Snape hadn't ed Dumbledore, but had stunned Malfoy and saved Dumbledore (another story...), then Dumbledore would have recovered his wand. Who would have been the master for the wand? Malfoy? Snape who had stunned Malfoy? Still Dumbledore who hadn't really been vainquished? Is it logical that Malfoy inherit the mastership of the wand, just because Snape ed Dumbledore?
If someone just had to disarm (or even stun) the owner of the wand to get mastership, then the mastership could go a very different way that the wand goes. Rows seemed to be frequent in the past and the owner of the wand could have been stunned or disarmed in a row, without losing his wand. How can everybody be sure that Gregorovitch had owned the mastership of the wand?
Moreover, when Harry disarms Malfoy in Malfoy manor, Malfoy carries three wands including his own wand, but not the elder wand. Frankly, I have a hard time considering that simply wretching the wrist of Malfoy would get Harry the mastership of a wand that was miles away!
Then, there is the duel with Voldemort. Voldemort s Harry but Harry is given the choice to come back to Earth living (by the way, Jo said she wouldn't do a Gandalf with Dumbledore, she did it with Harry). Voldemort doesn't inherit the mastership of the wand. So we must admit that you can get the mastership by twisting a wrist and not by nearly ing someone. You can own the mastership by stealing the wand from a shop, but not from a tomb.
Of course, Harry is the master of the wand because Jo put it so, but as she really is very careful about the internal consistance of her story, we must admit that on a key point (Harry defeats Voldemort only because he's the wand master), she somehow failed to put it up logically.
By the way, regarding now, I would have much preferred to see Malfoy being the master of the wand, and decide to turn on the good side at last. That would have been a tremendous and totally unpredictable ending. Malfoy is an Occlumens and could have fouled Voldemort. Harry and Malfoy could finish Voldemort together. The symbol was really fine: Gryffindor and Slytherin together at last, the second of Lucius Malfoy (after Voldemort has deprived him from his wand), a mirror to Dudley's reconciliation in the beginning of DH, a nice shot back to his mother who saved Harry by lying to Voldemort, to protect Malfoy. It would also better fit with the epilogue: as an overage wizard, Malfoy was free of his choices and then clearly was the accomplice of Voldemort; even if he apparently ed noone, he should have spent a good amount of time in Azkaban; how could he then get married and have a child less than eight years after?
I'm probably assuming too much, but when Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore in HBP, Jo obviously had the elder wand story in mind, and knew the benefit she could take by fouling Voldemort (Harry, Snape and Malfoy know that Malfoy defeated Dumbledore; Voldemort doesn't). Didn't she think at that time she would give to Malfoy a bigger and nicer role, but for some reason she abandoned her first aim and made Harry the master of the wand (that would also explain why they switch wands so many times, which is unusual and seems to me pretty artificial)?
Posted by herve from strasbourg on August 13, 2007 01:05 AM
Why wasn't the horcrux in Harry destroyed in the 2nd book when harry got that basilisk fang in his arm? I thought basilisk poison destroyed horcruxes.
Posted by Amanda Södergren from Malmö, Sweden on August 13, 2007 02:22 AM
The book was lovely, but it raises questions as much as it answered them. My most important questions are: Why did Regulus Black change his mind and became a 'goo'? Also, why would Dumbledore not have told Harry he was ? Then Harry would have trusted Snape...
Posted by Chris from The Netherlands on August 13, 2007 04:04 AM
When we read the whole series, we find a certain amount of inconsistancies and useless clues, mainly due to the length of the books, and also to the fact that she obviously changed her mind over a few things that seemed nice at first look but weren't easy or convenient to write.
I'd be very interested in knowing about why she put things this way, and having answer to a bunch of questions that remain to me unexplained:
* the thestrals: Harry should see them not only at the end of GoF-Jo admitted this one was not intentional, but from the beginning of the story, as he was present when Lily was ed,
* why did Jo say that Lily was given a clear choice about sacrificing herself, as she was only asked to get aside and Voldemort himself thought that he could stun her without ing her, and decided to her on his own impulse (and we're induced to think that he would have done that anyway after having ed Harry, as it was just "to be prudent")?
* why was it so important in OotP that Voldemort have no further knowledge about the prophecy, as long as Voldemort had already understood everything in the prophecy,
* why in the prophecy should Voldemort at the hand of Harry, and Harry specifically; couldn't Malfoy do the trick (he was able to get informations from Kreacher since Harry never asked him to be silent about the locket, he could have guessed that Bellatrix had something important hidden in her vault, he knew how to get inside the room of requirement where the tiara was concealed (next to the vanishing cabinet!), he could Nagini as well as Nevile and he was the master of the elder wand for a long span of time, he also could Harry which would have destroyed the last Horcrux,
* why did Voldemort try to preserve Lily (who had three times defied him and clearly was in the Order of the Phoenix) and said to Snape he would not save her?
* why does Pettigrew earn a silver hand, matching the story of Nuada?
* who was supposed to practice magic in his old life, according to Jo's interview?
* why did Dumbledore say he was not going on hiding when he was thrown out of Hogwarts but did hide in fact?
* why didn't Dumbledore try anything to find out about the Horcruxes until the end of OotP, though he knew that Voldemort could come back, and he already had the sluggish memory?
* why everything is done so that Drago Malfoy could redeem himself by turning on Harry's side by the end and he does not (at the end of DH, Malfoy is still on the Eater's side, he has been actively involved in many illegal actions, like getting people inside Hogwarts, cursing and trying to the Hogwarts headmaster, contributing to the seclusion of people for the sake of Voldemort, being the accomplice of many crimes: that should earn him at least ten or twenty years of Azkaban, Lucius Malfoy was sent to Azkaban for less than that in OotP; but it seems in the epilogue that he hasn't been charged for anything since he was able to get married quite soon after DH),
* who was supposed to be present at the Potter's the fateful night (I don't recall where but I'm sure I saw that in her interviews or on her site),
* why did Hagrid spend a whole day with Harry bringing him to Privet Drive, when an hour seems to be enough time to go from Privet Drive to the Burrows with the same flying motorcycle,
* why was Dumbledore so sure that Petunia would accept to take Harry, without seeing her, and why was he so sure that she would go on accepting Harry for seven years?
* how was Petunia protected when she was outside her house, why was she in real danger in DH, and never in OotP or HBP?
* why we didn't see again Arthur's car, and how was it supposed to be useful?
* why is the prophecy written the way it is (the Dark Lord mark him as his equal but he has power that the Dark Lord knows not) inducing that Voldemort would mark Harry prior his power is revealed (and not as the result of this power, as it reaaly is)?
* did Jo intend at first to get part of the action in Hogwarts, Hermione and Ron being in Hogwarts and Harry making visits to them, but finally decided to have Voldemort controling the Minister and Hogwarts very soon in the novel?
* when Arthur's wound couldn't be cured by Muggle means, was it just a joke (Arthur and the Muggles) or was it supposed to be a clue?
* why did Jo make so many efforts to set arythmancy and publicize it through Hermione, why did she make the first names of founders altogether make 9-9-9, and never used that further?
* why did the sorting hat say that the four houses should join, and no Slytherin was there to fight against Voldemort?
* why did Jo show us Dumbledore as a foolish in the beginning of SS, telling his famous four words, when we see all over then that he's very serious in all his speeches?
* couldn't Snape reveal to any of the Eaters the location in Grimmault Place, since he had becomen a secret-keeper - why did Hermione feel safe there with protections against the lone Snape?
Posted by herve from strasbourg on August 13, 2007 07:20 AM
I think it wasnt the Elder Wand that saved Harry, but I think it was love. He gave Voldemort a choice to live.
Posted by Kendra from Alicante, Spain on August 13, 2007 10:47 AM
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