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The Aftermath: We were all correct
by David Haber
Sometime a week before Book 7 came out, someone commented that Harry would die, but then come back. I think most everyone on the site thought it was a silly idea. But I told several people at that time that I thought that just might be the perfect solution, although I couldn't figure out how J.K. could make it work. J.K. did, of course! So, the half of the Harry Potter fans in the world who thought Harry would die were right! And the other half who thought he would live were also right!
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To Katie T from California:
When Snape said "Take... it... Take... it..." he was talking about the memories Harry later saw. The whole quote:
"A terrible, rasping, gurgling noise issued from Snape's throat.
'Take... it... Take... it...'
Something more than blood was leaking from Snape. Silvery blue, neither gas nor liquid, it gushed from his mouth and his ears and his eyes, and Harry knew what it was, but did not know what to do -
A flask, conjured from thin air, was thrust into his shaking hands by Hermione. Harry lifted the silvery substance into it with his wand. When the flask was full to the brim, and Snape looked as though there was no blood left in him, his grip on Harry's robe slackened.
'Look... at... me...' he whispered."
So, as far as I can see, Snape's memories somehow go out of him (though this is strange, for it is usually TAKEN out of the brains, this "silvery blue, neither gas nor liquid" sounds more alike the soul you can see sucked out of Sirius in book 3), Hermione conjures a flask and Harry puts the silvery stuff in it. And now I see(after reading some more) that I am right: it says later on "Harry ran without stopping, clutching the crystal flask of Snape's last thoughts,..."
You can't be certain about Hermione's parents, but to me it is a kind of extra hint that the spell was lifted, along with the fact that there isn't much for them to fear anymore, and Hermione has never spoken ill of them, so she probably loves them, and wants them back. They're not in much danger anymore, are they?
This site has helped me so much, you know. There were only few things I wondered after I'd read it, now, after reading all those comments(yes, all of them - I know I'm mad, it's just some kind of way to keep it alive) I realize so much more, and I ask myself more questions, too. Usually I start asking questions a long time after I finish reading books, and I certainly don't see mistakes like you guys did, or strange things like that with the wand and why Colin Creeves was at school. I was about to suggest that he may have come back to help when I read other people's explanations... also that one about him having some magical relative. Thanks!
And now that I have loads of spare time, I'm going to read the book again... and again, perhaps... reading it more carefully to find answers.
Posted by Diantha from Noord-Holland, Holland on July 30, 2007 11:41 AM
1. I don't think it matters where the sword was; it takes a true Gryffindor to pull it out of the hat. when harry did it in CoS, the sword wasn't in his possession, yet he was able to get it. the same holds true of neville; he proved himself worthy and was able to get the sword.
2. 'There be no more Sorting at Hogwarts school; there be no more houses; the emblem, shield and colors of my noble ancestor, SS, suffice for everyone' - he wanted to burn the hat and give a lesson.
Posted by M on July 30, 2007 11:51 AM
You are correct Dave, but I guess what I'm trying to ask is why do some spells such as the one Dumbledore used to freeze Harry when he was ed, why do they break when the person who cast the spell d and others don't? I'm sure there's some sort of reason or difference but I'm not finding anything to explain this in any of the books (another reason we need the Harry Potter encyclopedia I guess). But in Half Blood Prince it states that the reason the freezing spell on Harry broke could only have meant that it's caster had d, so that's why I'm wondering why some seem to break while others don't.
Posted by sm on July 30, 2007 12:02 PM
What a great book! By far the best in the series!
Posted by Denise from Logan, UT on July 30, 2007 12:06 PM
oh yeah and I didn't say they ALWAYS break when the caster s. It's just as I was reading the book again it hit me that that one in particular, when Dumbledore froze Harry had broken because he'd d so it makes me wonder what the difference is. Does anyone know if there's somewhere in one of the books that tells why this sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't.
Posted by sm on July 30, 2007 12:08 PM
A transcript of the Bloomsbury on-line chat with JKR is now on the net, and it addresses the question everyone has been asking about who did magic late in life:
"Snapedinhalf: You promised that someone do magic late in life in book 7. I've now read it three times but cant work out who it might have been! Please help!
J.K. Rowling: I'm sorry about this, but I changed my mind!
J.K. Rowling: My very earliest plan for the story involved somebody managing to get to Hogwarts when they had never done magic before, but I had changed my mind by the time I'd written the third book."
Posted by Goff Morgan from Wales UK on July 30, 2007 12:14 PM
Thanks to everyone in regards to my questions about the potion refilling in the basin and Colin Creevey! Maybe he did have a magical relative and that was enough for the Eaters, or maybe he answered the summons of the DA's enchanted coins! Remember, every Muggleborn had to go to the ministry to prove that they did have some magical blood or something along those lines! (I don't have the book in front of me, sorry!).
And, Diantha from Noord-Holland, you're not mad, I too have read every comment on this topic, just to remind myself that the magic of Harry Potter still lives! And also it ensures that I don't ask questions that have already been answered.
To everyone who is wondering about why some spells break when the caster s and some do not; maybe it is do with the time period that the spell is meant to last for. When Dumbledore immobilised Harry in HBP, it was just a temporary thing, but protective spells aren't temporary so they don't wear off. This might sound a bit confusing, and I know it's not the answer, it's all I can come up with now!
Regarding the Elder wand: Harry MENDED his holly and phoenix feather wand with it, so it is likely he would use that one. Therefore, the power of the Elder wand can't be taken from him. Correct me if I'm wrong please!
Posted by Rashida from Northants, England on July 30, 2007 1:26 PM
Okay. I have now read through the 60 some pages of comments and I must say, hem hem Harry Potter fans! Have you been paying attention for the last ten years? JK ties this up so darned well and she does answer almost every single question if you were paying attention.
The nasty baby thing was obviously Voldemorts nasty soul . Victoire could only be Bill & Fleurs and Teddy only came to see her off, he is not still at school.
People got stuck on the 2 s thing when knowing full well that there is a war going on and how many of the original order d in that war? Not to mention eaters and muggles alike. This count is 65+ for this tome.
JKR Thank you from the deepest parts of my being. I always be grateful to you for Harry and Hermione and Ron of course. They are all so very grown up and no nonsense. Their priorities are spot on and there really is no room for any light hearted frivolity. They dont even comfort their best friend on the of his beloved pet. It was all tied up fairly neatly and dont forget that Jo is writing an encyclopedia where she can elaborate in greater detail as to who is doing what and where they are now and who and what they all turned into.
So if you are not satisfied now, I do believe that she intends for us to be. Because believe it or not if we are having survivors remorse, imagine how she feels. She is not letting go any easier than we are. The loss of so many that we cared about rankle, and we all have our mixed feelings about how they d and why, But the ly Hallows is one of the best books ever written and I mean for all time no matter who the writer is. I though that nothing would top OoTP but thank Merlin I was wrong! I have read the book 3 times now (the 1st weekend) I could not pout it down, and I am about to start again. I feel like I have been turned into a Horcrux and my soul has been ripped out.
Fred still breaks my heart, because i can see him and his unseeing eyes and that just shakes me to the core. I was lucky enough to be in Hogwarts Square (Harvard Square) the night of book release watching the Potters and Malfoys Wiz Wrock out along all of the thousands of Wizards and witches that were out that night. There was a moment when the Harry Potter Alliance asked us all to raise our wands and shout out "EXPECTO PATRONUM" To banish evil in our world and it be one of the high points of my life.
I thoroughly enjoy hearing about the Potter generation who "grew up" with these books but as an adult they have encompassed my mid 30s to mid 40s! And a more poignant tale I could not have asked for. My heart is forever in Hogsmeade and I spend my declining years as a Hogwarts alumni. A Gryffindor who proudly wear the colours and live the motto with pride. And it's Hermione Jane not Hermione Jean. Pay attention! reread to your heart's content. I know that I IU am starting my 4th now and I know that whenever I need shoring up in this muggle world I have but to reach for Harry. He always sustain me.
I open at the close
Posted by Edy Threequidd from Waltham MA USa on July 30, 2007 1:48 PM
I didn't like the idea that Voldemort and Harry, both are Perevell descendants, and obviously both are descendants from Salazar Slytherin. How weird, I always suposed that Harry was from Griffindor's linage...
A question: Harry actually d? No way, he was in a "limbo" or something like that, remember Dumbledore telling him that he could take the train if he really wanted. But how did he get there? Voldemort's soul was unstable because of the horcruxes and his "contaminated" blood? I remember that when Harry came back, Voldemort has been in the floor too. Perhaps the annoying creature in "king's Cross" was Voldemort, and both were at the same time in the same place? I mean, Harry's soul was not corrupted, so he shows there as he is, on the other hand Voldemort's soul was so corrupted that he could be only an awfull deformed creature there.
I never read as quickly as this one, and I don't believe there wouldn't be more books (ahh yeah, there are two movies to come).
Posted by Go Snape Go from argentina on July 30, 2007 2:38 PM
Prongs � Yes, there would be a portrait of Snape in the headmaster�s office. Rowling just didn�t explicitly tell us. As for Umbridge: Hogwarts never accepted her as headmaster, therefore I�m sure there is no portrait of her. However, Hogwarts did accepted Snape as headmaster. (Remember, she could not enter the headmaster�s office and Snape could). Also, Harry could not have told Albus Severus he was named for 2 headmasters if Snape was not an �appropriate� headmaster.
Posted by Looney from CA on July 30, 2007 2:51 PM
i think that the cat lily refers to as belonging to her and james in the letter to sirius in book 7 is crookshanks, and that that's how crookshanks knew in book 3 not to trust scabbers/peter/wormtail. the witch in book 3 in the magical apothecary mentions how long he's been there.
Posted by Mackenzie from New York, New York on July 30, 2007 3:09 PM
the thing that i dont get is why lestrange had in her vault at gringotts the cup-horcrux... i cannot imagine why voldemort would reveal something so important to her or even ask her to keep it. i think that even snape who was his most trastful did not know about horcrux... can anyone please give me an answer to this?
Posted by george from new york on July 30, 2007 3:11 PM
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