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The Aftermath: We were all correct
by David Haber
Sometime a week before Book 7 came out, someone commented that Harry would die, but then come back. I think most everyone on the site thought it was a silly idea. But I told several people at that time that I thought that just might be the perfect solution, although I couldn't figure out how J.K. could make it work. J.K. did, of course! So, the half of the Harry Potter fans in the world who thought Harry would die were right! And the other half who thought he would live were also right!
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how come Draco Malfoy never went to azkaban for being a eater after voldemort was ed?
Posted by Snapes Fan from Eire on July 28, 2007 06:41 AM
I know it's not much, but I just recognised the scene on the US cover (slower, perhaps, than many of you). It IS the scene at the end, of Voldemort's , when Harry has just disarmed him and is reaching up to catch (with his Snitch-catching Seeker reflexes) the Elder Wand. I was confused, at first, at the open sky, but isn't that the great magic of the Great Hall, that the roof is bewitched to resemble the sky? And wasn't, at the moment those two fateful spells were cast, the sun rising and casting its fiery light over everything?
Posted by Tom from Melbourne, Victoria on July 28, 2007 06:59 AM
who says its over? the end of its just the next adventure. i'm sure one day in the future jk come back to it. that epilogue to me juust doesn't read like an ending just an interlude, a precurser to a future act. i could be wrong.
thanks looney from ca i thought i might have the brothers the wrong way around lol but makes sense.
Posted by ginny from london on July 28, 2007 07:06 AM
I'm really disappointed in book 7. Though some scenes work really well on an emotional level it's so obvious that the book lacked a developed concept and connection with the previous books. To me it looked like a rushed work.
She developed so many characters and places which should have come together in book 7 but if you look closer she almost disused/ed everything which she developed in book 5 and other books. She makes a lot lazy decisions with the prime example of Snape. If you look really close there's no real logical plan behind this character in the end. That he could give him some memories in the end was pure luck. No interaction between Snape and Harry himself which would have needed a real polished argument/situation but instead he just gets memories which were already the really weak side of Book 6. Who doesn't skip these chapters where Harry and Dumbledore visit the Penseive on reread? One read was enough as it's just a passive info dump from the expose.
And now about Snape giving him the sword, also pure luck. The only reason for that scene was to tell about his pratonus.
How has Aberforth got the mirror actually? Imho a really weak resolution about the mirrors.
Let's look at Lupin, he felt very out of character to me and in the end he was just thrown away as a character. Tonks itself has almost no role either.
She has promised somebody would do magic surprisingly at old age but there wasn't such scene either. She also promised Harry would get another pet but I don't really regard the dragon as another pet.
Nothing about the veil and the room of love either and the almost not mentioning of the short trip of ron/hermione into the champer of secrets was so lazy. Dumbledore told Harry that after the Horcruxes are finished Voldemort would still be an exceptional powerful wizard but Harry did no training for the last duel either. Does that make sense at all expecially after the end of book 6 with the Snape duel?
I expected a lot deeper interaction between Snape and Harry with Snape maybe ing the snake at the end as he was positioned as the closest to Voldemort. That would have made sense.
I also expected more from the rat, the resolution of the was weak.
I also expected a lot more from the Malfoys, it just didn't felt right.
Another underused character was Bellatrix.
There are so many disappointed expectations with the book that i regard some fan fiction as far better developed.
In total my impression is that she just wanted to get rid of the obligation and did some quick job. Really disappointing and sad.
Posted by Ralph from Germany on July 28, 2007 07:55 AM
This is a reply to Eilan from London. While I agree that Rowling is a fantastic storyteller, I highly doubt her work be stud anywhere near as much as the Bard. Furthermore, you ask what you should do now that it over: Try reading Shakespeare. Then you'll realize why he is Rowling's favorite.
Posted by Rebel Phoenix from Boston, MA on July 28, 2007 08:33 AM
Why did she more than one character? Why did she Snape?
Posted by Jonah on July 28, 2007 08:58 AM
Ralph from Germany: I couldn't agree more. Snape's end seems very rushed. A contrived ending to get the info of his past to Harry.
Furthermore, she promised a bigger role for Petunia. Was that her side-kick role to Lily in Snape's memory? Or her second glance back at Harry before she leaves him? Weak. This along with your point on Harry's new pet and someone doing magic at an old age both lead me to assume she made some drastic changes to her storyline.
The biggest issue with Aberforth is not only how he got the mirror, but how did he send Dobby?
Someone needs to answer how Snape s Dumbledore when he is not an evil character. If the ing curses can be cast upon loved ones (and clearly Snape respects and loves Dumbledore) does this not undermine having to MEAN ly curses. Furthermore, how is Dumbledore in this limbo- world with Harry (other than a convenient way to expose back-story to the aunce without bringing back Dumbledore). Why not have Harry's parents and Sirius there too?
Posted by Rebel Phoenix from Boston, MA on July 28, 2007 11:10 AM
Hmmm, a lot of people do not see the point in Snape's . I see two reasons, and it could be one or the other, or both:
1) She did not feel as sorry for him at the end as all of us did. In her interview, when someone called him a hero, she said, "Is he?" and went on to say that he was still a bully and nasty and that he would not have cared about Harry if it were not for Lily.
2) She actually feels EXTREMELY sorry for Snape, and, thus, did him a FAVOR by ending his horrible life. Dumbledore always said there were things worse than , and I believe someone on this very site suggested that losing the ones you love and being alive could be one of those things. We know there is an afterlife in Harry Potter, J.K. Rowling has numerous places in her books that indicate as much, and Snape, being redeemed for his good deeds and his ability to love, undoubtedly have a better afterlife than his physical life.
Oh, I could also see another reason: I think J.K. Rowling did not want us to realize Snape was good until the very last moment. It was more shocking to find out in the way we did, and it was kind of interesting: the moment we see him say, "Take.... it... Take... it..." we have a whole new line of questions... what is he talking about?! WHAT IS GOING ON? Y'know? And then, "Look.... at..... me......" and by this time, we (or, at least, I) exclaim, "He is good! I knew it! I knew it!"
Now, would it have been nearly as exciting if we just watched him in a room with Harry, saying, "Potter, I am actually good and you better believe me, here, look at my memories!"? Would we have even bought it? Probably not. Obviously it would not be worded that way, but what would it have taken for us, and more importantly, Harry, to believe him?
I have had thoughts of Snape surviving and Harry running into him in the headmaster's office, and I even go so far as to have Harry run up and hug him, with Snape looking like he would like nothing more than for Harry to get away from him at once, but then finally giving in at the last moment. Part of me wishes he were alive and received endless praise and love from Harry and others, but, in the end, the one thing we must grasp is that Snape would have rather been -- remember, in the Pensieve, what he said to Dumbledore when he found out Lily d? "I wish *I* were ..."
His purpose was to avenge Lily's . Dumbledore gave him that purpose and he spent the rest of his life being careful to fulfill it. He clung onto life after Nagini choked him because he was terrified that he was about to fail his life's mission (although, I do wonder sometimes whether he can sense peoples' presence), and then Harry suddenly showed up... and after the memory is safe in a flask, he looks at Harry's (Lily's) eyes one last time and finally lets go of life.
It is actually quite a happy moment, in a way... y'know?
Posted by Katie T from California on July 28, 2007 11:15 AM
The last two movies are special to all of us and must have the Dudley goodbye, Lilly James Sirius and Lupin in the forrest, Snape in the shreaking shack but I bet they have him say Lilly as he s.Dobby and the burial. There are so many heartbreaking events in this book, I would feel silly if I didn't know other people are sitting there with tears rolling down their cheeks because they felt so much affection for charactors in a book.
Posted by jeannette from Simi Valley California on July 28, 2007 11:23 AM
To Rebel Phoenix- Re your comment about Dumbledore being uncaring about the probability of Harry's : Dumbledore smiled when he heard about Voldemort's drinking Harry's blood in GOF, because it meant that as long a Voldemort lived, he "housed" some of Lily's powerful protection of Harry within himself. This meant that in the upcoming duel, whenever that would occur, between Harry and Voldemort, Harry should be able to survive. Hope this improves your impression of Dumbledore!
With so many pages of response in place, I'm afraid some responders aren't reading some of the really good explanations of continuing questions that have been offered between pages 1 and 63. Read them--you may enjoy them!
Posted by Alice from Milton, DE on July 28, 2007 11:27 AM
To Jemmi of Melbourne - "Remember my first...." refers to the first letter to Petunia--the one Dumbledore left with 1 year old Harry on the doorstop. The howler, the communications that refers to the "first," was the second.
Posted by Alice from Milton, DE on July 28, 2007 11:43 AM
Another question: Who fills up the potion in the cave with the locket horcrux? I mean Regalus drinks the potion and s, and Kreacher replaces the real horcrux with a fake one. Who makes that new potion and why? Seeing that it was a potion designed to keep people away from the horcrux, why would Regalus replace the potion (not to mention when would he have had time?) His orders to Kreacher are to replace the locket with the fake one and destroy the real one. Kreacher then watches his master in the water by the Inferi. My question is how is there potion in the cup when Dumbledore and Harry get there?
Posted by Rebel Phoenix from Boston, MA on July 28, 2007 12:44 PM
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