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The Aftermath: We were all correct
by David Haber
Sometime a week before Book 7 came out, someone commented that Harry would die, but then come back. I think most everyone on the site thought it was a silly idea. But I told several people at that time that I thought that just might be the perfect solution, although I couldn't figure out how J.K. could make it work. J.K. did, of course! So, the half of the Harry Potter fans in the world who thought Harry would die were right! And the other half who thought he would live were also right!
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If Voldemort didn't have a piece of soul in himself, then Harry and Nagini would be his last Horcruxes. This means that when Nagini was ed Voldemort would have d.
Posted by Will from London on July 27, 2007 06:26 AM
I have a few questions too.
Did any other eaters survive, besides Draco's family?
What happened to Bellatrix?
R.I.P.: -Nicolas & his wife (Perenelle) -Frank Bryce
-Lily & James Potter -Cederic Diggory -Hedwig
-Tonks -Lupin -Fred -Sirius Black -Severus Snape
-Made−Eye Moody -Dobby “the house-elf”
-Regulus Arcturus Black -Albus Dumbledore
Posted by Elessa on July 27, 2007 06:44 AM
Venkat-Perhaps Harry marked the spot to return at a later time to properly rebury the eye in a marked grave. This is all that we know to be left of Mad-Eye. I only gathered that to be the case by Harry's act of marking the spot.
I believe that in HBP Dumbledore answered the question about would Voldemort feel pain upon the destruction of a horcrux. I remember he theorized that Voldemort was so detached from them that Voldemort would not necessarily notice their destruction until the end. Notice, Voldemort gets knocked on his bum when he blast the fragment of his soul out of Harry and he's in the room when the snake is destroyed. Then again, these are the only two horcruxes that he is present for the destruction of, so we could even hypothesize that you must be present for the destruction of a horcrux to feel anything at all.
I would not put too much stock in an old folk song. Two practices that have gone by the wayside in the West were cutting locks of hair from our and creating jewelry to remember them by and even photographing the to keep their image as a keepsake. Both of these practices would seem a violation of our deceased today.
Wand snapping may have been common practice at one time. We don't know if all wands were buried with the . Perhaps it had become custom to do so? Remember Ron's first wand had belonged to one of his brothers. That wand could have been handed down by a previous relative for all we know. I would not stress over the significance of whether or not wands are still snapped in two or buried with the .
Remember what Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is only a cigar."
Posted by Laurie from Durham, NC on July 27, 2007 07:39 AM
An open letter to Dave Haber:
Dave, I just wanted to say thank you for giving all Harry Potter fans a place to express ourselves, discuss with others, vent when needed, find answers or just get help with our grief (or denial) over losing our beloved characters. I truly hope that since Harry Potter books are now at an end (hopefully someday there be more) that you continue this site for years to come because Harry Potter mania never . It be passed down for generations to come. I love that this site is somewhere that children and adults alike can come together.
That being said I have to say and I'm sure others agree that to a certain extent you remind me very much of Albus Dumbeldore! Granted I don't know if you have any skeletons in your closet like Dumbeldore did, that's not what I mean. I mean....you know what I really don't know how to express what I mean, you just remind me of Dumbeldore....fair minded, generous, considerate and open minded to giving everyone their say so. You're very kind to us and tell us when you need to change our remarks for some reason....you include us in your life and have dedicated yourself and your time to teaching us and letting us come to our own conclusions about what you think and you've been wise in your opinions....basically your the dad to everyone who posts here. Still all I've just said doesn't even really express what I'm trying to say but hopefully it shows my appreciation and somewhat describes how I think you resemble Dumbledore. You've given us all so much and we can never repay you with any more than a HUGE THANK YOU!
So... THANK YOU!
Posted by sm on July 27, 2007 07:42 AM
I cannot say how touched I was to read this post. Thanks, sm! Obviously, I couldn't have done it all without all of you, so I raise my glass to all of you reading!
As for running this site for "years to come", it is my plan to keep this site around for as long as there is something Potterish to talk about that. Hmm... this site may have its own epilogue in 19 years...
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on July 27, 2007 07:48 AM
Regarding the Elder Wand: When Voldemort got the wand from the tomb, he thought he became it's master, but he was wrong. Then he realized that since Snape ed D. he was probably its master & ed ("defeated") Snape; but he was still wrong: Since Snape did the ing on D.'s orders, he had not actually "defeated" him. Dumbledore was "defeated" by Draco when he was disarmed, but no one understood the consequences of that except D. himself. Therefore, his wand was buried with him (probably on his own instructions). Later Harry "defeated" Draco by disarming him and thus became the master of the Elder Wand, but without either of them actually having touched the Elder Wand at that point. When he defeated Voldemort, Harry confirmed his mastery and finally got his hands on the Elder Wand for the first time as its master. His goal is to remain undefeated until he s and part of the way he plans to achieve that is to not use the Elder Wand, but to put it back in Dumbledore's Tomb.
Posted by Beatrice from Abilene on July 27, 2007 09:34 AM
one thing I thought would have been brought up against Voldy was that in the quest for "pureblood" witches and wizards, was that he himself was a "halfblood". It was never brought up though. Also, if Harry is an Auror and he loses a duel or is disarmed, then the Elder Wand would go to that person, and who's to say he/she won't seek it out? I mean, this story is pretty famous in the wizard world is it not?
Posted by Boosnake from Rayne,LA on July 27, 2007 09:41 AM
I think, out of all the characters in the HP series, Snape is probably the best of all. He shows how "human" you can be in a fiction as well as in real life. He hated Harry for his resemblance to his father, yet he is Lily's, his great love, son. He's constantly under conflicts, good and bad, love and hate, loyal and betrayal. Remember in his memories in the pensieve, he told Dumbledore "never to tell anyone, it's between you and me". Dumbledore said "Never to tell the best of you?" Snape wouldn't want Harry to know his feelings to Lily, so he can keep loathing Harry for who he resembled. Snape is so real to me I even love the actor who played him in the film.
As for Harry, he tends to lose his temper a lot, especially towards his best friends. He's the pure of heart of course, but isn't it too "pure"? I mean, imagine someone who has grown up being neglected all the time, would he crave for some sense of belonging, importance and honor at times? He didn't know his parents at all before school, would anyone develop such a strong feelings towards the parents he never actually knows? Dumbledore may have taught him between choices, but he has to acknowledge the choices himself. So it must be the friends he hang out with. There goes to Ron, Hermione and mostly the Weasley families. I think Harry grows up to be what he is, is largely because of the Weasleys who show him what's right and what's wrong. Hence, no offends to all the HP fan, I don't really like this character at all.
For Hermione, she's always such a "know it all" that annoys me. She can't deal with the fact that Harry beat her in potion in HBP, she is mad at Ron out of jealousy when he went out with Lavender. She just can't take no for an answer. However, she's loyal and courageous. As Hagrid has said, she had got her heart in the right place. That makes her more "real" than Harry.
Ron, on the other hand, is an ordinary guy who is always overshadowed by his brothers and Harry. Yet, he stays true and loyal to the very end. He may have times of doubts (in GoF and DH), but that made him more believable. He and Hermione makes total sense because one is so objective while the other is so bossy. Don't we see it all the time around us? (There to those who thought Ron is not worthy enough for Hermione.)
Still, I have re-read all the books for at least 10 times, I still think JK has created a wonderful world of imaginations, which we all crave at some point in our lives.
Thank you Jk and also David for creating this site. It's fantastic.
Posted by Fiona on July 27, 2007 09:57 AM
Here's some short answers to questions I see popping up as I skim the comments on Book 7:
Regarding why the Elder wand did not backfire on Voldemort the first time he used it on Harry in the forest: Instead of backfiring on the visible body of Voldemort it instead attacked his Horcrux that was in Harry. That's why Harry DID NOT DIE - because the Horcrux was attacked, not Harry.
When Longbottom ed Nagini, "Voldemort's mouth was open in a scream of fury" NOT a scream of pain. He was furious that yet another horcrux had been destroyed NOT in pain.
The reason Harry urges Voldemort to "try for some remorse" before he s is because Harry knows that Tom Riddle's soul can still be saved even in his final moments if he'll just repent. Harry says "I've seen what you'll be otherwise" which answers the question of what that pitiful thing at Kings Cross was.
I am really bothered by a comment I saw regarding Colin Creevey who d in the battle at Hogwarts. Why was he still at Hogwarts when he was Muggle born, right? I may have missed a plausible explanation but if anyone could shoot another one out I'd appreciate it!
Posted by BNICKEL from Batavia, IL on July 27, 2007 11:07 AM
My fav part, is when Harry calls Vodldy Tom...that was awesome
Posted by Slimy from Ottawa, Ontario on July 27, 2007 11:29 AM
I second that motion SM...'ear 'ear David!
Posted by jonwash on July 27, 2007 11:37 AM
Will from London,
I'm still not totally convinced Voldy couldn't live (in a very minimal sense) without his soul. Doesn't he lose the piece of his sould that was in Harry at the moment in the forest where they are both 'knocked out'? By my count (and my probably flawed argument) that only leaves a piece in Nagini and it's not very soon after Nagini s that Voldy bites the bullet.
And once again, Dave Haber, I second the emotion of sm!
Posted by Rickie from Illinois on July 27, 2007 11:45 AM
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