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The Aftermath: We were all correct

by David Haber

Sometime a week before Book 7 came out, someone commented that Harry would die, but then come back. I think most everyone on the site thought it was a silly idea. But I told several people at that time that I thought that just might be the perfect solution, although I couldn't figure out how J.K. could make it work. J.K. did, of course! So, the half of the Harry Potter fans in the world who thought Harry would die were right! And the other half who thought he would live were also right!

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i wonder who godmother to teddy was? why didnt harry do a bit more than look at lupin? i found that wierd, lupin had been a big part of his life too, but he didnt say anything... i knew tonks would , she kept looking for him....
me and my son were talking about the computer game for DHs(as he was playing OotP)and we hope we get to play mrs. weasley that would be so good.. i just finished reading it again and cried again over dobby... but want to read it again. am i being sad?

Posted by draco lover from England on July 24, 2007 2:59 PM

I find that this book very complete and not only every characters in the book but even JK has rushed to complete the series with this book. I can think of lot of lost costs and confusions in the book.

1) In 'King cross' chapter, dumbledore explains harry that why he has not been ed(in previous chapter) even after Voldy performed 'Avada Kedavra' on harry and just ed the voldy's soul in him. He mentions that voldy has got lily's blood in him! My immediate thought was, 'So wat?'. I don't know how does it matters! Harry has already come off age and lily's blood protection had already worn out! I wished this part was explained more.
2) In book 7, When Voldy performed 'Avada Kedavra' on Harry, it was told that it didn't harry but just ed voldy's soul in him. It didn't make any sense coz in the last duel, it seems clearly that 'Elder wand' was harry's and that's why Voldy 'Avada kedavra' back fired on him and ed him immediately. But we all know that even when Voldy performed AK previously(in forest), harry was the true master of the 'Elder wand'(coz he had already snatched Draco's wand well before that) still why did the 'Elder wand' performed the spell? Does it have special powers sense voldy's soul present inside harry?
3) The way JK ed snape was rather pathetic than being symphatetic! After showing snape as one of the most accomplished wizard who had invented his own spell and all, it was not convincing to see him ed defenseless(without even doing a spell), that too, by nagini! Afterall, he could atleast have done some 'Sectumsempra' spell! He didn't even know that harry was there, if harry wasn't there then he would never have got chance to tell harry that he is an horcrux!
4) At same shrieking shack, when Voldy tried to snape with his wand, the wand didn't respond. Only then Voldy tells nagini to snape. Explanation given was, that snape was the master of 'Elder wand' so it didn't resond to ing it's master. it was convincing at this point; but later it was revealed that harry is the true master of the 'Elder wand'. So is there any explanation why the wand didn't snape?

I have lot of such doubts, as of now I'm reading the book carefully again, update them once I'm done with it.

Posted by Praveen from Atlanta on July 24, 2007 3:06 PM

Dumbledore was just THAT powerful, he could beat Voldemort in a duel using a match stick to cast spells hehe.
But i have some questions now and would really like some answered, like:
1.) why did dumbledore have the cloak at james/lilys ?
2.) so what really took place in dumbledores house after his mother d?
3.) what happened to hermoine's parents? i think she purposely left them in australia, thinking they would all be happier not remembering each other?
4.) where do the durselys finally go and do they all stay there?
5.) did we figure out what that septology symbol was?
6.) why hadnt dumbledore told harry anything about himself?

Posted by dvin from Glendale, CA on July 24, 2007 3:08 PM

Marjorie; CDoesburg: I doubt that just any house elf would have been able to break Harry et al. out of the Malfoy's prison. As Marjorie noted, however, Dobby used to be the Malfoy's servant. Even if the Malfoys had enchanted their house to protect it from other house elves (likely), they would have made exceptions for their servants. Given that they regarded Dobby as beneath notice once he was freed, it is hardly inconveivable that they would forget to revoke his access.

Clever bit of plot figuring by Ms. Rowling, I think.

Posted by supercat from Naperville IL on July 24, 2007 3:11 PM

1 last question, so all this talk of harry having lilys eyes, what did that have to do with anything in the end?

Posted by dvin from glendale, CA on July 24, 2007 3:20 PM

I just read JK's interview on 'Today' I think and apparently it was Mr Weasley who was meant to but who had a reprieve. Wow, imagine Arthur, . I just can't, really I can't, but then again I couldn't imagine Fred going either...

Posted by Marjorie from New Zealand on July 24, 2007 3:24 PM

I know this is probably going to sound rather pathetic, but it's the truth; I am really going to miss the characters. I've grown rather attached to them over the past... 8 years or so. I feel lonely and a little empty now that they're all gone forever.

Luna was one of my favorites, and through the book, one of the most prominent thoughts in my mind was "Please let Luna survive" and I was happy at the end when she was still there.

But overall, I think the book was the best out of all of them, and I'm sad that it had to be the last.

Posted by Mongoose from Santa Barbara, California on July 24, 2007 3:33 PM

well..about harry and voldi. here's what I think.

When voldermort directs the ing curse on Harry, that curse cannot affect harry's soul because it is protected by his mother's enchantment, which is also in voldermort. But lily's protection was only for harry's whole soul, not that extra soul of voldermort that wedged onto harry after she d. So, that horcrux of voldermort is not protected. So, when Voldermort does the AV, it s that horcrux and leaves harry whole. What I did not understand was why Voldermort becomes unconscious too because if all he did was another of his horcruxes, this shouldn't have affected him that way when later, Nagini's ing (the similarity being both horcruxes residing in a living being) did not affect him.

Now, coming to the wand duel...Harry warns Voldemort that he has seen how it would be (that ugly baby in king's cross being the horcrux that was in harry).

The story of the elder wand is, because grindelwald stole the wand from Gregorovitch, he was never the rightful master, so dumbledore was able to beat him in the duel. Since malfoy beat dumbledore's wand in HBP, he becomes the master now. And since in a seperate event, harry was able to beat malfoy and possess malfoy's wand, the power that malfoy had as being the elder wand's master passes to harry.
So, at the end, in the wand duel, the elder wand cannot perform correctly against its own master, who is now whole. Because previously the AV worked on Voldemort's horcurx in harry as that part wasnt the elder wand's master. So that hrcurx was destroyed.
but this time, voldi's AV curse back fires and he himself s and harry is able to voldemort without using the ing curse which would have affected his soul as a ing curse is ought to do. So, he, rather his soul remains pristine and pure.

Does this make sense to any one or do you think I am spouting nonsense.

PS: Thnx once again Dave for an awesome website. I def. owe my sanity to you.

Posted by Rt from Norman, OK on July 24, 2007 3:38 PM

Who is this "Victoire" carl from birmingham is right it probably is bill and phlegm's daughter. how did lupin and tonks ? why did fred have to ? i was surprised moody d, he seemed very tough, but if you're being dropped off a broom stick 1000 feet above the ground toughness is the least of his worries. I cannot believe mrs. weasley (molly, by now there are probably quite a few of them) said the "b" word!

Posted by Abby from johnstown,PA on July 24, 2007 3:41 PM

I think it must be said that its unbelievable that JK Rowling managed to make a 7th book that was as good as this serie deserved. I did not thought that was possible.

About the people complaining about the end: I think the last chapter was nice, a little predictable maybe but thats not really a problem for me. But common, you can't expect to get ALL the answers to every little storyline in the books. Yes, it might be nice to now what became of Luna Lovegood, or what job Harry has now, or maybe even if he still wears dobby's -about 25 year old- funny socks. But who really cares? If all the details would have been said it would make a whole new book. Use your imagination, thats the thing about a good book. For me this a satisfying end of this beautiful serie. JK Rowling thnx for enteraining me and so many others with this classics.

Posted by Tim from Netherlands on July 24, 2007 3:44 PM

To all you who says that Voldemorts ing curse Rebounds in the end because Harry is the true master.
Harry IS NOT the true owner of the elder wand! (Atleast no one has explained it yet in a satisfying way)

My argument goes:
"Dumbledore was able to beat Grindelwald because he wasn't the true owner of the elder wand (since Grindelwald stole it).
So when Dumbledore gets the elder wand he is in fact NOT it's true owner.

And if Dumbledore never becomes the true owner, then Malfoy never "beat" the true owner - he just beat Dumbledore.
And so when Harry beats Malfoy he does not become the new owner since Malfoy was never the true owner!

And I doubt that even a wizard as powerfull as Dumbledore could sway the elder wand so he could become the true owner - without "winning" against the last true owner, to support this lets look at the ending of the book, here we have a diaglog between Harry and Dumbledores portrait where Harry intends to render the elder wand useless by of Age, which Dumbledore aggrees make it impossible for anyone else to become the true owner.

BTW in answer to a previous question about the uniqueness of the summoned creature from a patronus. It is my belief that a patronus while not 100% unique it very characteristic . When you summon a patronus you dont choose which animal or how it look your emotions and feelings do.
So Ron for instance wouldn't be able to summon a stag that looks like Harry's. It does however make perfect sense when you take into consideration just how deeply Snape loves Lily that his patronus would be a Doe.

That was quite a bit, I would really appreciate if anyone would like to comment on any of the above written.

Posted by Alyflex on July 24, 2007 3:45 PM

Jerry - I think the general consensus here is that the wand did not work for Grindewald because he stole it and was not recognized as its true owner, (as in the case with Voldy) so it did not perform special magic for him. As he and Dumbledore were equals anyway, the better man won the duel.

Jeremy - I think Bellatrix is quite arrogant and egotistical, like Voldemort, so she probably wanted to put on a show, enjoy the , intended to torture Molly before ing her in front of everyone...which kinda backfired!

Thanks Katie for your post, I had forgotten about Voldy's immediate Cruciatus and Harry not feeling pain, as you say, prob a result of the Elder Wand again, which reinforces are theories about it.

Posted by Andi from England on July 24, 2007 4:00 PM

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