Snape Clues
 by David Haber
 These are the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Snape is not really a Death Eater, has remained loyal to Dumbledore, and all through the book, Snape is working on Dumbledore's Orders.
 > Read the full articlePages: << < 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 ... > >> Reader Comments: (Page 26) Raow, I really LOVE the idea that Snape's mother might have married the muggle on the rebound from Tom Riddle! Maybe he even used her to find out about Horcruxes, she evidentally taught Snape a lot about dark magic, since he showed up at Hogwarts knowing so much of it. It doesn't seem to be a stretch that she could have known about Horcruxes. No doubt she would have been in the same house with Tom Riddle.
I don't know about it being a marriage of conveniene with Narcissa though, remember, she gets very defensive of Lucius in Spinners End the chapter. I see her choosing him over Snape, since he has more money etc, and she sure wasn't going to get blotted off of the family tree to live in that shack.:) Posted by karen from texas on March 9, 2007 11:55 PM
By the way, I just went through the last few chapters of HBP because someone voiced the idea of Malfoy's mission not being to Dumbledore, but to get the Eaters in the castle. In the scene wher Dumbledore, Malfoy, and invisible Harry are on top of the tower, Dumbledore is talking to Malfoy, trying to dissuade him of the mission. Malfoy keeps saying that he has to complete the mission or Voldemort him. So the mission could not have been to get the Eaters in the castle. He already had them in. Posted by Marc Silverman from Arizona on March 12, 2007 05:18 AM
Karen: That would make Snape Voldemort's brother, wouldn't it? That's a great idea, consistent with the Dumbledore/Voldemort symmetry.
Albus Dumbledore has a brother. Voldemort would have a brother also.
Consider that Voldemort's brother is Snape, he was a Eater and isn't a Eater anymore. Would that mean that Aberforth was a member of the Order of the Phoenix, and isn't one anymore? Posted by herve from strasbourg on March 13, 2007 10:32 AM
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I think the idea of Tom Riddle/Voldemort having a girlfriend at one point is probably a null theory. Dumbledore has pointed out many times that Tom Riddle/Voldemort is incapable of love. Period. To have a girlfriend he would have to be concerned with someone other than himself, and I don't see this happening or supported. All the while Tom Riddle is at Hogwarts he is concerned with one thing: how can Tom Riddle gain knowledge and power as a wizard. His greed would negate any possibility of caring for someone else. JKR has put plenty of references to Hogwarts students that are capable of boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. None for Tom Riddle. Voldemort is the epitomy of the current generation of Americans...me, me, me.
A different way around the vengeful Snape theory would be to consider if Snape and Lily were related. We see a nice picture of the House of Black family tree, what about Snape's? Maybe Eileen Prince and Lily were related, and she had Lilys' and Harrys' eyes too. Harry reminds Snape of his own mother, whose eyes he did not inherit. How could you cast an evil spell on someone with your own mother's eyes looking back at you? Posted by Dave Porter from New Mexico, USA on March 13, 2007 9:01 PM
About Voldemort not having a girlfriend - while I agree with Dave Porter that Voldemort is highly unlikely ever to have had a girlfriend as most of us would understand it, that is someone you actually CARE about, that's not to say that he wasn't capable of pretending to some affection. Remember, he came across as a real charmer to all the staff except Dumbledore. A plain, homely girl as Eileen Prince is described would be an easy mark for a handsome, popular boy like that. She wouldn't believe her luck. And if she happened to have something he wanted, like extensive knowledge of the Dark Arts, or even horcruxes, then I can't see any reason that young Tom Riddle woudn't use her, exactly as he uses his other so-called friends. So, yes, it could fit in quite well. Posted by Elizabeth from Australia on March 14, 2007 01:12 AM
I don't really see Tom Riddle and Eileen Prince as a "couple". Yes, he seems too self-involved, but I could see Eileen having a crush on him, and possibly having her heart broken. Since we don't know anything about her personality we don't know how far she would have gone to "get" Tom. Would she have used a love potion? Would she go as far as Tom's mother? Hopefully not - but if she did tell her son Snape about her involvement, how would he feel? Posted by Raow from Petaluma, CA, USA on March 14, 2007 6:01 PM
I think we are going to far into Snape's history. You cant judge a person by their parents and who their parents dealt with. Look at Sirius Black. His family consisted of muggle hunters and pure blood fanatics. His parents were proud of Regulus for becoming a eater. But we all know that Sirius had his heart in the right place. He cared for Harry as if Harry was his son and treated him as if they were brother-like, like he and James were. Posted by Marc Silverman from Arizona on March 15, 2007 06:11 AM
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Well, we are looking for a motive for Snape to be a double-agent, and there seem to be only three theories: 1 - he turned to Dumbledore when he discovered he would be responsible for James' after giving Voldemort the information on the prophecy and life- he owed James would boomerang on him in some way. 2 - he turned against Voldemort after discovering information from or about his mother "the only one who ever loved him". 3 - he was involved with Lily and turned to Dumbledore when he found out Voldemort was going to her along with James.
If you don't believe any of those three theories - or there is a totally new reason JKR hasn't even hinted at - then Snape is loyal to Voldemort. It could be that Snape like Sirius, or more like Regulus, felt that Voldemort was going too far in his quest for power and turned against him, but it doesn't really seem in character. I think it is more likely there was an outside force than a change of heart. Especially since he doesn't seem to have a heart! Posted by Raow from Petaluma, CA, USA on March 15, 2007 10:38 AM
Elizabeth,
I agree about the fact that Tom could have used Eileen for her knowlidge of dark arts, however we also have to consider her age to be several years younger than that of Tom.
I agree with some people that Snape really loved Lily and asked Voldemort to spare her, however Voldemort ed her and now Snape wants simple revenge.
I think that harry is the real chosen one, and Snapes great help would be to weaken Voldemort till he is near , and then harry is free to finish him off! Posted by Yash from V�xj�, Sweden on March 15, 2007 1:56 PM
Dave: Interesting idea about Snape and Lily but doesn't it say somewhere in Sorcerer's Stone about the Dursleys being Harry's last blood relatives? Snape and Lily couldn't be related then... Posted by Jennie from Beachwood NJ on March 15, 2007 2:30 PM
another thought with eileen prince and voldemort being a couple. they both are at the same age approximately. we know voldemort is at least 70 (CoS 50 years ago,+ 16 (his age then), + 4 years since then) and that snape would be between 30 and 40 now, most likely to be closer to 40. this concludes that eileen prince would have to have been at least 30 when she met voldemort. but we know that he was voldemort by then and so this is unlikely. thus ruling out that snape and voldemort are brothers. Posted by mikedagr8 from melbourne,victoria on March 15, 2007 3:42 PM
I dont think Snape's mother has anything to do with Snape being good or evil. I think it has to do with Snape's loyalty to Dumbledore. I do think the potions book is from Eileen. She might have made a lot of those spells and revisions. The only dark curse that we know about in that book is Sectemsumpra. Snape might have made that up while he was at schhol. At school, he was enraveled in the dark arts. Posted by Marc Silverman from Arizona on March 15, 2007 9:43 PM
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