Severus Snape v. The Ministry of Magic
by J.K. Rich
After reading Book Six in the Harry Potter saga, millions of Harry Potter fans were devastated to learn that after it all�after all the warnings and signs�Severus Snape is, in fact, evil. And, even more devastating�he had killed Professor Dumbledore right in front of The Boy That Lived. Or did he?
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the part regarding Snape saying no unforgivable curses for you Potter. i think that is typical Snape. he is constantly rubbing it in Harry's face when he cannot perform a certain magical task and he he is doing the same thing here. He's telling Harry that he is too weak and not good enough or magically inclinde enough to be able to use an unforgivable curse. it is much like when Bellatrix Lestrange laughs at Harry in the order of the phoenix
Posted by Kristina on May 7, 2007 11:47 AM
I defer from your statement. I think that Severus is still trying to teach Harry. When Harry is trying to curse and hex severus, Snape easily blocks him, but also mentions that as long as he cannot keep his mouth and mind shut he is vulnerable, or no match for the Dark Lord (I don't remember the exact quote).
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 7, 2007 2:34 PM
All these theories are terrific excpet for a few that i disagree with. Someone said that Dumbledore said that is but the next great adventure. So people think that he might have a horcrux and come back to life and not be . Or that he might be the pheonix so he come back to life. But there are two points going against this that i think should be specified:
1. If he were a pheonix - he would not be of great help since he is reborn from therefore - a baby. I don't think a baby Dumbledore help very much in the destruction of the Dark Lord.
2. Why would dumbledore come back to life if he d?
He did say in book four or five that the Dark Lords greatest weakness is his fear of mortality. And that's where he's most vulnerable. If he says that his mistake is his fear of ... then why would dumbledore be fearing ? I know he doesn't... probably but if he says that being afraid of is bad... then why would he come back to life?
I personally think that Snape is good and Dumbledore was not ed to start with. Because I don't believe that he was ed, I am saying that he can't return to life.
Posted by Tergel from Albany, NY on May 7, 2007 5:39 PM
good point emilio, afterall snape spent half of HP5 telling harry to close his mind.
Posted by mmc from sa on May 7, 2007 5:55 PM
Didn't Ron receive the watch as a gift when he came of age? I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that it was from his parents.
I have reread the HBP and can see how Snape's comments to Harry at the end could be interpreted in two ways. I have thought that Snape is evil from the beginning. I am starting to wonder now if he really was trying to clue Harry in that he not be able to defeat Voldemort unless he can use the nonverbal spells.
I do think that Dumbledore come back though. My love of the happy ending be shattered otherwise.
Posted by Kim from Manchester on May 7, 2007 6:16 PM
If the phoenix has healing powers, why didn't it heal DD's hand?
Also, I'm really liking that Snape loved Lily theory. If you notice, not once has he ever said anything to Harry about his mother...ever!
Posted by CADELL from ROSWELL, GA on May 7, 2007 8:40 PM
A happy ending would be great, but Harry's life didn't start very well. I assume he'd probably have been in hiding since birth, and when he was 1, his parents were ed by the darkest wizard ever. Not only was that bad enough, but he was raised (if that term can be implied) by the Dursley's, and although he's found brief happiness in the wizarding world, anyone remotely like a parent has cruelly been snatched away from him. While the ing off of Harry Potter would be very cold hearted, I have just realised that Harry's prospects have never been good. However one could argue he has also survived immense tragedy, surely he one last time...
Posted by mmc from sa on May 8, 2007 12:52 AM
Thank you Tergel! You put that puzzle piece together for me.
1. If Dumbledore can come back to life, so can Voldemort.
2. If Voldemort can come back to life..there is no reason for Horcruxes and nothing to fear.
3. If is not a permanent state then the entire plot would fall apart.
The initial HP volume (and 'last chapter') was originally concieved when JKR's Mother was . In fact, unless my memory fails me, her Mother never actually saw the first book published. I have always thought that this coloured the entire series as and dealing with have always been a central issue.
Therefore, Dumbledore can only come back in an 'advisiory form' for a limited amount of help... possibly even to tell Harry that Snape is a good guy. This, other than a bed confession by Snape after Snape saves Harry from Voldemort but s doing it, probably is the only thing Harry would believe. I expect to see Dumbledore through his portrait at Hogwarts, a chocolate frog card or even as a phoenix. However, as a Phoenix he cannot talk and teach... the same would be true of the Mirror of Erised...non verbal only. This actually could be some of the 'problem' with Dumbledore which JKR had... how to have him 'teach' as that would require a portrait which might not be available at enough story locations.
Posted by Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg, Pa on May 8, 2007 08:37 AM
To Jim Bob from Maryland: That last point on your comment could be right. that could be how dumbledore (maybe snape) managed to enter the cave and retreive the horcrux.
Posted by Natalie from Bromsgrove on May 8, 2007 10:36 AM
Cadell, about Snape loved Lily theory, in my opinion i don't think that theory is correct, because in the fifth book, when harry gets "accidentaly" into snape's memory i remember something about sirius and james bothering snape, and lily triying to help him, however he calls her "mudblood" and asks her in a very rude way not to interfere. what makes me think he dosen't liked her very much.
Posted by karen on May 8, 2007 1:53 PM
CADELL from ROSWELL,
Good point! I hadn't thought about why Fawkes didn't or couldn't heal Dumbledore's hand.
There is one comment by Aunt Petunia where she says that she heard "That awfull boy" telling Lily about Dementors, at first I assumed that she was talking about James, but she never refers to him that way, so it very well might be that Severus visited Lily at home.
Remember that Snape is a Half Blood and his house is in a muggle neighborhood, so he must have known how to move on the muggle world.
I read in one of her interview transcripts that at the beginning of the book she made a conscious decision about what magic could and could not do, one of the things that magic COULDN'T do was to bring someone back to life if they where really .
As Voldemort was not really because of his horcruxes he could regain a body and "live" again.
I agree that we see more of Dumbledore, but not a flesh and blood of ghost one. He might be able to help Harry through the portrait in the Headmaster (mistress) office, through memories in the pensive, through stories told to him by members of the order and his own brother Abeforth, as a new being that we have not yet seen, or as a Spirit invoqued through the symbol on the side of book 7 (Hermione has been stu Ancient Runes for ever, and we have not yet seen their use).
Whom do you think help Harry with Oclumency on DH? He defenitly needs a Legimens to teach him, Does anybody feel that it be either Raimus or Abeforth?
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 8, 2007 3:16 PM
I think that Dumbledore is not ; that it was a "staged" that only two or three people knew about. Snape, Dumbledore and another person whom i don't know who it is, but i know it has to be another person.
My theory is that Snape said AK, but didn't mean it and did something else to him. Then, Dumbledore fell out the window, but since i think this was staged, there was a person outside the tower waiting for Dumbledore's fall and slows it down and makes him reach the ground- and makes him look very or replace him by a person who had drunken Polyjuice Potion to look like Dumbledore.
I don't think that Hagrid or Minerva were involved because Hagrid cannot act like Dumbledore is . Maybe Minerva, but she was shocked when she found out he d.
Then, since they don't actually show his body- just wrapped in a bundle- they could have just told Jagrid not to look at it and its magic world everyone- they can bewitch the blanket to light on fire and turn into a marble .
So, I don't believe that Dumbledore is - so he wuldn't be breaking some Major Mother Nature law by coming back to life.
He just didn't to start with.
Posted by tergel from albany, NY on May 8, 2007 4:31 PM
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