New Revelations
by David Haber
On August 2, 2006, at the second night of the Harry, Carrie, and Garp event at Radio City Music Hall in New York City, J.K. Rowling says Dumbledore is . But is that the whole story? How does what J.K. has said relate to all of the clues and theories on this site?
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You're right, Fawkes was very busy that night but I think the work he was doing was to help hold Dumbledore's spirit within Hogwarts, so Dumbledore could further assist Harry from beyond . I think the symbol of the triangle enclosing the circle is somehow related to this, giving Dumbledore a way to stick around without making a horcrux. When his job is done, he pass on beyond . I don't think he have a physical manifestation however. I think it be either as a spirit temporarily held here, similar to being a ghost, or it be a form of communication from beyond .
Voldemort has spent all his energies and powers to prevent . If Dumbledore found a way to physically return from the , what is the difference? Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on May 25, 2007 07:02 AM
Maybe Dumbledore be pulling an "Obiwan" rather than a "Gandolph".
Instead of coming back to life and spearheading an attack on evil forces at Helms Deep, I think Dumbledore may continue to train and advise Harry in less corporial form. Use the Force Harry! Posted by Chris from Laurel, MD on May 25, 2007 11:38 AM
I have had a thought. Dobby said to Harry that if he did not fulfill his mission he would throw himself of the topmost tower right? We also know that he was told to trail Malfoy which he might of and probably failed to do at one point.
Maybe he suggested to take Polyjuice and it was him who was ed? Posted by Sirius Black on May 27, 2007 04:58 AM
if dobby did take the polyjuice potion then wouldn't you think he would pay more attention to harry then ever before? Like leaving harry wet in the cave. it just doesn't add up. Posted by Kevin from arlington Heights, IL on May 29, 2007 07:00 AM
Dumbledore might be a registered animagus because the registered animagus' were of that century, and Dumbledore could be of another century. I also think that Snape did Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders. Posted by Tazkia from England on May 30, 2007 1:04 PM
i found the pages of HBP where malfoy and Dumbledore are on the astronomy tower very interesting
heres why
Dumbledore tells malfoy that he knew it was him who was trying to him with the necklace and poisoned mead, and malfoy wants to know why, if Dumbledore knew, did he not try to stop him.
Dumbledore then says that he tried and that snape had been watching him on his orders, to which malfoy replies "he hasnt been doing your orders, he promised my mother
Dumbledore cuts in and says
"of course that is what he would tell you, but"
well we all know that malfoy is telling the truth here as in the 2nd chapter we see snape make an unbreakable vow with narcissa.
so if Dumbledore thinks that snape is just saying that to malfoy, then surely this proves that Dumbledore got snape wrong and that snape has been lying to Dumbledore. Posted by beki from liverpool, englnd on May 30, 2007 2:19 PM
beki - Interesting thought. I always took the "that's what he would tell you" as being directed toward the "he hasn't been doing your orders", but it is very possible that, judging by the timing, it was directed toward the comment about the Unbreakable Vow. Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on May 31, 2007 06:34 AM
Beki, I would have to read it again. I thought the same way as Monkeeshrines. He told Malfoy that he had made the Vow, but there is more in Snape's attitude that what Malfoy knows (think about Dumbledore and Snape arguing). Posted by herve from strasbourg on June 1, 2007 01:06 AM
monkeeshrines - i thought that at first too, but it didnt make sense to have 'thats what he would tell you' as a reply to 'he hasnt been doing your orders', so its only possible that Dumbledore cut in as malfoy was saying 'he promised my mother'.
Dumbledore must have thought that snape had told malfoy this to try and gain his trust.
but we know it was true from the chapter spinner's end, we also know that harry knows because he followed snape and malfoy at slughorn's christmas party and heard snape mention the unbreakable vow so he knows it was a promise because he asked ron and hermione what an unbreakable vow was.
so i think in the next book we see harry realise what he heard on the tower and know for sure that snape is a eater and always has been and that he was lying to Dumbledore. Posted by beki from liverpool, englnd on June 1, 2007 1:40 PM
But if Snape is a eater and always has been why doesn't he Harry at the end of HBP when he has the chance? Why keep teaching him how to overcome Voldemort to the bitter end? Posted by Joe from England on June 3, 2007 4:02 PM
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joe- i believe snape doesnt harry for several reasons.
firstly he says the dark lord wants harry for himself and if he ignored the dark lord he may get in trouble with him.
secondly im not sure snape is teaching harry at the end, i think he is pointing out his weaknesses to him and showing that if he cant even handle snape, then he has no chance with voldermort, which is a point i also wondered myself, i mean, harry cant even sucessfully attack snape, so what happen against a more powerful wizard?
obviously this is where 'the powers the dark lord knows not' come into play (love).
yet i believe this love be a protection rather than a power (even though in some ways a protection is a power) as Dumbledore tells harry, 'in short, you were protected by your ability to love.' But snape doesnt know about this being in the prophecy as he never heard it all, so i think snape is just saying there is nothing extroadinary about you, you cant even rival me. in other words he is pointing out that he had the advantage to stop harry because harry was too weak to close his mind and he was making harry aware that he was too weak.
thirdly snape knows of the prophecy and part of its content, maybe he wants to see what becomes of this prophecy.
and finally j k rowling said that harry having his mothers eyes was important. i think snape hated james potter because snape was secretly in love with lilly and hated the fact that lilly liked james (even though she thought he had a big head). throughout the books, snape looks at harry from time to time for no reason and jk makes a subtle point of adding it, i think he looks at harry because he has his mothers eyes and they remind him of that (which is why i believe snape doent want to harry himself), but because harry looks like his dad the hate snape felt for james always comes to the front of his mind.
it might seem far-fetched, but everytime i read the books it seems to make sense of snape's behaviour. Posted by beki from liverpool, englnd on June 6, 2007 09:15 AM
in my opinion, Dumbledore cannot be , and Snape cannot be bad because that would make Dumbledore a fool, someone who was painted as being all wise. Also, there would be quite an angry crowd (to say the least) if Dumbledore was made to be a fool in the end as he is loved by so many fans... Posted by i_be_a_fan from bucharest, romania on June 10, 2007 09:57 AM
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