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I would have to take marc's side on this and say that Dumbledore did not someone and so he could not have made a horcrux. It says on the chocolate frog card that Dumbledore defeated the dark wizard Grindelwald, not that he ed him. As a wizard of such upstanding character it would be unlikely he gained his post at Hogwarts and spent no time in Azkaban for ing Grindelwald. Defeating Grindelwald was probably more apprehending him and making him see he had to change his ways. That is also why Dumbledore feels the power of love is more powerful than dark magic. The next time someone interviews JKR, they should ask her how Grindelwald was defeated and what became of him.

Posted by Dave Porter from New Mexico on April 17, 2007 6:36 PM

well if you see things the way i am seeing it JKR wouldn't lie about dumbledore being but why would she leave the clues which state that he may still be alive? my answer is that she said that dumbledore is she didn't say albus dumbledore is .This means that aberforth might be using the polyjuice potion.This also answers why he had that memory in a bottle.

Posted by arjun kapoor from new delhi , india on April 22, 2007 10:33 AM

I would have to say that I don't want to think that Dumbledore is . I really think JKR was lying somehow (although I don't know if that's true) just to keep readers on their feet. Also, to surprise readers when the seventh book comes out. I do think that everything follows from whether or not Snape is good or bad. But at the same time, I think Dumbledore was using Drought of Living , since it's so easy to brew up. It's very possible. The memory in the bottle, in my opinion, was just for safe keeping, or because Dumbledore knew how important it was. It could be, however, a sign that Aberforth was really acting as Dumbledore, but I really don't think that would be the case. I do belive that the whole thing with Snape being good is true, and that he was really thinking "Expelliarmus" when he actually said, "Avada Kadavra." If you think about it, the whole book of HBP is full of non-verbal spells, so this would make sense. As for Harry's invisibilty cloak being a horcrux, I think it's possible, but not probable. I mean, I think James really did give it to Dumbledore for safe keeping, and I do think that it has some level of importance, but I don't think that Dumbledore, Godric Griffindor, or James Potter would make a horcrux. I think it's a little dark for them. I mean, they're supposed to be good, aren't they? And them making horcruxes just wouldn't make sense.

Posted by Becca from Colorado on May 3, 2007 6:50 PM

Guys, look I'm sorry but sometimes you've just got to deal with the of a loved one. I adored Dumbledore he was the most wonderful fictional character I have ever read about and I was devastated when he d but you just have to move on, I too went through denial at his but you've just gotta move on. *SNIFF*

Posted by Siobhan from Brisbane,Australia on May 15, 2007 03:17 AM

I think that, although this may sound weird, in long and complicated ways, Snape is both good and bad.

Posted by becky on May 16, 2007 11:13 AM

We now know for sure that Dumbledore is . I believe that Snape ed him, with Avada Kedavra in front of Harry, but that he did it on Dumbledore's own orders.

Dumbledore's primary goal is to defeat Voldemort. He knows there are only two people who can do that: Harry, or Neville should Voldemort be so foolish to mark him as an equal. Since he can't rely on the latter ever happening, Harry is his best bet. Which means that he needs Harry to Voldemort. Voldemort is an expert with the 'unstoppable' Avada Kedavra. Dumbledore knows many ways to block that, as we saw when he and Voldemort dueled in the Ministry, but he also knows that most of them are beyond Harry's ss (which is part of why he didn't bother trying to teach them to Harry). Harry used to have the ideal defense against Avada Kedavra, the protection provided by Lily's self sacrifice, which not only blocks Avada Kedavra but reflects it back at its caster. If Harry manages to locate and destroy all of Voldemort's horcuxes and then faces him wearing that protection without Voldemort's knowlege, Voldemort almost inevitably himself with his own reflected Avada Kedavra. Which save Harry the mental trauma of having to Voldemort. Lily's protection no longer protects Harry from Voldemort because it was tied to Lily's blood, and Lily's blood, passed through Harry, now flows in Voldemort's veins. So what Dumbledore needs is for some other wizard, who is not a blood relation of Harry (or Voldemort), to sacrifice himself with the intention of saving Harry, to place a second similar protection on Harry, thus making him once more immune to Avada Kedavra, but to do it in a way that does not make Voldemort suspicious that this has happened. Dumbledore is clearly not going to ask anyone else to do this, he'd do it himself. We already know he doesn't fear . So all he has to do is arrange to , in Harry's presence so he can cast the protective magic on him, in a way that does not raise Voldemort's suspicions. What better way than at the hands of one of Voldemort's own Eaters whom Voldemort has sent to him, in circumstances where Voldemort does not know that Harry was in fact present? And if he's going to at the hands of a Eater, who better than Severus Snape? ing Dumbledore is the one thing that could once and for all make Voldemort think Snape wasn't working for Dumbledore. If there's one thing Voldemort understands less than love, it's being ing to for love. Also, if Snape is the Eater who s Dumbledore, he can be trusted not to use the Cruciatus curse or anything that might make it difficult for Dumbledore to do the protective magic on Harry.

So I believe Snape is working against Voldemort, not for him. But I don't believe he's doing it out of the goodness of his heart -- he doesn't have any. I believe his primary motivation is a desire for revenge on Voldemort, because Voldemort ed the one person Snape ever loved: Lily Potter. The fact that Snape had a life to James Potter may also have something to do with it, as well as the obvious fact that Voldemort is dangerous.

Posted by Roger from Santa Cruz, Califiornia on May 16, 2007 2:20 PM

Siobhan - I, too went through the stages of grief when Sirius, who had just become my favorite character, d in Order of the Phoenix. I was prepared for Albus' ; I knew it would be inevitable as soon as she started ing characters she had taken the time to make us care about (Cedric). But it's just no fun not to speculate and debate how a character might get around the "no spell can bring a person back from the " rule.

I love the wording of that. It leaves so many loopholes. It might not be a spell that brings someone back to life. After all, Muggles can do it. CPR, artificial respiration, life support, defibulators... we've got the technology, or "substitue for magic" as Hermione calls it, to technically bring someone back from the . So, if Muggles can do it, why not wizards?

Posted by Monkeeshrines from Orlando Fl on May 16, 2007 4:48 PM

Monkeeshrines,
You bring up good points about technology bringing back life, but this happens in the instant after . I think the soul has not departed the body yet. By the time of Dumbledore's , his soul had gone on.
As someone else commented earlier, if is not permanent, what was the value of Lily's sacrifice?
And what would be the need for horcruxes?

Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on May 18, 2007 07:47 AM

For anyone that said JK said that Dumbledore was , you were only half right. when on the set of order of the phoenix, she said "Dumbledore is giving me a lot of trouble." Daniel Radcliffe responded by saying, "but wait, I thought he was ," then JK said, "yeah, well it's a lot more complex then that..."

That's why I support the theory that Dumbledore created a horcrux when he ed Grindlewald and it's in Fawkes!

Posted by nikki from maine on May 18, 2007 7:09 PM

nikki from maine:
Although I hope you're right, if it is as simple as his being , then she has alot of trouble with those saying he's not! I think she meant he's , as she's stated, but he's still in the story (his portrait).

Posted by mmc from sa, australia on May 19, 2007 6:03 PM

Monkeeshrines, I agreee with you about the loophole. I feel certain that there is one.

And Patty, I have to mention that there was a lot of time between Dumbledore's fall from the tower and his . And Fawkes was working hard. His lament went on for what seemed like hours to me. He may have been that wizarding CPR that Dumbledore needed.

Posted by Heather from NJ on May 21, 2007 6:53 PM

all of you have interesting comments on here but i sometimes wonder if your reading the books properly, people saying Dumbledore's hand was a horcrux is just not convincing and there is no evidence what so ever. also he never got the ring by fighting voldermort or a eater as HBP tells us that he got it from the gaunts house, it was in the wall and protected by enchantments. Dumbledore also says that it was left there by voldermort because he probably couldnt bear to wear it anymore now that it contained a piece of his soul, and he (voldermort) never thought that anyone (meaning Dumbledore) would go there for any reason.

about Dumbledore being a horcrux it seems to have been overlooked that this is a real possibility as he says that just because a wizard doesnt do dark magic doesnt mean he doesnt know how to. i think this is interesting as Dumbledore usually makes it clear that he is against people doing dark magic.

i honestly believe Dumbledore is although i wish he wasnt, i think this because harry needed to loose all the adult figures in his life to make him independant enough to fullfill the prophecy.

Posted by beki from liverpool, englnd on May 24, 2007 6:12 PM

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