by David Haber
On August 2, 2006, at the second night of the Harry, Carrie, and Garp event at Radio City Music Hall in New York City, J.K. Rowling says Dumbledore is . But is that the whole story? How does what J.K. has said relate to all of the clues and theories on this site?
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That is something worth considering...that Dumbledore says about Hagrid "I would trust him with my life" does he also say this about Snape at anytime while defending him?
Posted by Amy from P. Kentucky on February 15, 2007 09:01 AM
Jan-Marie.. Voldemort came back to life via his horcruxes - isn't that obvious or am i missing something? Also i find this speculation regarding the Dumbledore brothers a bit absurd to say the least.. clutching at straws to keep dumbledore alive - even if it was draught of the living , snape's curse would've have done him in and if not that then the fall would have. and also in fudges quote about the double in the hogs head, isn't he refering to a double of harry - "or was it POTTER'S identical twin in the hog's head that day?"! or, again, am i missing something?
I believe that Albus Dumbledore is but we still don't know the extent of his actions (and their consequences) in life - but we can be sure theres a lot more than we already know.
Posted by Ted on February 15, 2007 09:42 AM
Remember in the Half-Blood Prince--Harry's Homework--It talks about how the muggles thought that they were burning the witch but infact they got a tickling sensation and that it only appeared to the muggles that the witch was . I don't know precisely what the book said but it said that the witch did that 47 times just for the fun of it. Also, remember in Book 1, Snape said I can also teach you to put a stopper in ...These are all hints that indicate that Dumbledore only appears to be -Like in Romeo and Juliet, Juliet drinks a potion and it seems that she had d. It appears that Snape and Dumbledore had a plan before. Dumbledore drinking the potion and Snape performing a curse or may be didn't mean the unforgivable curse. Maybe Polyjuice potion played a little part like in Book 4 Moody seemed like Moody till the end but infact he was Barty Crouch Jr.
Posted by Karan Arora from California on February 15, 2007 10:04 AM
Well, outside the 'cannon' as this may be, JKR has given us to speculation by saying theat 'Dumbledore' is giving her trouble. (she never refers to Alberforth as a Dumbledore, only by the first name by the way)
As I have speculated, this difficulty could be from how to communicate..Frog Cards, Portraits, and others cleverly added 'stored memories in the pensive' to that list.
However, discussion above pointed out that Harry thought he saw a Phoenix rise from the confligration which created the tomb on the grounds at the . Fawkes had already left and Harry 'knew' he would be gone forever.
Ok.. What if Phoenixes (what is the plural?) can only be created, like a ghost, from a Wizard's ? And, speculating again, they then 'attach' themselves to someone they admire in person or by reputation or to a place, like Hogwarts? For example, Fawkes. What if Fawkes were a former gifted and noble wizard who attached himself to Dumbledore? That would account for at least the intelligence of the birds often missed with their other dazzling powers.
Dumbledore might then have become himself a Phoenix with the purpose of attaching himself to Harry as Fawkes had attached himself to Albus.
This would mean that JKR would have the difficulty with Dumbledore of the complexity of the relationship, how to convey how it all works and what its limitations are to the readers. Dumbledore would be there to protect just as Fawkes had protected Harry (without prompting but by Harry's displaying LOYALTY). So now the new phoenix could protect either Harry, or remain at Hogwarts as long as anyone there were still loyal to him? Remember also, Dumbledore's Horrific mental torture from the potion guarding the fake horcrux was that students were being harmed and it was his fault. He is sharp with Harry when Harry suggests Dumbledore is not protecting the students when he is absent from the school. Becoming a resident Phoenix to protect Hogwarts or its students is easily within the range of fitting ambitions of a Dumbledore who has moved beyond mortal life. And, when no one there remembers or is loyal to him... he, like Fawkes simply fly away never to return.
Posted by Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg, Pa on February 15, 2007 11:19 AM
OK, I like all the discussion that is happening in regards to Dumbledore being alive and/or (in some cases at the same time).
Last evening I was thinking what if Dumbledore isn't a phoenix anamagas? JKR discribes him the same way she does.....
(wait for it.....)
the house elves. It is hard to believe that Dumbledore might be half house elf? JKR has given them the common...
1. long fingers.
2. crooked noses.
3. the sparkle in their eye.
4. the ability to turn invisible.
5. Dumbledore's uncanny ability to know what is going on at all time.....with the help of the elves?
6. Long life.
1a. Granted she has discribed many characters with long fingers including Tom riddle, but still...
2a. She has not given to many characters the long crooked nose, but snipe has an "abnormally large nose".:)
3a. JKR has not written about "the sparkle in his eye" about too many characters, but Dumbledore and the house elves are two she has given the sparkel to.
4a. We know of only one wizard or witch that can turn invisible. You would think with the LV and the Eaters they would use this ability more often when attacking, but they appear not to. I wonder why that is.
5a. How does Dumbledore know what is going on in Hogwarts at all times? I think he is in constant communication with his little "half-size" relatives.
6a. It has been stated that wizards/witches have longer lives than muggles (as long as they don't cross Voldemort), but how much longer of a life. Dumbledore seems pretty spry for a man who is 150 years old. How much longer would he have lived? How old can house elves live?
Now think about it. Why would Voldemort fear Dumbledore. We all know that Dumbledore has great magic, but if he can be an expert in both human and house-elf magic....wow, I can understand Voldemort's fear of Dumbledore. It would be magic that he cannot understand.
Granted this doesn't answer any questions in the above posts, it really just add another avenue for discussion.
Posted by Chris from Walla Walla on February 16, 2007 07:31 AM
Ted - In response to: "Jan-Marie.. Voldemort came back to life via his horcruxes - isn't that obvious or am i missing something?"
Right, he came back to life (via his Horcruxes). My question is how Voldemort could come back to life at all. Via Horcruxes or spells or anything else after we have been told repeatedly that nothing can raise the in the wizard world. So does that mean Voldemort wasn't really ? If he was ,we have an conundrum because the cannot come back (we're told) via any means. And yet Voldemort did.
Posted by Jan-Marie from New York on February 16, 2007 08:43 AM
Hey, I reckon Albus Dumbledore is but i dont think that means he is out of the picture. As the headmasters before Dumbledore have portraits that talk, shouldnt Dumbledore? I believe that as previous headmasters helped him in sending messages and giving advice etc, Dumbledore be able to help Harry through his portrait.
Posted by Wez from Warwickshre, UK on February 16, 2007 09:29 AM
Just a couple more things to back up my theory about DD being half or part house-elf.
-his ability to see invisible things (or maybe it is his glasses)
-his references to wool socks.
Posted by Chris from Walla Walla on February 16, 2007 10:59 AM
Isn't Albus a little bit tall for an Elf? Flitwick has Goblin ancestry of course, so this isn't as far fetched as it seems...
However, I, for one, do not for a moment believe that Dumbledore is part Elf. Still, given Flitwick's background background, we cannot automatically say NO. Even so, look at the stature issues...both Alberforth and Albus are tall... Hagrid and Madam Maxine as well as Flitwick display stature signatures of their ancestry. There seems to be no similar signature involving the late (or maybe not late) Albus Dumbledore.
Posted by Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg, Pa on February 16, 2007 12:27 PM
Chris: I would add to your message: Dumbledore sometimes called Dumby, very close to Dobby.
I wonder, how long Dobby was at the Malfoy's, and if he was sent there on Dumbledore's orders.
Posted by herve from strasbourg on February 16, 2007 1:00 PM
Okay...just going along with this idea for fun here, perhaps like an animagus can turn into an animal, Dumbledore can turn into Dobby. It does seem like the reference to socks come into play somewhere since it is so odd and seemingly out of place. Or...just again, playing devils advocate here throwing some ideas in the ring. Has Dumbledore returned in time as Dobby as an effort to help Harry? Dumbledore likes socks and that is what Harry gave Dobby. How much might it mean if Dobby was Dumbledore returned and had been living in the Malfoy's home for many years? Again, just sort of going along with the idea for awhile since it is the sort of thing JK might pull on us!
Posted by Amy from P. Kentucky on February 16, 2007 2:54 PM
In my opinion, Dumbledore is NOT for many reasons that are too numerous to write down. But, there is one main reason that I think he isn't .:
Dumbledore is not because Fawkes the phoenix is actually Dumbledores horcrux and has a part of his soul in him. Since, Fawkes disappeared very quickly after Dumbledore's , I think that he aparated somewhere to where one or some of the horcruxes were to destroy them and that Dumbledore appear again in the 7th book.
My opinion may seem off, but I am only 12 years old and an insane Harry Potter fanatic and I wish to share my opinion. Thank you for reading this and good night.
Posted by Emilija from Boston, MA on February 16, 2007 4:04 PM
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