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New Revelations

by David Haber

On August 2, 2006, at the second night of the Harry, Carrie, and Garp event at Radio City Music Hall in New York City, J.K. Rowling says Dumbledore is . But is that the whole story? How does what J.K. has said relate to all of the clues and theories on this site?

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Amy, besides all of the reasons Orlando mentioned, there very recently was released a photo of Abertforth as portrayed in the upcoming Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, and he doesn't look at all like Albus Dumbledore. I know the movies are not definitive proof to the books, but J.K. wouldn't let them get a detail like this so wrong if they are supposed to be twins.

Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on February 13, 2007 3:40 PM

OK all, i too find it hard to believe that Albus and Aberforth are actually identical twins because of all of the reasons you have mentioned. for one thing harry would have recognized immediately, but instead he found him to look vaguely familiar. good point about the change in appearance (hairstyle or glasses), though. Plus, thanks to Dave we now know that in the movie they are not made out to be an identical twins.

Having said that, my point from my last post was that perhaps these comments from fudge "Or was it Potter's identical twin in the Hog's Head that day? Or is there the usual simple explanation involving a reversal of time, a man coming back to life" are giving us a "head's up". so Albus and Aberforth aren't identical but we later found out that they are brothers--so Albus' double WAS at the pub. they are essentially acting as a pair. the rest of the quote come prove to be meaningful "reversal of time, a man coming back to life"? just thinking.

Posted by Heather from NJ on February 13, 2007 6:00 PM

I read this interview the night before Daniel's quote was blogged on the site, and found myself wondering is this a way for J.K. to drop another "clue" without doing so in an obvious manner (such as a website).
Some things come to mind
Draught of the living , I can stopper , and complex like "uh...Dumbledore...I think Hagrid overheard our conversation in the forbidden forest."
Does anyone think Dumbledore retrieved Siruis's enchanted mirror? Could it come into play in the last book?

Posted by Asidi from Ak on February 13, 2007 7:22 PM

I'm typing this with the hopes that I'm not the only one who is thinking that Dumbeldore be back in book 7 as a ghost! he s and yet he is still alive!

Posted by Jason from Freeport NY on February 13, 2007 8:35 PM

First let me say that I found this site roughly 2 weeks ago and what a great site it is.

For years I have been avoiding reading the Harry Potter series, or seeing the movies for that matter. I am just one of those people that tries to stay out of the mainstream. If everyone likes one thing, I go out of my way to avoid it.

Well in September of 2006, I was staying with my uncle and he introduced me to Harry Potter through the first movie. Not that I wanted to watch it, but the Seahawks were getting POUNDED by Chicago Bears and there wasn't anything else on......needless to say, I've been hooked ever since.

For Christmas, my mother gave me the first book and within three weeks I had read all 6 of them. As you can imagine, I didn't get much work done during those three weeks (and I am paying for it now).

Well anyway back to my comments....

I like the idea that Dumbledore is a "anamagus". Whether registered or not I do believe that he is one. Who's to say that it was required to register a century ago, or two centuries ago... Which brings up this question....

If Dumbledore is an anamagus (phoenix) and does and is reborn, what about his brother. Whether they are twins or not, how would they have the EXACT same abilities? Even if they were twins, how odd would it be for both of them to have the same anamagus abilities?

How old are "they" anyway?

Since anamagus's appear to be rare, and to be a Phoenix anamagus at that would be like one in a billion or more. But, perhaps anamagus abilities can run in the family, but for both to pick up the RARE "Phoenix Anamagus" ability is beyond reason. Are we to believe that the Dumbledore brothers are both anamagus Phoenix's (twins or not)?

Once again, how old are they? Back in CoS in the "riddle flashback" Dumbledore was pretty darned old already, and that was 50 years ago. Do you think he has been tipping back some of that elixir of life his "OLD" buddy makes?

I find it hard to believe that both are anamagus's, let alone both phoenix's which leads me back to this question...

How old are the Dumbledore brothers. I can understand how Albus can be very old, but how is his brother keeping pace with him....maybe some of the elixir of life that was discussed in book one (isn't it great the way JKR ties everything together on a continual basis)?

Honestly, I don't know. I just found the idea about the phoenix anamagus to be very interesting, but there are issues with that theory as pointed out herein.

There is something fishy at Hogwarts and it is certainly tied to the Dumbledore brothers.

Posted by Chris from Walla Walla on February 14, 2007 07:29 AM

Welcome Chris to Dave Haber's great Site.
To answer your question about Dumbledore's age. He is one hundred and fifty years old. His brother Aberforth is a bit younger but we are not told how much.
Stay with us and you not regret it;-)

Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on February 14, 2007 07:52 AM

Chris, welcome to the Harry Potter craze! Congrats on getting here. I definately liked your comments, and do believe that something is going on with those Dumbledore boys. The question is what, but i do think that the Phoenix is tied into to it. After all, isn't the "Order", the Order of the Phoenix (Dumbledore's Order).

Anyway, to answer your question, Albus Dumbledore's age is appproximately 150 years old. JKR mentioned it, and i saw it on the web---i just can't remember where i read it. someone else amy have the exact place and time. As for Aberforth, i don't think we know his age yet.

Posted by Heather from NJ on February 14, 2007 08:44 AM

This new quote of Daniel Radcliffe and J.K. Rowling talking is really interesting. First of all, J.K. Rowling finished her book in January. She's still having trouble with Dumbledore. I think Dumbledore had some kind of a plan but she's having second thoughts about it. Maybe it's not working out right, or maybe she's feeling guilty because she told us that he was , when really he might not be. Personally, I think Dumbledore is because J.K. Rowling said so, but there is definately something more to it than what Harry sees.

I'm almost positive that he isn't a ghost because he's not scared of and he says "To the well organized mind, is but the next great adventure." He also says there is nothing to fear from and bos.

I don't think Dumbledore's portrait is giving J.K. Rowling trouble. If Dumbledore's portrait wanted to talk to Harry, it could've talked to him in the 6th book. I think J.K. Rowling has a whole other plan that we're not going to know of until the publication of the 7th book.

Posted by Dumbledore's Fan on February 14, 2007 09:07 AM

Orlando, Dave H., Heather, and all:
First, let me say that I am not necessarily convinced that Albus and Aberforth are twins. However, I don't believe the evidence we have completely rules it out either. Asside from what I said earlier about how twins could look dissimilar enough, there is also the fact that Dumbledore's nose is described as being very crooked and looking like it has been broken several times (forgive me for not giving the exact quote and location, I don't have the books with me at the moment). That, too, would add to the differences between the two and add to Harry not recognizing Aberforth.

And, Dave, just because the actor portraying Aberforth doesn't look anything like the Albus we've seen onscreen doesn't mean he won't by the time they are done with makeup. I, personally, don't think that Keira Knightly and Natalie Portman look much alike at all, yet when they were filming Star Wars Episode 1, their own mothers had trouble telling them apart when they were in full makeup (for any who might not know, Natalie was portraying Queen Amidala and Keira was portraying the Queen's decoy).:-)

Posted by Amy Brinkley from Oceanside, CA on February 14, 2007 09:49 AM

I don't know if this was said or not, but all JK Rowling said was that Dumbledore was giving her problems. In another interview she confirmed that the bartender at the Hog's Head was Albus' brother; Aberforth; could this be the "Dumbledore" she was refering to.

But I not deny that I hope that Albus is not .

Posted by Thomas from Irmo, SC on February 14, 2007 09:55 AM

Amy Brinkley, you are so right about the possiblitiy of the two brothers being twins. Makeup is a wonderful thing. And I too know a few identical twins, and I can tell always them apart---there is usually something different that shows up in their appearance, dress, mannerisms, or minor blemish.

I honestly have no idea if they (the Dumbldore boys) in fact turn out to be twins, but they are brothers and that's good enough for me.

I suppose we won't know until DH because I haven't be able to find any more concrete evidence except for that initial remark by Fudge. This phrase "was it Potter's identical twin in the Hog's Head that day? Or is there the usual simple explanation involving a reversal of time, a man coming back to life" just keeps haunting my. I really feel that there is something to it. It just seems to be a JKR-clue thrown out there.

We have two brothers--twins? who knows.
We know about time turning--is there also something called time reversal, or is time turning another way to reverse time?
We would like to see a man come back to life (at least i would, assuming it's Dumbledore)

Posted by Heather from NJ on February 14, 2007 10:45 AM

First I was thinking Dumbledore's ! Then I was thinking Dumbledore isnt ! Now I dont know what to think! JK is really good. Im going crazy!

Posted by Racquel Jones from North Carolina on February 14, 2007 12:18 PM

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