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New Revelations

by David Haber

On August 2, 2006, at the second night of the Harry, Carrie, and Garp event at Radio City Music Hall in New York City, J.K. Rowling says Dumbledore is . But is that the whole story? How does what J.K. has said relate to all of the clues and theories on this site?

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I think Dumbledore d just like he planned Draco to - ""He cannot you if you are already . Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine." Somehow he really is but not because "it's more complex..."

Posted by Nanster on February 12, 2007 07:07 AM

Didn't say Dumbledore that he would always be present at Hogwarts as long as someone there was loyal to him?

Posted by herve from strasbourg on February 12, 2007 07:25 AM

I think everyone has forgotten one other place we can hear Dumbledore speak even though he's ...his portrait in the Headmaster's office at Hogwarts! I think Harry have to get back there somehow, and when he's there, he'll have the chance to talk to him again. Maybe JKR is having problems figuring out how much the portraits actually know of their past lives...

Posted by Anonymous on February 12, 2007 12:41 PM

While I hope Jo does not bring back the Time Turner, I believe the only source we have that they have all been destroyed came from the Daily Prophet, not exactly reliable, but even the prophet gets it right sometimes.

Posted by Ed O'Brien from Chicago, Illinois on February 12, 2007 1:11 PM

Well....

ALL the headmasters have portraits in the 'head's' office. These are NOT Horcruxes either.. but, they do have speech and other capabilities as we have already seen. Dumbledore can then give the same kinds of advice to Harry that he himself has had from those who have gone before him. His portrait appears at the end of HBP and is already there to offer advice.

Not to mention the Chocolate Frog Cards (Dumbledore does not care what they take away from him as long as they leave him on the chocolate frog cards ) We might well see help from Dumbledore from other than portraits.

It is, sadly, not inconsistent with JKR's statements about Dumbledore's that we shall continue to have advice from him. That, and how to resolve it in light of what she knew she had announced, could be difficult for her by itself!

Posted by Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg, Pa on February 12, 2007 1:47 PM

to janie at the very beginning of the comments regarding AD being an Animagus:
but in the fourth (or is it the third?) book Hermione looks up all registered Animagus and tells Ron and Harry that Professor McGonagal is one. Wouldn't she tell them if Dumbledore was too? It is possible, but unlikely I think, that he became one in the two years since or is unregistered.

Posted by Ginny Kissed Harry from Hogwarts on February 12, 2007 2:01 PM

It is the 3rd book that Hermione looks up all the Animaguses. I think Dumbledore is an Animagus, who takes the form of a phoenix. That is why at the at the end of HBP the tomb burst into flames; Dumbledore was being reborn from the ashes, and then the phoenix flies away. I dont think that was Fawkes, i think it was Dumbledore in his Animagus form. and when was the last time Dumbledore followed the law?

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 12, 2007 3:48 PM

Um...there is something "very" important that we have to remember.

There are TWO Dumbledores! There is the Dumbledore that we all know and love, Albus. Then there is his brother, Aberforth.

I personally still believe that Aberforth is who Jo was refering to when she said that Dumbledore is , not Albus. I know that Harry saw Aberforth as the , but there have been several instances in these books where people were not who we thought they were.

Posted by Michael Brinkley from Oceanside, Ca on February 12, 2007 4:31 PM

Herve, I think you are absolutely right! DD did tell Harry he'd always be present as long as people are loyal to him. It's that kind of simple statement that Jo has made a habit of biting us with later on. How DD manage to be present? The headmaster's office portraits was my first thought (as it was for many others, it seems).

But, Ashley's thought that the phoenix that flew away after DD's tomb burst into flames was really DD in Animagus form is certainly much more interesting. It's just the kind of thing JKR would do as she is so good at weaving all releated ideas together into an unexpected outcome.

When I read HBP, the tomb bursting into flame and the phoenix flying off seemed somehow inconsistent with any part of the . At first, I thought Jo put it in the story as a "magical" flourish, just to show DD's magical power even after . But, since the phoenix bursts into flame when it s and is reborn from the ashes, that would make it totally consistent with DD being an unregistered animagus.

What DD's role be in ly Hallows, if it has something to do with the amazing powers of phoenixes: their tears have healing powers; they can carry "immensely" heavy loads; and they make highly faithful pets, may actually point the way to how the series concludes. JKR might even have given us a clue as to whether Harry lives or not.

Posted by Hannah on February 12, 2007 4:54 PM

Very interesting information – so this could mean that we are going to see Dumbledore in one of the following ways in the next book:

1.Portrait in headmaster’s office
2.Memories left behind (pensieve)
3.Chocolate frog Cards (most unlikely as there are too many of them)
4.Time turner (the one used in Prisoner of Azkaban could have still been with Dumbledore)
5.Fawkes is Dumbledore’s horcrux
6.Dumbledore’s animagus is a phoenix
7.Ghost of Dumbledore

However, we might not see Albus Dumbledore in ‘ly Hallows.’ I think that when JKR said, “Dumbledore's giving me a lot of trouble.” She meant Aberforth Dumbledore is giving her a lot of trouble because he is going to be in ‘ly Hallows’ as he has Slytherin’s locket. This is how the plot gets “more complex.” By the way, I bet the Aberforth scene in the “Order of the Phoenix” movie is probably going to be deleted.

Posted by Javed Imtiaz from Vancouver, Canada on February 12, 2007 5:54 PM

like about 99% of the comments on whether Dumbledore is , i believe he is not . JK knows about this site, right? maybe she could be getting her information from here, maybe she was inspired by it. Dumbledore has a good chance at being an Animagus, but i believe he did fake his own . there is so much contriversy regarding Dumbledore's , that maybe its more complex just because of that.

Posted by heather from Brea, CA on February 12, 2007 6:26 PM

Hannah, not to splits hairs, but i have been posting the concept of Dumbledore being a phoenix since as early as Dec 26 at New Revelations to as recent as the prior page (p 21). Having said that, it makes sense for Dumbledore to be a phoenix, because then JKR can be telling us the truth that he d. But, as we all know he was reborn from his own ashes, which is what probably happened at the end of the when "Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue."

To Ginny kissed Harry: in PoA when Harry and friends were in the shreiking shack, Hermione said "We did Animagi in class with Professor McGonagall...and I went and looked Professor McGonagall up on the register, and there have been only seven Animagi this century, and Pettigrew's name wasn't on it."

To me this means one of two things. First, he (Dumbledore)could be unregistered, which i don't believe because he was a transfiguration teacher--what transfiguration teacher can't transform into something? Or second...we know that Dumbledore is approximately 150 years old. He was probably registered in the prior century. I find the latter possibility much more likely. I really think that if Hermione had seen him on the list, she would have mentioned it. Like i said, he was probably registered in the prior century.

Michael Brinkley, i agree that JKR plays with us with her words, and i know she has never come out and said "Albus Dumbledore is ", but i just don't see Albus Dumbledore sacrificing his brother (Aberforth) like that. I had thought about this theory as well, but that is where i get stuck. Why would he do that? since that one element doesn't make sense for me, i am sticking to my phoenix theory. Dumbledore d and was reborn. simple as that---but complex too!

Posted by Heather from NJ on February 12, 2007 7:07 PM

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