Neville Longbottom: The Other Chosen One
by David Haber
On the night that Sirius died, after the battle at the Ministry of Magic at the end of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Dumbledore showed Harry the complete Lost Prophecy. It is then we learn that it was possible that Neville could also have been the Chosen One. Dumbledore tells us this, and then immediately insists it could only have been Harry. Why mention it then, in the first place?
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Why would neville finish Voldemort off? Only because the profecy maybe was about neville? He doesn't has the strength, and JK herself said that Harry and Voldemort are going to battle.
Posted by Claudia on June 4, 2007 05:32 AM
“But what about Neville’s cup?”
I think Trelawney, the one who had created the prophecy, knew each and every bit of information about Neville’s hidden secrets. To prevent Neville’s future from others in the vicinity, she herself came forward to partner Neville in the divination classes. She even kept a constant touch on Neville’s Dream Diary. Even on the very first day, she did not allow Neville to unfogg his future, thereby keeping Neville as a secret weapon.
Posted by vivek from chennai on June 4, 2007 08:56 AM
I noticed there were a lot of comments about the gum wrappers and secret messages being passed between Neville and his mother. I disagree that there are any secret messages being passed across. However, there does seem to be a connection between 'bubbles' and 'thought/memory', a quick example being Harry sitting in his bath full of bubbles in GoF trying to work out his Egg clue. Droobles best blowing gum produce 'bluebell coloured bubbles that refuse to pop for days', but there are no bubbles bouncing around the closed ward to go with the wrappers Neville is being handed. If bubbles can be associated with thought/memory then it can be suggested that there are no bubbles as the LongBottoms have no memories and there is perhaps the possibility that Neville has only the wrappers as his 'bubbles' are as restricted as his parents.
Somebody is going to have to help Neville blow this bubble for him to remember. It could be anyone, or anything - but I just want to put in a wild guess...
Dean Thomas, Gryffindor, dormitory sharer with Harry and Neville, - and West Ham fan.
West Ham are associated with a song - they sing it at every match. 'I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles'
Daft maybe - but this is Harry Potter, sometimes the unlikely becomes likely!
Posted by Orlando from England on June 4, 2007 10:11 AM
You know, this may seem pretty simple, but to me, the reason that Dumbledore mentioned Neville but then went on seems to be an attempt to keep Harry grounded. It was Dumbledore's way of telling Harry that yes, he was important, but it was only chance that made it so, so he shouldn't get y. I think Dumbledore had an idea he may not live to see the end of things, and he wanted to make Harry realize it wasn't because he was an immense magician that he was chosen, in hopes that Harry might see he couldn't complete the task before him by himself. This is not to say i don't think Neville be important, quite the contrary, but I think Dumbledore's mention of him probably had more mundane reasoning than is trying to be attributed to it. Still, an excellent article and well-though-out. Of course I have my own theories about what is to come in book 7. I can't wait to see Draco sacrifice himself to save Harry.
Posted by Sean from Burlington, IA on June 4, 2007 12:03 PM
I find the Remembrall theory quite fascinating. It is very true Neville may have forgotten somethign simple and insignificant, such as a schoolbook, or an essay on unicorns for Professor Grubbly-Plank, or he may have forgotten something with much significance. I am awaiting the last opportunity for Neville's much deserved vengeance on cruel Bellatrix in DH.
Posted by Koby from New Jersey on June 4, 2007 2:32 PM
I do not see Neville at all as Peter, Neville is around the trio, but not as much as it is attributed to Peter, Neville has both stood up to the trio as helped them. Neville has shown more bravery than many others, an along with Luna Lovegood (one of my personal favourits) and Ginny has placed himself in danger, and has been up to the challenge, both in the Department of Mysteries, and Hogwarts, when facing the Eaters.
Neville WILL NOT turn against the trio, neither Luna (they are the closest thing to friends she has ever had). The Creavy brothers just might, like somebody pointed out, but I doubt it.
Neville has changed a lot throughout the series, becoming more self confidant and better in everything, especially Herbology, Charms and DADA (after Harry’s lessons), but when do we see that he starts improving drastically? I would say after his two encounters with the Cruciatus Course, the first was when fake Moody shows them the course on the spider, that rattles him in a way nobody but Harry understands (as he already knows what happened to Neville’s parents), and then when he experiences it himself at the Department of Mysteries.
I like the idea of the Four Houses being represented in our heroes. Neville & Luna end up together.
Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on June 4, 2007 4:25 PM
I believe the part where Neville may be like Wormtail isn't possible. Remember in the first book, he was awarded house points for bravery (yes I know for bravery against his friends, but standing up against an enemy is easier than standing up to a friend).
Posted by DiNh from Somewhere,Eating on June 4, 2007 4:59 PM
“What did Trelawney ask? Was it okay?”
“Trelawney says the crystal ball’s told her that if I tell you [about the observations in the crystal ball], I'll have a horrible accident!” squeaked Neville as he clambered back down the ladder toward Harry.
It is clear that Trelawney is preventing Harry from knowing Neville’s future. Has the crystal ball revealed something that would destroy the friendship between Harry and Neville? Has it revealed that Neville would betray Harry? Or has it revealed that Neville would become the seventh Horcrux?
The phrase “the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord ” is repeated twice thus both Harry and Neville have the potential to Voldemort. What if Voldemort comes to know that Neville too has the power to vanquish him… the first instinct would be to Neville as soon as possible. But the best move that Voldemort could make is to place the seventh Horcrux on Neville who is less dangerous than Harry. Moreover none would come forward to the innocent, Neville even though he is the seventh Horcrux. This may lead to Neville sacrificing his own life to save others and thereby vanquishing the final Horcrux and also fulfilling the prophecy that he too has the power to vanquish the Dark Lord in one way or the other.
Posted by vivek from chennai, india on June 4, 2007 11:29 PM
Wow, vivek, that's a good idea I don't think I've ever heard before. If Neville is the final horcrux, that could very well cause his "memory problems", as we don't really know how it would effect a living person to be carrying around a horcrux inside them.
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on June 4, 2007 11:32 PM
What I can deduce from your theory is that Neville might try as if he is betraying Harry and his friends, but eventually turns as their friend again. Maybe he plot a serious plan, just like wormtail he betray harry but unlike him in the end he turn into his favour. The fact that Neville might have been the chosen one leads us to think that Neville definitely help harry in ending Voldemort. Or maybe this can be the other way round. Neville might become a huge part of a plan against voldemort and then eventually turn against harry and company to join hands with Voldemort. This involvement of Neville in the story might lead us to having praises and a soft spot for him like we have for other charcaters. But since in the end he go evil, he might . As far as those bubble wrappers are considered, these might really be some clue. May be a secret plan which his parents might have wanted, or maybe something related to the horcruxes...
Posted by Vega on June 5, 2007 12:06 AM
A note on why Harry may have been chosen over Neville..
Harry's birthday is the 31st, Neville's the 30th. The prophecy states that as the month ends...maybe Tom interputed that as the last child born in that month?
Harry is also a half-blood just as Tom is...although Harry's Mom was a Mudblood while Tom's Dad was only a muggle.
Posted by TIFFANY from WAUSAU,WI on June 5, 2007 12:46 PM
Does anyone think the of Neville's grandfather, which he witnessed (p397 OotP) is significant? I sort of assumed he had d of natural causes but now I wonder...
Posted by Joe from England on June 5, 2007 2:08 PM
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