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Neville Longbottom: The Other Chosen One

by David Haber

On the night that Sirius died, after the battle at the Ministry of Magic at the end of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Dumbledore showed Harry the complete Lost Prophecy. It is then we learn that it was possible that Neville could also have been the Chosen One. Dumbledore tells us this, and then immediately insists it could only have been Harry. Why mention it then, in the first place?

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The idea that Neville could betray Harry is something I can't even imagine. Even with his apparent lack of s, Neville has always backed Harry. I've always thought Neville would show himself to be more than we have seen so far.

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on June 1, 2007 09:56 AM

Maybe the pearly white figure of the prophecy mentioned by Vivek is what is reflected in Harry's glasses on the cover art. If something smashed as the trio entered/fell into the pile of treasures, a figure suddenly appearing and voicing a prophecy would certainly account for the look of fright on Ron's face.
I don't think that Neville be the one to finish off Voldemort. He probably be a necessary support to Harry. At the end of book 6, Harry has understood his role and accepted what he must do. In book 7 he come of age and face the enemy who has been after him throughout the series. All along he has reacted to events which were set in motion before he was even born. Now he has resolved to take action and stop letting Voldemort call all the shots. Harry has always shown strength and ingenuity when facing evil, and especially when facing Voldemort. He is the hero of the books. It is only human nature for us to want someone else to be the one who is forced to be the er of Voldemort, not our beloved Harry. But Harry be an adult who not do less than his parents have done.
I think Neville's role is going to be along the lines of Sam Gamgee, not Frodo -- a hero of sorts but not the Chosen One.

Posted by Patty from Quincy MA on June 1, 2007 5:14 PM

Dumbledore, �The only people, who are permitted to retrieve a prophecy from the Department of Mysteries, are those about whom it was made�.

Neville, the only person other than Harry who had touched the prophecy without suffering madness. It is clear that the one who had jinxed the prophecy made sure that Neville could also retrieve the prophecy. Still one could argue that the madness jinx would be removed once the ball is retrieved from the shelf and anyone can access it. But I think the jinx would have still remained in the ball because the logic behind jinxing the ball is to make sure that it doesn�t reaches the wrong hand. Moreover, the jinx is present on the ball, not on the shelf. Even though the eaters were trying to steal the prophecy, none of them touched the ball thus raising the possibilities of my theory.

�There are all kinds of courage,� said Dumbledore, smiling. �It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends. I therefore award ten points to Mr. Neville Longbottom.�

Neville fought with his friends even before Ron solved the chess, Hermione [The Snape�s puzzle] and Harry [The Dark Lord].

Ron, Hermione and Harry were awarded in the same sequence as they approached their obstacles. Going by the sequence Neville was the first person to be involved in this chain of sequences, he should have been awarded before the trio but he was the last one to get his points. Though Harry was able to equalize the score with the Slytherin. It was Neville�s ten points that got the House Cup. This is enough to prove the importance given by Albus Dumbledore and of course J.K.Rowling to Neville Longbottom.

Posted by vivek from chennai on June 1, 2007 10:55 PM

There is definitely an intriguing side of Neville Longbottom, but i'm positive that does not have to do with him being the "Chosen One". If Neville has the power the Dark Lord knows not, why didn't Jo entitled the book as "Neville Longbottom and the..."?

Possibly,what happened the night the Potters were ed was also the same thing that happened when the Longbottoms received their Cruciatus torture... Neville's parents also protected him from being thoroughly damaged by the Unforgivable curse. Lestrange was the one priveleged to do that to Neville's parents since this happened after Voldemort's downfall... Probably, Voldemort ordered this one to Bellatrix to make sure that no one's gonna defeat Voldemort completely. But he was twice wrong.

Maybe Neville's not the Chosen One, but definitely he could help Harry defeat Voldemort. And i don't think he'll betray the trio.

Posted by Ashley from Baguio City, Philippines on June 2, 2007 09:48 AM

I do not think that Neville is the chosen one. I also think that, given the evidence so far, there is no chance that Neville betray Harry.

Posted by Anonymous from Edmonton AB, Canada on June 2, 2007 3:54 PM

Neville is an interesting character. Though I never thought much of him in the first book, he has become an increasingly significant character. I do not think, as some others do, that he turn to the dark side but I cannot deny the strong feeling I get that he serve a great purpose in the seventh book. I am not fully convinced however that he be Voldemort's ultimate downfall. It is interesting also that the phrase "the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord" is repeated. I also do think that this could refer to both Harry and Neville. But it is Harry I believe who is the 'Chosen one', after all he is the one who was able to detect Voldemort's presence and power through his scar. He was Chosen by Vlodemort.

Posted by paris on June 2, 2007 4:56 PM

Has anyone ever thought that someone who may have something to do with the possible betrayal of Harry and Ron could be Colin Creevy, who is always tryng to hang up with them? He obviously worships Harry and the others, he has a certain resembalance to a mouse and Harry is perhaps a little (really little) bossy with him sometimes. Is it possible?
Perhaps he and Neville would cook something up together? And his brother Dennis?
Anyway, this theory with Neville is brilliant - I would never come up with something like that!

Posted by Mannu from Estonia, Europe on June 3, 2007 05:25 AM

well couldn't it be that voldemort just wanted to be sure and tried to make both harry and neville harmless? the one's brains mashed up and the other with a avada kedavra spell? (of course the avada kedavra part didn't quite work and so it looked like harry to be the cosen one)

Posted by carni from dokkum on June 3, 2007 05:49 AM

It's still possible that Neville be the one to finish off Voldemort. The series is called Harry Potter because that's whose perspective we get, and so far everything has happened to him because of how Voldemort interpreted the prophesy. If the books were entitled "Neville Longbottom and the...", then we probably would all be here arguing whether or not Harry was really supposed to be the Chosen One and why they're not called "Harry Potter and the..."

Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on June 3, 2007 06:06 AM

Harry is described as the chosen one...I always assumed Lord Voldemort chose him...but perhaps someone else did? Given that it is our choices that are important...

Neville could touch the prophecy after it had been removed from the shelf... I understood that only those whom it concerned could remove it from the shelf but others could touch it after that.

Posted by Joe from England on June 3, 2007 3:27 PM

If the prophecy still works once Harry has retrieved it, then why were the eater trying to accio it? Some of them worked at the ministry, so they would probably know if there were any danger about grabbing it. And I don�t think Voldemort would take any risk about it, considering that the jinx makes you insane and therefore you could lose or break the prophecy.

Posted by Karina from Chile on June 3, 2007 4:13 PM

My understanding of GOF is that only the person to whom the prophecy relates to can remove it, but once it's removed anyone can handle it? Isn't that why Voldemort plotted to have Harry race to Ministry of Magic thinking Sirius was in trouble and planted his Eaters there ready to snatch the prophecy once it was removed from the shelf by Harry. If this is so, then Neville would have been able to handle the prophecy once it was removed by Harry.

Think it is feasible to think that since the prophecy could have originally meant Harry or Neville, Neville could have removed it to. But as the Prophecy progressed, Voldemort marked Harry as his equal, eliminating Neville from the Prophecy...

Posted by Meredith from Sydney, Australia on June 3, 2007 9:44 PM

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