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Magick Moste Evile - What is (and isn't) a Horcrux

by Kevin McDonald

A Horcrux is a container in which the witch or wizard who makes one puts a piece of their soul to keep safe in the event that their body is destroyed. A Horcrux prevents the soul from "passing on" and thereby holds the witch or wizard's consciousness earth bound. That's it. From that point on, steps would have to be taken to re-establish ones self in a body.

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What do you think happens to the soul in the case of a dementor's kiss? Is it released to go where it's supposed to go? Is it destroyed?

I think all we know is that it is taken out from one's body, without ing him (which makes it different from Avada Kedavra).

Then what happens if the "kissed person" has a Horcrux? Is it possible for a dementor to suck his soul? If it is, does he recover his soul afterwards? Is the soul released and bound to earth?

Posted by herve from strasbourg on February 23, 2007 10:28 AM

Herve, very good question. I'm thinking that the dementor sucks out the part that is in the body, and "s" that part of the soul, but not the body. If the person already had a horcrux, those peices are not touched by the dementor and probally are not harmed. Therefore, if you wanted to a kissed person you would only have to track down the horcruxes: the part in the body has already been done for you. At least, that is my theory.

Posted by Lucinda from Alabama on February 23, 2007 3:07 PM

Herve and Lucinda--
I think that Horcruxes can be attacked by dementors, because dementors feed on your soul, but I don't think that dementors could find a Horcrux, because it doesn't have any emotions; just a bit of a person's soul in it. Sirius escaped Azkaban as a dog, because dog emotions are hard for dementors to sense. They sense emotion, not soul.
I agree with you that you need only destroy the Horcruxes to the person. I only disagree because once a person is kissed by a dementor, it becomes a dementor. Therefore, they probably wouldn't care about whatever their goal in life was anymore. But then again, the bit of soul in the Horcrux may still care. Quite the quandary...

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 24, 2007 08:57 AM

Ashley, I have to disagree with you on the point of a person turning into a dementor. They turn into a soulless lump.

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on February 26, 2007 07:45 AM

But then... how do they get more dementors? You mean to tell me that all the dementors that guard Azkaban were there at the beginning of time?

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 26, 2007 1:57 PM

I would assume they breed, like any other creature.

Posted by Michael Brinkley from Oceanside, Ca on February 26, 2007 8:36 PM

Yes, it says that in one of the books, doesn't it? I don't remember where, perhaps it's mentioned in HBP when they're causing all the mist?

Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on February 26, 2007 8:42 PM

Breed? I never thought of that.... doesnt strike me as something dementors would do.... But if you were a soul-less lump, why would they go into great detail about how you can survive without your soul? Because somwhere, I think it was Lupin, said, "You can survive without your soul, as long as your brain and heart were still working." I had always taken that to mean that you became a dementor.
And i think i might have read somewhere that, "What happens to you when you get kissed by a dementor?" "They turn you into a similar creature like themselves..."
Not sure though...

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 27, 2007 1:57 PM

Just because they have no soul does not mean the kissed one could perform the kiss on someone else. I think the dementors have something to do with the ly Hallows. Just a hunch.
Breeding doesn't need a soul, if it is only breeding, but do they need to breed. Do they ever ?

I wonder if dementors are necessary to make a horcrux.Possibly in a controlled environment, they could extract the torn piece of soul. Under the guidance of an expert wizard using the appropriate spell, the torn piece could be protected from being destroyed or whatever it is the dementors do to it, and then placed inside the object that is to be the horcrux.
I wonder if the Eaters are somehow involved in making a horcrux. The name itself sounds like something to defy immortality. I seem to remember Harry saying "And then Nagini was going to eat me." I can't find it in the books, so it might be a figment of my imagination, but it would fit. When Harry was tied to the gravestone, encircled by the Eaters, Nagini was circling Harry and Voldemort said to her "Not yet, not yet." I understood "eat me" to mean physically eat, but what if it means "to eat Harry's " and become a horcrux?

Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on February 27, 2007 6:32 PM

I looked up dementors and breeding. JKR says they don't breed, they grow like a fungus wherever there is decay.

Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on February 27, 2007 7:33 PM

In HBP, the chapter, The Other Minister, Fudge say that dementors are breeding and thats what's causing the cold misty weather.

Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on February 28, 2007 07:54 AM

Fudge is not such a reliable source of info that I have seen, but maybe he should have said multiplying instead of breeding, unless JKR changed her mind about them breeding.
Umbridge probably told Fudge the dementors breed, so of course he believes it completely. Until he hears otherwise from Voldemort maybe.

Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on February 28, 2007 10:19 AM

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