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Is Harry the last horcrux?
by David Haber
In Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince, we learned that, to make himself immortal, Lord Voldemort ripped his soul into seven pieces, and created six horcruxes (the seventh piece of his soul still residing in his body). We know or suspect about five of the horcruxes. Is it possible that Harry is the sixth horcrux? There are clues to suggest that he is.
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okay many of you are saying you don't want harry to . well if he is a horcrux as i suspect he woudn't need to himself, he would just have to love to voldemort. also maybe it is harry's scar not body so he can just get red of the scar, JKR said the last word in the book is scar so maybe the last sentence is and harry finally got red of his scar. just a theory guys.
Posted by ahmed from manama, bahrain on January 11, 2007 05:19 AM
There have been many comments posted that Harry can't be a horcrux because Jo said he was not. I don't recall her ever saying that and just went to a research site to check out her quotes about Harry. There's no reference to JKR ever saying he wasn't a horcrux. Can anyone tell me where I can find either the author saying that he wasn't (or implying it) or the quote from a book that states it?
While on the research site, by the way, I did come across Jo's reference to Lily's eyes and she admitted referring to it often and said it was very important and we'll find out about it either in Book 6 or 7. So, I guess, it'll be in DH.
Posted by Hannah on January 11, 2007 08:09 AM
each one of the seven horcruxes is equal, voldy just resides in his own body because it's his own body. Harry is the last horcrux, it's the only way he could've survived the curse as a baby, i mean how many other people have tried this whole horcrux thing.. therefore everybody believed that you couldnt survive the ing curse. Now to my point, you ask how harry can voldy when he has to himself first.. well due to all 7 parts being equal, he can voldy and then himself, and it be the same as if he d and then somebody ed voldy. However, as we all know, to make things climatic, jk rowling have harry voldy.
Posted by john from boston on January 11, 2007 08:41 AM
To refer to Daedalus’ previous comment, I believe that part of Voldmort’s soul could exist in Harry despite Voldemort not being able to possess him since he could not bear the pain of Harry’s “power he knows not.” My reasoning is that Harry specifically asked Dumbledore in HBP if he thought Voldemort could feel it when a horcrux is destroyed and Dumbledore said he didn’t think so. I think once the soul is torn he doesn’t feel it anymore. Now maybe the pain Harry feels when Voldemort is acting up is a result of the incompatibility between Voldemort’s torn piece of soul and Harry’s power.
On a separate note, I’m curious to see what Ginny Weasley’s role in book 7 be. Since Harry’s “power the dark lord knows not” is love and truthfully until HBP Harry has not known love either, his new feelings for her somehow cause him to tap into this power.
Posted by Bart from Denver, Colorado on January 11, 2007 08:44 AM
Kevin, I have a theory about Horcruxes that could be discussed and completed.
It all stands on the idea that soul and body both have their own existance, with strong interactions and absolute rules.
First rule: if the soul s, then the body s even if it has no visible wound or damage (that happens to the gardener, probably because the AK s the soul without wounding the body).
Second rule: if the body s, the soul still exists but cannot get in a new body (no reincarnation is mentioned); it disappears, or becomes a ghost.
Third rule: you can split the soul in two parts and storage one in a Horcrux; in that case, both parts of the soul share the same memories, but each part has its own body, although one of them is virtual (it is a perfect copy of the body which performed the Horcrux).
Fifth rule: in some cases, part of the soul may exist without the support of the body or a Horcrux (happens to Voldemort); if the corresponding body hasn't d, it can be regained through Dark Arts.
Sixth rule: you can stop ageing (at least you were able to do so with the PS/SS), but you can never get any younger.
When he said he had gone further than anyone into the paths of immortality, I think that Voldemort did not mean that he had seven lifes to live. He meant he had found a way of breaking the second rule: get his soul in a younger body. I let you guess which body it was.
Posted by herve from strasbourg, france on January 11, 2007 09:42 AM
There are only six Horcruxes, and it is very unlikely that Harry is one.
During the duel in the cemetery (GoF), we saw all the spells cast by Morty's wand back to when he ed James.
No mention there of any spells to remove a piece of ones soul and seal it in any thing.
(or maybe I just have a different version)
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 11, 2007 09:51 AM
Well, i think about it this way that when the curse that was cast by Voldemort cast on Harry bounced back and hit him it didnt really him, he was just left nearly . However, now if Harry were to be a Horcrux then he would have to himself before ing voldemort because its not possible to Voldemort without destroying all the Horcrux, either it was have to be somebody else who has to him or Harry is not a Horcrux.
Actually, I do believe that Dumbledore is not , and i believe that because i think that someone else was taking Dumbledore place instead of the real Dumbledore. A few resons make me think this because in HBP Dumbledore keeps mentioning that he was quite smart compared to other men (not that hes not) but no great "good" wizard would brag about how clever they are. There are a few more reasons but i cannot remember that at the moment. And I do agree with the earlier quote that The AK is a ing curse with just leaves the person on the same spot they were ed upon, and in HBP dumbledore is thrown several meters before he comes to rest.
Posted by Yash from Stockholm, Sweden on January 11, 2007 09:56 AM
I was also convinced that I had somewhere read that JO had declined Harry being a Horcrux. So I also went in search of that statement and... it doesn't exist...it can't of vanished into thin air...? I wonder....
That would imply that we cannot definitely shut out the theory that Harry or his scar, are a horcrux...!
Along the way of Horcruxes, JO said that the SORTING HAT is not a Horcrux.
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on January 11, 2007 11:19 AM
herve, very interesting theory. However,
the dementor's kiss sucks out the soul, but does not the body.
A body can "live" with out a soul, it's just that everything that made that person a person is gone.
Second rule: I can find no flaw exept in the case where a Horcrux is employed. In which case everything that made that person a person is kept from moving on and exists in the state Morty describes as "less than the meanest ghost"
Third rule: Every time one commits the soul is split. Making a Horcrux involves drawing out a piece of the torn soul (a wholly unpleasant sounding prospect) and placing it in an other object. The consciousness (everything that makes a person a person) remains with the person and does not go into the Horcrux. which is why I think Morty, as he sheded and removed more and more of his soul, became less human, but NOT less powerful.
Fifth rule: This is how I believe a Horcrux works. The consciousness remains earth bound because part of the soul is held safe. It is because of Morty's Horcrux that even though his body is destroyed by the rebounding avada' curse, he did not .
Sixth rule: I would agree with you outright on this one were it not for the "baby-headed" eater in the Ministry of Magic. Although, admittedly that wasn't exactly "youthening" in a productive or beneficial way..
I think that Morty believes that he is the first wizard to create six Horcruxes when one, safely hidden would be enough. I believe that not only we discover that Morty has chosen objects he believes to have special significance, but I think he could have laid the out in some pattern, like a symbol, or perhaps in places he believes have power, like the cave.
Bring on book 7.
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 11, 2007 12:08 PM
its very interesting, i think that even if harry is the last horcrux there is a way for him to not , remember what dumbledore said about peter pittegrew to harry? something like 'you be glad you saved peter pittegrews life'. so maybe dumbledore knows that harry is a horcrux and thinks that harry one day pittegrew to take revenge for his parents, then harry can have a horcrux aswell,then him self to cancel voldemorts horcrux,then becom alive again with his own horcrux, then he can voldemort!
Anyone thinking along the same lines?
Posted by huzaifah from london on January 11, 2007 12:21 PM
I would be shocked if anyone other than Voldemort has made a horcrux. As mentioned in HBP and many posts here, they are the darkest of magic and made through supremely evil acts. I think it would be hard to accept one of the good guys making one.
Also, why is it a given that Harry has to destroy all the horcruxes before ing Voldemort? Couldn't he destroy them all (including the one in Voldemort) leaving the potential one in his scar to destroy at the end to finish off Voldemort for good?
Posted by Bart from Denver, Colorado on January 11, 2007 2:21 PM
I do not believe that Harry could be the Horcrux, because I do not believe that two souls could live in one body. As Harry is good and Voldemort is horridly evil, I can not see the two coexisting in one body for such a long time. Furthermore, anyone else using Harry as a Horcrux is unbelievable. The people who would have had access to Harry as a baby would probably been in the Order of the Phoenix, and on the good side.;except Pettigrew. Horcruxs would not be used by descent wizards or witches. One does not go about saving themselves by diminishing their own soul, if they are truly good. There are worse things than . Yes, I do believe Harry's scar play a role in the end game. Because, we are told, by Dumbledore, that scars can be useful things. I do not believe having a horcrux in your scar would be useful.
Could not the Sorting Hat be a Horcrux? It belonged to Godric Gryffindor. This would fulfill Voldemort's want for something from the four founders. He could have gotten his hands on the Sorting Hat during his school years. We all have our theories, because having Harry as a Horcrux would make a very sticky end.
Posted by Hermione from Hogwarts on January 11, 2007 2:29 PM
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