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Is Harry the last horcrux?
by David Haber
In Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince, we learned that, to make himself immortal, Lord Voldemort ripped his soul into seven pieces, and created six horcruxes (the seventh piece of his soul still residing in his body). We know or suspect about five of the horcruxes. Is it possible that Harry is the sixth horcrux? There are clues to suggest that he is.
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Well nice assumption of course, and I believe it actually. But come to facts now and forget theories... JO said "Harry is not a horcrux" So it is just a theory, isn't it?
Posted by Lord eSofied from Cairo, Egypt on January 8, 2007 2:02 PM
Well... yes, it is just a theory, but it is a theory backed up with some interesting clues from the books. Besides, that's what we do here at Beyond Hogwarts. We discuss and debate theories!
As far as what J.K. has stated in interviews, we need to listen to her, but it really doesn't affect our debates. The clues exist, you can read them for yourself.
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on January 8, 2007 2:06 PM
Doesn't Voldemort try, again, to Harry in GOF? I don't have the book handy, but he does try in the film. Why would he destroy a horcrux?
Posted by Avery from Florida Keys on January 8, 2007 2:24 PM
Good point. Maybe because it was accidental, Voldemort doesn't know Harry is one of his horcruxes until the psychic connection develops during Order of the Phoenix.
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on January 8, 2007 2:26 PM
To be honest in the last couple, ive read this in another forum and i started to think about it, i never had your cluess but it felt like it... Now that i have ur clues some questions came to my head, 1: Why would voldy try or have the spell on his mind that cause harry to be one...
2: Lets say he did try it and made him a horcrux why he try to him that night after he made him... so that brings me to think that someone else was there that night, with him (Voldemort)
3: Lets say he had the spell on his mind that for some reason (which its not clear and i think you have to peform the spell in order to make something a horcrux) and harry became one and as you go along in the books you start to find this clues that you have and many other that now i dont have but i share with all of you...
In GOF Voldemort he trys to him on the grave yard but for obvious reasons he doesnt and escapes which in Order of the phoenix we know that he feels that connection..
So he then trys to prove it by taking harry and him as one and faces Dumbledore which at some point came this to my mind, what if when Dumbledore faces to them and sees that Voldy wants it bad to him and harry, he realises that something is up...
Then we get to HP, when we never see or hear why Dumbledore started with that idea that Voldy made horcrux, and i guess that comes in play at the end of the order... Now why do you guys think that after the order, Now we see that Voldy wants Dumbledore after all this years and specially when he was stronger and had more man power he doesnt... I think he saw that Dumbledore figured it out and wants to take him before he starts to look for them and not only that he fears him, and not only that he knows that no matter how much time its been Dumbledore still knows him.
At the end we get "one cannot live while the other survives"
lets say that this is true and harry destroys all of them and he himself is one, How to do so and lets say your right its his scar, there has to be a spell to remove it so he can save himself and if not the only way is to destroy it then harry must Voldermort and then he must ...
But its all a theory untill JK says and proves us all wrong... Lets hope that when the ly Hallows comes we all can get every question answered...
Posted by Joe from San Jose, Costa rica on January 8, 2007 3:06 PM
This was a very interesting and thought provoking article. Momentarily, it convinced me that Harry could be a Horcrux. Then I read the last paragraph of the article which, in my opinion, countered the entire arguement that had been previously stated. I do not see how Harry could be a Horcrux. If Harry must destroy the remaining of the seven parts of Voldemort's soul he would have to destroy Voldmort's body and himself simultaneously wouldn't he? If he destroyed himself first, then Voldemort would still live and the prophecy would be fulfilled. If he destroyed Voldemort first, then Voldemort would still live since Harry is a horcrux. It doesn't seem possible to me, at least for now...
Posted by Anthony from United States on January 8, 2007 3:08 PM
It is always a very interesting topic. Dumbledore hints that Voldmort wished to make a Horcrux with the Potter s. It is theoretically possible, as suggested above, that the process involved that and that when the spell went astray Harry could have thus become a horcrux. And, in OOP when Voldemort was hiding inside Harry perhaps he even saw the fragment and hence gives orders that Potter is not to be ed in HBP. If, however, JKR says Harry is NOT one, then that must settle it.
Now, if there is to be something from each founder (the preferred collection, per Dumbledore) how about a Ravenclaw Tiara? Please recall that we have at least 2 'red herring' or clue Tiaras in HBP. One is on top of the statue Harry uses to mark the HBP book's location and thus easily 'discovered' when back at Hogwarts to retrieve the book. The other is 'Goblin made' and belongs to an old wizarding family (Molly's relatives) and be conviently at the wedding.
Lastly, Harry's being a Horcrux could provide a spectacular 'surprise ending' (one of several including where he must 'play the hero' and to Voldemort whilst inside him). In the 'surprise ending' we would be led to believe that the horcruxes were destroyed... Harry faces down Voldemort and s him. All seems over.. then harry's scar hurts horribly and Voldemort returns in some other form from the scar... there is then a second confrontation and battle.
Posted by Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg, Pa on January 8, 2007 3:38 PM
"If he destroyed himself first, then Voldemort would still live and the prophecy would be fulfilled. If he destroyed Voldemort first, then Voldemort would still live since Harry is a horcrux."
This is interesting, because it basically sums up the last part of the prophecy "neither can live while the other survives." maybe that part of the prophecy is not reffering to the fact that one of them have to the other. Then, maybe there might be another part of the prophecy that is unknown to anyone yet. Just a theory.
Posted by alissa from New Jersey on January 8, 2007 4:29 PM
for me it seems a little too deep, im going with abc
I want Harry to , If he has to you know who then take his own life, Its a bit shady
god bless neville
Posted by myers from england on January 8, 2007 4:49 PM
What a great site! Dave, your articles always seem to put out enough contradiction to give rise to lots of thought and speculation. This one is seemingly a springboard for opposing ideas, but not really.
Actually, Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow to Harry. Obviously, his parents were going to protect their son, so they were ed first. But, we know from Dumbledore that Voldemort wanted to make a horcrux from Harry's (not his parents') as Harry's would be a "significant" . Why? The Prophecy. Voldemort was determined to get rid of the child who would be his equal and have powers he knew not. However, after reading other sites, I don't believe he used the AK on Harry. That is unblockable and is just a ing curse. And, we only have the fake Mad-Eye Moody's word that it happened that way. If Voldemort was going to make a horcrux with Harry's , I believe it is quite possible he used a different curse--the one that creates a horcrux. What he forgot at that moment (never having experienced the love of a mother) was that Lily's sacrifice, made after she bargained with Voldermort-my life for Harry's, would protect her son. Tom Riddle said as much to Harry in the Chamber of Secrets--something to the effect that he had overlooked the power of Lily's protection. If nothing can block AK, then it makes sense that he used the curse we still know nothing about-the horcrux-creating curse. It is blockable and Harry's survival is proof. But, in using that curse and Lily's blocking it, Harry became the Horcrux rather than the intended object. Why? Lily's sacrifice caused it to rebound on the caster of the curse-Voldemort. And, when the curse rebounded and he was reduced to "less than the meanest ghost", he lost all control over the events that were happening.
So, Dave, I too believe that Harry is a horcrux. He probably won't find out until the very last minute when the idea bites him on the nose. I haven't got a theory yet about how he rid the world of "his" horcrux but I believe all we have learned about their protections, the veil, and Dumbledore's desire to help Harry somehow converge at the final battle.
Posted by Hannah on January 8, 2007 5:20 PM
i feel as though if harry was to be destroyed by Voldemort then Voldemort wouldnt have given him the protection of "Mad-Eye Moody" Barty Crouch Jr. in the Goblet of Fire. However maybe Harry be the sixth horcrux and someone else perhaps Neville have to defeat Voldemort!
Posted by emily from new york on January 8, 2007 6:41 PM
How did you know that the ravenclaw artifact is her tiara?
And how could harry the dark lords dear snake without suspicion?
Posted by fangZ from bardwell pk NSW AUS on January 8, 2007 6:44 PM
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