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Is Harry the last horcrux?
by David Haber
In Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince, we learned that, to make himself immortal, Lord Voldemort ripped his soul into seven pieces, and created six horcruxes (the seventh piece of his soul still residing in his body). We know or suspect about five of the horcruxes. Is it possible that Harry is the sixth horcrux? There are clues to suggest that he is.
> Read the full articlePages: << < 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ... > >> Reader Comments: (Page 13) herve, You assume much.. I don't know why Harry's wand "chose" him, your theory seems thin, but admittedly plausible. but I can not accept Harry being a Horcrux. Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 16, 2007 06:34 AM
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When i fnished the book after reading it in one setting in the same day I believed Harry to be a Horcrux.
To me this means Harry IS a shard of Voldemort not that he hosts it.
Dumbledore makes a point that people are defined by how they act not their origin, etc.
He also believes in anybody's ability for goodness.
I assume that the story make a point that for all his evil a part of Voldemort remained good and became Harry. This seems to fit the tone of the series about love being more powerful that dark power, etc.
Since ing splits the soul, it can be understood to mean that it splits the basic goodness (that Dumbmedore believes in) from one's belief that he has no goodness.
The only thing bothering would the JKR statement that Harry is not a Horcrux.
I don't think that the theory "not anymore a horcrux because of taking his blood" fits. Blood is blood and is not a soul.
So if we follow the above reasoning, I can think of an alternate solution: not only Voldemort's plan backfired when he tried to Harry so that a Horcrux was created but it backfired also in such a way that Voldemort is the Horcrux (the secondary soul) and harry is now the main soul of the two. So JKR supposed statement is true (anyone knows where it is? It is important to find out the context. She is quite adept at double meanings, red herrings, etc.)
Any elements that this could or could not be? Posted by Leo Paris from Herblay, France on January 16, 2007 07:19 AM
It's simple: Harry isn't a Horcrux, but voldemort thinks he is, so there are only 6 Horcruxed (icludes the horcrux in voldemort). The horcrux that we don't know what is it, doesn't exist. Harry can voldemort after destroying Hufflepuff's cup (whereabouts unknown) and Nagini the giant snake! Posted by Tom on January 16, 2007 09:24 AM
A Horcrux is something you put a piece of your soul in OUTSIDE YOUR BODY to keep you from if your body is damaged/ed/destroyed. Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 16, 2007 10:42 AM
I'm still on the Harry's not a horcrux side, but I really like the theory by Herve, that Harry's scar could contain Voldy's horcrux in one of Fawkes' feather and that could make happy all the people who can't stand the idea of Harry's possible in book7...
Voldy has suffered a lot as an orphan, but that doesn't make him less culpable for his many many faults due to his hunger for glory, eternal life, power. He is the second powerful wizard in the world (Dumbledore, I miss you) but he underestimated the power of love, Lily's love for her son, and as a person Voldy makes mistakes as everyone else, Dumbldore included. I think that mommy Jo explain everything in a likable way, as usual, in the meantime, keep up the good work guys, this site is amazing...just like magic Posted by sabri from italy on January 16, 2007 10:58 AM
I changed my theory a little bit. I still think harry is a horcrux, here is a different theory. Voldemort cast the AK spell to Harry and ed his soul, and put 1/7 of his soul(the good side). Dumbledore said everybody has some goodness inside them, so voldemort gave all the goodness he had to soulless Harry. So I think, Harry doesn't have his own soul anymore, he is just the good sided 1/7th Voldemort. Think about the prophecy, it completely fits. Posted by Izzet from Turkey on January 17, 2007 05:30 AM
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It is generally stated that Voldemort tried to Harry because of the prophecy, and went for this reason to GH. It seems very logical and somehow obvious.
BUT there is one little thing that does not fit.
At the end of OotP, Voldemort doesn�t know more of the prophecy (he couldn�t retrieve it from the ministery, nor hear it, Trelawney was still at Hogwarts). He knows he marked Harry, he knows Harry has a special power, BUT he doesn�t know the prophecy is all about it, he doesn�t know that the one he chose IS THE ONE who can vanquish him.
Then, HE must consider that either HARRY OR NEVILLE have the power to vanquish him. The label on the prophecy says � Harry (?) �. The question mark shows it to be unreliable.
To make it sure, Voldemort HAS TO KILL BOTH HARRY AND NEVILLE. But Neville is here in the Ministery and nobody cares about him. Obviously, Voldemort is not trying to get rid of his potential enemies. Then, in attacking Harry, he is not trying to get rid of an enemy.
By telling Harry that Neville could be concerned by the prophecy, Dumbledore gives him (and Jo gives us) a strong hidden clue: when he attacks Harry, Voldemort doesn�t try to get rid of a potential enemy: Harry is special to Voldemort for another reason. Posted by herve from strasbourg on January 17, 2007 09:29 AM
I think Morty is so obsessed with Harry because Harry survived the un-survivable. No one had ever lived after having the avada' curse set upon them.
It adds to Harry's legend and the idea that some how Harry is too much for Morty..
I agree that there is much more to Nevile than we have seen thus far, but I think Harry is the "chosen one" beyond a shadow of doubt. Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 17, 2007 09:40 AM
Well, actually if Voldemort made seven "bits" of himself it would mean that one piece of these seven is still inside Voldemorts actual body, because without he wouldn't be able to live. That means: Harry first has to destroy Voldemorts actual piece of soul by ing his body and afterwards... commit suicide. Posted by Equinox from Gemany on January 17, 2007 09:41 AM
You got that a bit backwards, Equinox. Harry can't Voldemort until all the horcruxes are destroyed. The horcruxes keep Voldemort alive, so Harry has to do that first.
We sincerly hope that Harry doesn't have to himself and that J.K. solve this paradox some other way. Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on January 17, 2007 09:46 AM
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In the last few days I spent hours going through Jo's Interviews still searching if there was this statement saying "Harry is not a Horcrux". While I couldn't discover it, I found other very interesting facts.
Could it be that we mix it up with her denial, that Harry is not a METAMORPHAGUS? (being able to change into different appearances?)
I can't still make up my mind if Harry is one of Voldemort's Horcruxes. But in an other issue, I am now convinced I know why Voldemort wanted to spare Lily's life.
In one interview, Jo was asked what Lily and James did for a living. Her answer was: "I am sorry, can't tell because it is important to a later plot, but you find out later!"
During reading the books the first time around, we miss out the fact that five years had gone by since Lily and James left Hogwarts.
I'll bet that Lily worked at the Ministry of Magic, in the Department of Mystery,to be precisely in that locked room where they study amongst other things LOVE. Maybe she was one of the Unspeakable's and Voldemort was informed of that by our little rat Peter Pettigrew? Let's not forget he was one of their closest friends, together with Lupin and Sirius.
It would even make more sense than the theory that LV promised Snape to spare Lily's live. Even a younger Snape would not of been so delusional to believe that Voldemort would keep his promise.He would of given LV a weapon to blackmail him for the rest of his days...
Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow that night to James and Harry. Whatever his plans were with Lily, we don't know yet. Sure is that Lily was able to cast a spell, probably nonverbal. (we don't see a wand in the movie, and it is a fact that Jo was having her say in that particular scene) That unknown magic spell saved Harry's life and has everything to do with "Harry having Lily's eyes.
Someone also asked Jo if there are some special powers in the wizarding World, using their eyes to do something. Her answer was: There is something, maybe, coming about that. I am going to say no more, very clever...
So I am sure Harry while in search of the Horcruxes, have to go to that secret room and he find some clue what he have to do to defeat Voldemort. Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on January 17, 2007 09:59 AM
Mistral,
On several occasions, under emotional strain, Harry preforms magic without a wand or specific intent...the snake at the zoo in SS/PS, Aunt Marge in POA...
Mabey Lilly didn't need a wand or specific spell. She focused all her and power on saving Harry...just a thought. Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 17, 2007 10:22 AM
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