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Is Harry the last horcrux?
by David Haber
In Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince, we learned that, to make himself immortal, Lord Voldemort ripped his soul into seven pieces, and created six horcruxes (the seventh piece of his soul still residing in his body). We know or suspect about five of the horcruxes. Is it possible that Harry is the sixth horcrux? There are clues to suggest that he is.
> Read the full articlePages: << < 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 ... > >> Reader Comments: (Page 12) This is exactly what I thought about it. I think Voldemort tries to harry, because if he doesn't, Harry could voldemort and the horcrux save harry. I don't think that's a good plan to Voldemort. And this explain why they can't live if the other one is still alive. They both take part of the same soul... Posted by Katinka from The Netherlands on January 15, 2007 07:54 AM
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Kevin, I believe that Voldemort had the object with him and used it. Although that seems awkward, it could have been made from a bone he stole in Godric Gryffindor's grave (maybe the day he applied to be DADA teacher), then reduced to a very very small size. He gave it the shape of a very tiny snake. That was his Gryffindor relic, since he could not make it from the sword.
Voldemort used it to get part of his soul in Harry's body, in order to take further possession of him. The scar marks the Horcrux place, which fits very well with Voldemort "marking him as his equal". What else would be equal to Voldemort than his Horcrux? (Harry may have equal power to Voldemort, but is certainly not equal in evilness).
I know Dumbledore tells Harry that the mark came just because Voldemort missed his attempt. But this statement doesn't match the prophecy: it is not said "the Dark Lord mark him as his equal because he has power that the Dark Lord ignored"; it is said "the Dark Lord mark him as his equal but he has power that the Dark Lord ignored". Big difference, isn't it? Posted by herve from strasbourg on January 15, 2007 08:04 AM
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Charlie Tarbox suggests that Voldemort uses Harry's blood in order to "share the lingering protection Lilly placed in her bloodline for Harry". But if this is the case then why does Harry still need to go back to the Dursley's every summer? The fact that he still needs to go to the Dursley's suggests to me that Harry's protection from Lilly's bloodline is still in place and has not been transfered to Voldemort.
What about the following as a possibility? We know that the act of ing splits a wisard's soul the second part of which can be placed in an object in order to make a Horcrux. We also know that the ing curse back fired on Voldemort. Would it not be possible in that case that the ing curse did indeed Voldemort (i.e. Voldemort's body and the piece of soul in it) and the other piece of his soul, which had already split off but had not been placed in an object, is the one that got away and which needed a body? This would bring down the number of Horcruxes to 5 as opposed to 6! Posted by Aroosha from Edinburgh, U.K. on January 15, 2007 08:14 AM
Herve,
I believe the "power" from the prophacy is Lilly's protection.
If that protection rflected the avada' curse, Morty was toast before he had the chance to implant any of his soul from Harry's in anything.
Besides, Harry didn't . Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 15, 2007 08:26 AM
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Kevin, if Voldemort put something inside Harry, it was done before the AK curse on Harry, and then, the Horcrux was made from James' or Lily's , and not Harry's .
Then, the AK curse on Harry might have been necessary to liberate Harry's soul and let Voldemort's soul inhabit Harry. We've had no chance, up to now, to know exactly what happens in case of an AK performed towards someone that gets two souls, his own, and another one concealed and protected within a Horcrux.
And again, I think that the prophecy makes it clear that Voldemort marked Harry BEFORE Harry's power destroyed him.
Speaking of the prophecy, it says that Harry and Voldemort survive, but don't live. I guess surviving stands for "still being alive" and live for "being a full human, free from anyone else", what obviously Harry and Voldemort can't be in the situation where their souls are sharing a body.
At last, the Horcrux protects Voldemort's soul from being injured by Harry's power. When he tries to get out and invade Harry's body (OotP), Harry's protection is strong enough to expell him, maybe with a help from Dumbledore. Posted by Herve from Strasbourg on January 15, 2007 12:52 PM
Herve,
By "MARK", the prophecy may just mean Choose..
By "neither can live while the other survives" it could just mean that since Morty has already shown himself to be obsessed with ing Harry that neither of them be able to live thier lives until one of them has destroyed the other. Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 15, 2007 1:30 PM
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Mark meaning choose. It may or it may not. Who knows?
I just came with another idea about the scar being a Horcrux: sometimes, Fawkes is quoted as being closely related to Godric Gryffindor. We know that Olivander used a thin feather of Fawkes' tail for Harry and Voldemort wands. He did both wands with the feather, and there must have been some parts left unused from the feather. Now imagine that when he sold the wand to Riddle, he gave him the rest of the feather as a game or to show him how it was made(Riddle was a very curious boy, an orphan, one would have liked to please him). Then Riddle kept it carefully and when he heard that it was a relic from Gryffindor, and he got to know about Horcruxes, he decided it would be the support for his last Horcrux, the best one that gave him immortality.
The scar would contain that very thin piece of feather, folded as a Z and a couple of inches long.
That also would explain why the sister wand found Harry so easily. Posted by herve from strasbourg on January 15, 2007 2:02 PM
i dont aggree with a the whole "harry's a horcrux thing". if it is true that lily's sacrifice saved harry then voldemort's soul not be able to inhabit harry as love completely vanquish the soul if kept for a long time as shown in the order of the pheonix. Posted by mukil from madurai,tamil nadu on January 15, 2007 11:06 PM
Why would Voldemort try to cast Avada Kedavra on his horcrux though? Posted by Bartty from New Zealand on January 16, 2007 02:22 AM
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Here is my theory:
ALL of the horcruxes are:
1)Ring (destroyed)
2)Hp's cup
3)St's locket
4)Diary (destroyed)
5)Harry himself
The other 2/7th parts are, 1/7th is being used by voldemort, and the other 1/7th was destroyed when AK came back to Voldemort after trying to Harry in Godric's Hollow.
In DH, Harry finds and destroys 2 horcruxes, the locket and the cup. Then he finds out, he is one of the horcruxes. He then, takes the gryffindor's sword, finds Voldemort. They do a duel, and voldemort loses. Harry makes a horcrux from Voldemort's , and its the sword. Then, he finds Hermione and Ron, and they go to Godric's hollow. They make up the potion to use the horcrux, and harry s himself with the sword. Hermione and Ron use the potion, they use harry's father's bones, Harry's hand, and Harry's blood in the potion. Harry comes back to life. After defeating voldemort, harry takes the most powerful wizard title, and he gets an invite from Albus Dumbledore, to be the DADA teacher in hogwarts. Albus Dumbledore wasn't ed by Snape, it was Aberforth, they swap when Harry was bringing brooms: (I don't have my books with me right now, but its pretty accurate)
Rosmerta: "I have 2 brooms, should I go get them?"
Albus Dumbledore: "No, Harry take them"
and harry makes the Accio spell, bringing brooms. In this time, Harry and Rosmerta was looking to brooms when they are coming, the barkeeper, Aberforth Dumbledore, swaps his place with Albus Dumbledore. So, Aberforth dumbledore was ed at that night. You can say "what about the portrait in Dumbledore's room?" I say Albus Dumbledore put it there when Harry was getting his invisibility cloak.
Anyway, at the end, Albus Dumbledore is the Head of Hogwarts, McGonagall is Gryffindor's head, and Harry is Slytherin's head. Posted by Izzet from Turkey on January 16, 2007 04:09 AM
I've come along this site, and I have to say, it's great...
One fact that wasn't mentioned in the article...
There was a triumphant look in Dumbledores eyes when he heard that Voldemort used Harry's blood to get a new body in GoF. Now what if Harry WAS a horcrux and those blood drops actually undid that horcrux-thingy... then our dear Joanne wouldn't have lied if she said that Harry ist't a horcrux... since he isn't anymore. Since it is his blood, he still has some kind of connection to Voldemort, but he isn't a horcrux anymore... maybe Voldemort now is his own horcrux. Posted by Amber on January 16, 2007 05:44 AM
I just want to point out that a Horcrux cannot be 'used up' to come back to life. The idea is that until all seven pieces are earth-bound, neither piece can be liberated. So when the AK backfired on LV, he continued to live a spectral existence because the others parts of his soul were still on earth. He be ed when all the parts, including the one in his body are liberated.
Also, LV could not have just 'accidentally' made Harry a Horcrux. From what little we know about it, making a Horcrux is a complicated process and its unlikely that its spell involved a simple 'swish and flick'. A Horcrux has to be made intentionally with proper concentration. And Voldemort is the second most clever wizard we know of. Its highly impossible that he'd do it by mistake.
Also, there is a very good chance that his own wand is a Horcrux. He may have made into a Horcrux, using someone else's wand like one of his Eaters. Maybe Bellatrix. Posted by Aditi from Nagpur, India on January 16, 2007 06:10 AM
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