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We've had some wonderful posts here. I neglected to mention Marta from Poland and the well-thought out post she made. And, William and Mikey have also made some excellent observations. My sorting hat's off to everyone, but especially to those three.

I think we should all bow down to JKR for giving us a title so rich in possibilities. (And to Dave for running this site!)

I suspect that we'll see Harry back at Hogwarts, a trip into the Chamber of Secrets to find the Ravenclaw Horcrux, a repaired two-way mirror so that he can communicate with Sirius, the portrait of Dumbledore which tells Harry that the Hallows of Hogwarts are the key to the destruction of the Horcruxes, Snape's innocence--learned at Godric's Hollow when Harry goes there to search for a Horcrux, some minor battles on the grounds of Hogwarts, Grawp helping to protect the castle, and a final encounter at the Ministry of Magic in the special room that contains the power that Tom Riddle never understood. We'll learn that it's the room where Lily worked and echoes of her love help protect Harry. And, the Harry have brought the Hallows of Hogwarts there. Their union somehow expel the fragments of Riddle's soul--without destroying their outer form. Of course, while Gryffindor's sword never became a Horcrux--thus keeping Hogwarts safe all these years, the sword isn't the only relic that had belonged to him. Harry's cloak is the 5th one--thus completing the magical earth, wind, fire, water, and spirit.

The final act--Harry cast an "Expelliarmus" to disarm Voldemort at the same time that Wormtail tries to cast a spell to protect Harry. The combination send Voldemort through the veil.

Harry not have had to cast an Avada Kedavra, thus keeping his soul intact.

Then, JKR writes a lengthy epilogue in which we learn who survived and what they are doing now.

Just ramblings, and in no way certain as I'm not JKR (obviously!) But, I like to explore the possibilities.

Posted by Janis from Fayetteville, NC, USA on December 23, 2006 08:41 AM

I just heard today about the title, and as i've seen the the German translation I thought this can't be right, the media translated it, when I reltranslate it into English it's "Harry Potter and the ly Saint", but i never heard "hallows" as substantive, just as conjugated verb of "to hallow", so i thought i could be like benediction (i'm no aative speaker) but then there must be a gerund "hallowing", and if it'd have the meaning of "saint" it must be hallower... so i came to the conclusion that it must have to do with "All Hallows" because it's the only phrase where "hallows" is a substantive.

So... All Hallows that's a christian holliday 1. Nov. Hallowe'en 31.oct is "All hallows eve" many things in the Harry Potter Universe happened at Halloween. I remembered that Halloween is based on samhain, the celtic harvest festival, which's in the night of the eleventh full-moon, so the night from 31.oct to 1.nov. In
McBain's Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic Language they write "samhuin" means "hallow-tide" (holiday). And what happens then? According to Celtic lore, Samhain is a time when the boundaries between the world of the living and the world of the become thinner, at times even fading away completely, allowing spirits and other supernatural entities to pass between the worlds to socialize with humans. This reminded me of the veil in the ministry and the otherworld and also of prior incantatem. So i think it got to do with that because JKR always refuses information about the veil or the little mirror sirius gave to Harry.

And as s.o already mentioned there must be a difference between "ly" and "ly" ly comes from an adjective, ly from a noun. so what's the difference? ly is sth. that threatens or s, ly is when sth. is like, has the appearence of , although i recognized that sometimes both are used to describe a fatal action.
So i think that the title stands for that how it ends, at a halloween night, just how it all started, with help from the otherside

Posted by Matthias from Weiden, Bavaria Germany on December 23, 2006 09:38 AM

I have been thinking, ever since the first book, that Harry should find some way to undo Voldemort's original evil deed and BRING BACK HIS PARENTS. Characters often referred to James and Lily in saintly terms, so why could they not be the "ly hallows?"

Posted by Nunja Business from Silverhill, AL on December 23, 2006 11:44 AM

i think that ly hallows could mean like godric hollow, where harry was born. ; harry's parents d in godric hollow...and i think maybe the "final battle" between voldemort and harry could be there with the battle being on halloween (hallow)

but then again...did you ever think that the title could have no symbolization with halloween, godric hollows, the H's being everywhere, hallow being saint of saintly, or anything else?
maybe its just the name of a town or village

Posted by molly from north carolina on December 23, 2006 12:26 PM

First of all-- I was thinking about what someone said about 'Fatal Honor'.... Could that possibly refer to the honor for Eaters to be ed directly by Voldemort? After all, only special DEs got that treatment, right? Second, I wondered if possibly Spinner's End would show back up in book seven....
Since the beginning, most of the places in the books have occured more than once, though, admittedly, not all of them.... For example, the Zoo was only in PS. However, other places, such as the Ministry of Magic and St. Mungo's have been revisited. This could be because they are such important places to the wizarding world...
Since we're on the topic of saints, why not consider SAINT Mungo's as a possible meaning to the title? That is, of course, assuming that the title really does refer to saints...

Posted by Rhylinn on December 23, 2006 5:55 PM

im wondering when dumbledore said in OOTP that there is a room in dept. of mysteries wer great power is being kept.(kinda like that) is it some kind of a metaphor or a real thing?

btw...dont be fooled by the new title...like in HBP..we thought it was harry or voldemort but ended up that the HBP is snape....JK rocKS!

Posted by mark p from Phil on December 23, 2006 6:58 PM

I think that Godric's Hollow play a huge role in the book. The ly hallows be where the final battle between Harry and Voldemort be fought. Voldemort but harry not use Avada Kedavra to him.
I can still not think of book 7 as the ly
hallows. its such an unexpected title. i just cannot wait to get my hands on the book.

Posted by Saumya from India on December 23, 2006 10:50 PM

According to an article on Wizard News, "The ly Hallows" was registered, interestingly, without the "Harry Potter and", (possibly so as not to draw attention) on the 5th of December 2006.

However, these titles: "The ly Veil" (not ly) and "The Heart of Ravenclaw." were registered on the same day, by the same party.

Is this the other two titles that JK was considering? If so, it's possible they shed some light into what happens in the course of Book 7. Would it also tell us what are the ‘ly Hallows’?

However, it's also possible that they were not under real consideration as titles and they mean nothing at all.

Posted by Ash from Malaysia on December 24, 2006 12:14 AM

Having read the many theories and interpretations on this site something sprung into my mind. There have been many interpretations/translations of ly Hallows but none of us know who was right until publication. I was chatting to a friend of mine and we also came up with the idea that one way of looking at ly Hallows is to read it as Honoured ....who would be classed as Honoured ? Maybe those who had fallen in battle against evil? Does Harry get help from those fallen members of the order from beyond the grave?.......I admit, its one hell of a long shot!

Posted by John Hancock from London on December 24, 2006 06:15 AM

I've read some comments that were rather too religious, about God and taking the meaning of "hallows" as saints or to make something holy. I thing JK Rowling never mentioned any religion in Harry Potter (not directly I mean) and it would be very unlikely that she would begin to do such a thing in the last book. It may be about life, , love and soul but we should try not to stick it too much on religious concepts. I also don't think that Voldemort's horcrux are holy or sacred for him. If he thought that the parts of his soul were holy, I really don't think he would have splitted it into pieces so carelessly. They may be important and precious to him but I don't think we should search the possible holyness of hallows there.

Posted by Roxanne from Quebec, Quebec on December 24, 2006 07:36 AM

Ok, so here my story begins
I was driving from work to home and i was really angry cause i had a huge argue with our boss.
So I put the radio on for the six o clock news
Than the reporter tells in a few seconds what the name of the 7th book is
First I was in a shock, then people behind me shouted that the lights where green
So I raced home, to read it all

I think the name is perfect ( dont know why but its perfect =P )

Posted by groemp from The Netherlands on December 24, 2006 12:23 PM

i think ly hallows might be a organization or something because the dutch version is 'ly saints' right? and a saint is a person so it might be a group of ly saints. i dont know why but when i hear ly saints i think of inferi, maybe the 2 thing are linked...

Posted by huzaifah from london on December 24, 2006 1:52 PM

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