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yes of course as Dave says the Horcruxes would certainly be treasures for Voldemort. I was looking at the UK children's edition cover and I noticed something. Harry Ron and Hermione all seem to be in an archway that seems alot like the veil. They are surrounded by treasures. Is the answer to our question right on the cover of the book itself? Is this the secret treasure of ? The veil is associated with . And if that is the veil then there is a very strong chance that those treasures we see are in fact themselves the ly hallows. This of course brings us to the question, if these are the ly hallows what to do they signify? Finally I believe the reason why the Horcuruxes may not be the ly Hallows is because of the word ly. ly gives me the feeling something that would be strongly associated with . Horcruxes are supposed to prevent . Of course they cause the 's of many others but I still don't think they fit in. Even Relics of are associated to something that is already . The tomb of a person maybe called the relic of his . Horcruxes are the relics of an evil attempt to evade . and finally of course is the possibility that hallow maybe something holy. Even if Hallows here does not mean holy would Jo really use a word that may mean holy to describe a horcrux?

Posted by Abhay Doshi from India Mumbai on May 31, 2007 10:12 PM

I was thinking about what David said of human souls being definitely considered holy. What if ly Hallows refers to the souls of the people who Voldemort ed in order to make his horcruxes? Maybe somehow they help Harry in the last battle… I know Jo said that there wont be new characters in the last book, but maybe those people were already mentioned in the previous books, like Tom Marvolo father, whose Voldemort may had use to create his first horcrux.

Posted by Karina from Santiago on June 1, 2007 12:09 PM

I think that the title might refer to some sort of place where Harry can find his parents, Dumbledore, sirius, and other people for advice. The final matchoff might be in some sort of underworld or something

Posted by shortnsmart on June 1, 2007 10:52 PM

In february, Elizabeth from Australia, asked if anyone had read Elidor, by Alan Garner. I recently have, and was amused to find the story revolved around protecting 4 treasures of Irish mythology (Irish Hallows) and that in one scene the children walk down a street where houses are boarded by privet. Nearby are two streets named Rowena (Ravenclaw), and (professor) Trelawney. I did not think anything of this, until reading a Harry Potter editorial on the location of Hogwarts. Basically it claimed Hogwarts may be in Argyll, and that this location was chosen as it ties in with the stories relating to the kingdom of Dalriada and the Hallows.

Posted by mmc from sa, australia on June 4, 2007 11:04 PM

Personally, I don't think that the ly Hallows refer to anything we know about now. Think about it this way.
Pre-SS/PS we had no idea what a sorcerers/philosopher's stone was
Pre-CoS, we didn't know of the Chamber of Secrets
Pre-PoA, we didn't know of Sirius (the Prisoner), and I don't think we even knew of Azkaban
And so on and so forth. The title of each book shows something new that would be introduced. If, in fact, the new book's title refers to the Horcruxes, that would go against the set-up pattern of the introduction.

Posted by Nikki from USA on June 6, 2007 3:12 PM

mmc: Very interesting indeed. That must be one of Jo's numerous sources. The Hallows of Ireland are a good guess, because thay are related to the four elements, as well as the houses.

There are several references to number four in HP:
Four houses, related to four elements.
Four Horcruxes to be found
Four marauders
Four expressions in "Nitwit, Blubber, Oddment, Tweak"

Posted by herve from strasbourg on June 7, 2007 01:13 AM

Nikki - That's a very good point. And even those of us that did know what a Philosopher's Stone was before Harry Potter, we had no idea how it would tie into the story. And even though we heard Sirius' name before (Chapter 1 Hagrid tells Albus who gave him the motorcycle), it was pretty much just in passing and we had no idea of what his involvement in the whole incident was. Good catch!

Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on June 7, 2007 08:43 AM

Here's even another 4:

4 Privet Drive

Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on June 7, 2007 11:10 AM

There are two very special figures in HP saga, 4 and 7. They seem to play a different role.

Four seems to be the number of completion and plenitude, harmony. It's a very stable figure. Four is the mythical number for the elements: earth, fire, water, air. As long as the four elements are maintained together, you can build great things. Four is the number of the founders, of the houses in Hogwarts. When one of the founders goes away, the weaknesses appear.

Now, seven is a number used in initiatic quests. It's related to spiritual and moral assesses. Seven is the number of the steps in which you have to proceed in initiatic quests. If my memory is correct, seven is the number of tests Harry, Ron and Hermione had to do to get to the Philosophical Stone in PS. Seven is the number of books, of the years in Hogwarts. In each book, Harry has to show his moral powers. Seven occasions, including DH.

Seven: Voldemort went through the steps of dividing his soul into seven parts. He made six Horcruxes for that, and gained the highest level of Dark Arts, as he suggested to Slughorn. The fact he still has seven parts of soul is, to me, not very important now.

Four: there are four remaining Horcruxes. Those are the most important Horcruxes in the Voldemort's system. I suppose those Horcruxes are strongly connected, in essence and magically. Those Horcruxes should be related to the houses, to the founders, to the elements.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on June 8, 2007 07:12 AM

I beleive that it must be the amphitheatre in the Ministry of Magic where it must all end. Sirius's is not adequately elaborated and the BLACK VEIL I beleive have a part to play in this seventh book second in line only to Harry himself.

Posted by Amarnath from Chennai on June 14, 2007 12:09 AM

ly hallows or relics of are in my opinion the same thing. we must keep in mind the mystical -old english- language used by JRK in all the books. i think that hallows stands for "holy items" which in common is "relics". Now "ly" is a word that brings to mind danger, since is considered the utmost danger. what i understand is that the ly hallows are the horcruxes that contain the dark lord's pieces of soul. As in the previous book is demonstrated, every horcrux that has been destroyed produced a near experience to Harry or his friends. Dumbledore's hand was left permanently injured, Ginny almost d etc. So by all means the horcruxes can very well be considered ly as in " producing". What's more, Harry has to find and destroy 4 horcruxes. Interesting is the fact that the items that were used for them were coming directly from the personal items of the original founders of Hogwarts. Now, these items, personal belongings of the founders passed from bloodline to bloodline, can't very easily be considered relics, holy items or "hallows"?

Posted by kok from salonika greece on June 15, 2007 12:06 PM

In the third chapter of Half Blood prince, Dumbledore d, but if voldemort drinks the polyjuice potion and transforms into dumbledore, and in the seventh book makes everyone believe that he's dumbledore, in the end harry asks his favorite jam flavour, and then harry realises that he is voldemort and then the fight starts...

Posted by Apoorva HP fan from Dehradun , India on June 16, 2007 01:44 AM

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