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Foreshadowings in Prisoner of Azkaban
by David Haber
In an interview released around the time of the theatrical premiere of Prisoner of Azkaban, an interview which is also on the Prisoner of Azkaban DVD, J.K. Rowling said, "Alfonso Cuaron had very good intuition about what would and wouldn't work. He's put things in the film that, without knowing it, foreshadow things that are going to happen in the final two books."
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I just thought that maybe the whole seeing thing with lily's eyes isnt seeing something in somebody but some kind of...physical seeing something. like some secret to ing voldemort that noone else knows. just a thought.
Posted by zentam from new jersey on July 4, 2007 7:08 PM
"Sirius went a Joke too far once (one that we don't know about?), Did James or Sirius stop Snape getting top marks? Who knows, but I suspect this is one of the big things to be resolved in book 7."
Actually, we DO know what this joke was about. Sirius told Snape how to get past the Whomping Willow, when Lupin was transformed into a werewolf. This would have become Snape's , if James didn't stop him from entering the Shrieking Shack.
Posted by Jiska from Leiden, The Netherlands on July 5, 2007 06:52 AM
You forgot to mention the poster in Hogsmeade that displayed a wanted poster of Sirius. The significance of this is that underneath his picture, there were 2 runes, then 3 numbers. Although it would be hard to notice, maybe Joanne did.
Posted by Michelle from Toronto, Ontario on July 5, 2007 4:27 PM
Apart from the Lily story that suggested Lily's personality (as what brought her and James together in the end) given in this article, the rest seem quite out there. I don't agree with the rest.
Posted by Mahwash from Pakistan on July 6, 2007 1:29 PM
There is also a little bit of foreshadowing in the film 4. In the beginning when they travel by portkey with Cedric but then again at the very end of the film a port key becomes very very very important. And Harry is traveling with Cedric. Who knew that a port key would be that important.
Posted by HERMIONE from MACOMB, MI on July 7, 2007 08:29 AM
I defenitely think the Hermione theory is very far-fetched. The Snape one's pretty good though. After reading this it has convinced me that Snape can't really be evil, or at least on entirely evil. The thing in the Lily theory that intigued me was when Lupin says "Your mother was there at a time for me when no one else was." Is there any time we know of when Lily was there for Lupin when James or Sirius wasn't. It can't have been the whole werewolf thing because James and Sirius were very supportive of him in that. Maybe they did have a relationship. Hopefully we learn more about this in the 7th book.
Posted by Jenna on July 9, 2007 8:46 PM
Reading through everything here, I have to say that I've come across some truly fantastic ideas...The one that struck me as most fascinating is the 'Draco is a werewolf' theory...whoever came up with that...Kudos...you are a legend, I love it.
As for Snape protecting the kids...Yeah...I'm pretty sure that he owes James a life for the Whomping Willow incident...and thus this has been passed on to Harry as James is ...which doesn't mean that Snape is good (though I'd like to think he is, despite the piles of evidence there is against him, don't evenget me started) but that he just can't let harm come to Harry (thus his protecting Harry in PS).
Lupin and Sirius...As much as we fangirls may wish it to be so...I don't think so, it IS a children's book, and even though they have lesbians etc on kids shows to inspire awareness and tolerance now...I still think its unlikely that the publishers allow it, expecially after people had a fit over JK using 'swear words' like 'slut' in relation to Lavender Brown...and if THAT was forshadowing a relationship...Though, I think that the fact that Lupin is with Tonks is a poor excuse for anyone to say he and Sirius weren't together (hypothetically) as there is a certain something called 'bisexuallity'.
The Ron standing aside thing as Hermy comforts Harry? I didn't notice it, and didn't think it was significant, but who knows? Maybe Ron WILL betray Harry (lets not forget about the Imperius Curse, and he HAS turned on Harry before)...and that could tie in with the Hermione thing, maybe she'll have to be heartless and harm the one she loves to protect Harry and the wizarding world (Oh the drama!) though it is still far fetched.
And the 'your mother's eyes' thing...for sure...I'd love that to be true in respect of 'seeing the good in others'. I agree with the usual suspects to be seen as good, either Voldy, Snape or Draco (I know R.A.B was mentioned previously but thats silly as I'm convinced that its Regulus Black who is a reformed Eater thus making him a 'good guy') or all of the above? JK has given us reason to feel empathy for ALL of them.
Other things I've noticed, though they may not be relevant at all are:
a) Draco's approach to Harry...this spans throughout the whole movie, Draco is extremely casual towards Harry. They're almost...not completely hateful towards each other...and whats with the flying origami bird? I'm not saying they're or anything (I wish, but again, childrens book...and the fact that JK LOVES Ginny and thinks she's 'perfect' for Harry *seethes*)...but perhaps a sort of...lets say 'tolerance' for each other is implied?
b) The pendulum in the entrance to Hogwarts...again, suggestive of time etc etc...maybe it IS very significant...though it'll only make things complex as JK has adopted a very silly space/time continuum theory which really doesn't make logical sense...
c) The Room of Doom.
Okay maybe this one won't make an appearance in the 7th book, but I'd really, REALLY like it to.
In PoA if you look at the Marauder's Map when Harry is looking for Pettigrew, you can distinctly see a room called the 'Room of Doom'...I thought that it was a VERY odd thing to have on the Map...so I dunno if JK thought it was significnat...I can't even begin to imagine how it'd be important to the 7th book, but it seemed like it was worth taking note of, even if it turns out to be nothing at all.
Posted by Lora from Sydney, Australia on July 12, 2007 06:37 AM
I recently saw the Order of the Phoneix and I was very suprised after reading the article about Sirius coming back as a dog...that "Loony" said to Harry (and this isnt verbatim) that basically sometimes the things we lose come back to us...but not always in the same form. This is a pretty big case of foreshadowing in my opinion. Although we don't see Sirius in the 6th book, I do think we probably see him in the future...possibly in dog form?
Posted by Mike from Toms River, NJ on July 12, 2007 7:40 PM
Dave Haber, i agree with this article but wanted to point out two events in the movie which did not happen in the book which i believe may foreshadow events in HBP and possibly DH.
First, when Harry falls from the sky during the Quittich match because of the dementors, Dumbledore says (wandless, i might add) "Arresto Momentum" to stop or slow Harry's fall. Harry awakens on the ground and we hear Ron remark about Harry's poor condition. One of the Weasley twins says "Ron, let's throw you off the Astronomy tower and see what you look like."
I think that this event was significant when it comes to foreshadowing Dumbledore's fall. First, is it possible that Dumbledore could have slowed his own fall? And secondly, note that Harry did indeed fall a great distant and survived! Perhaps Dumbledore did too.
Of note, in the PoA book after Harry falls we read "Lucky the ground was so soft."
"I thought he was for sure."
"But he didn't even break his glasses."
Mmmmmm? Curious. In the book too, Harry falls a great distance and survives. Assuming in HBP that Snape did not really perform the AK curse, but really did another nonverbal spell, why couldn't Dumbledore have survived the fall? Harry did.
The second example from the movie may foreshadow Harry's fate in DH. Another line in the movie which in not in the book is one by Professore Trelawney. During the first Divination class she points out that Harry has the grim. In the movie she says something to the effect of "you , but you be happy." YIKES! I really hope that i'm wrong about this, but this may be Harry's fate in DH. He may gladly sacrifice himself for the better good. Like I said, I really hope I'm wrong. (and that trelawney is wrong, too) Only a few more days.
Posted by Heather from NJ on July 12, 2007 8:59 PM
Something that I always felt stood out in PoA was how friendly Crookshanks was to Sirius and was constantly trying to get hold of Scabbers. I have always felt that Crookshanks was somehow linked to Lily Potter. So if the whole theory of Sirius coming back as Padfoot, I think it would be highly possible that Lily was an unregistered Animagus as well (just as James, Sirius, and Peter were), who comes back as Crookshanks.
Posted by Candice from Roanoke, VA on July 12, 2007 10:15 PM
Mike from Toms River, i caught that too in the movie OoTP when Luna tells Harry that the things we lose often come back to us...but not always in the same form. I immediately thought of Sirius...but also Dumbledore.
Posted by Heather from NJ on July 13, 2007 12:18 PM
I have a simple idea regarding the importance of the 'you have your mother's eyes' theory.
What if, in book seven, we discover that Harry DID in fact have other family - other family he did not know about. It is said that Lily came from a muggle family - one that, as is shown by the stance taken by the dursleys - was not known to the family.
This means that somebody, somewhere, at some time in the past for the Evans family, was a witch or wizard, who married a muggle. This gives way to several possibilities.
What if Lily's family tree ties Harry to somebody else by blood? Not just anybody, but perhaps somebody even Harry couldn't foresee. What if it was even Severus Snape?
Sounds ridiculous, eh? Allow me to at least entertain you. In the fifth book, we see in the 'Snapes Memory' chapter, that Snape was tormented and on this occasion heavily bullied by James and Sirius. Who steps up to his aid? Lily Evans. This could just be because of her 'kindness' and ability to 'see the best in others', but what if she had some other kind of relationship with Snape? What if they were even related?
Snape's memories are comprised of images of him as part of an unstable and even abusive family. Lily shows him kindness despite his 'hated' status. It is indeed possible that Snape defends Harry on numerous occasions not only due to the he has with James, but out of the gratitude he had for Lily for her help. Even if they weren't related, this would stand as a valid reason for Snape's aiding of Harry.
Perhaps Snape looks at Harry and sees those same eyes he saw when Lily would help him, or even comfort him. Perhaps this is why he stopped being a eater - his actions when he overheard the prophecy resulted in the of one person he held in high esteem. Maybe even loved.
And this could be the 'big thing' we find out about lily. it could be the link that chains it all together. Maybe Snape loathes harry because he is not only his fathers son, but he acts exactly as his father did instead of as his mother did. At the same time, Snape repays his to James by saving harry in the first book - but he still has his to Lily, which he can never repay. She showed him kindness when nobody
a quick Synopsis: perhaps because of family ties, infatuation with lily or out of a he owes her, Snape may be tied to Harry in a way not previously thought about...
Posted by James from Dublin. ireland on July 13, 2007 5:11 PM
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