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Foreshadowings in Prisoner of Azkaban
by David Haber
In an interview released around the time of the theatrical premiere of Prisoner of Azkaban, an interview which is also on the Prisoner of Azkaban DVD, J.K. Rowling said, "Alfonso Cuaron had very good intuition about what would and wouldn't work. He's put things in the film that, without knowing it, foreshadow things that are going to happen in the final two books."
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I have read most of your comments and would just like to say that you are an amazing writer and reader. After reading this article, I have to say that I find it very unlikely that Hermionie is a "double agent". I think that there are a few people at Hogwarts that might seem smarter than everybody else, but I think that if you look closer you'll understand why this is so. Hermionie reads during the summer, she always does her homework corectly, and much more. But one thing that stands out to me the most is if Hermionie was a "double agent" then why would Dumbledore have chosen a person that only gets an Exceeds Expectations on her DADA O.W.L.?
Posted by Vanessa from Toronto, Ontario on December 26, 2006 10:22 AM
I really enjoyed this article! Although I find most of them very unlikely, there is one that caught my attention the moment I read the quote:
"Professor Lupin and Harry on the covered bridge
After the Defense Against the Dark Arts class in which Lupin stops Harry from confronting the boggart, Harry and Lupin meet on the covered bridge. In this scene, Lupin says:
"The very first time I saw you Harry, I recognized you immediately. Not by your scar, but by your eyes. They're your mother, Lily's. Yes. Oh, yes. I knew her. Your mother was there at a time for me when no one else was. Not only was she a singularly gifted witch, she was also an uncommonly kind woman. She had a way of seeing the beauty in others, even and, perhaps, most especially, when that person could not see it in themselves."
We've been told that Harry having his mother's eyes would play an important part in the last book. Here, Lupin tells us that he recognised Harry by his eyes, his mother's eyes. and that Lily "had a way of seeing the beauty in others...". Perhaps the foreshadowing is not that Lupin and Lily had some sort of spark, but of the meaning of the importance of her eyes.
Posted by Paige from Hamilton, Ontario on December 26, 2006 11:26 AM
I cracked up laughing when i read those! In a good way! I was funny beacuse you made it sound like Sirius and Lupin are OR Lily cheated on James with Remus OR Hermione is an old hag trying to act young! I like them. Adds a twist to what you think about and we all know J.K. Rowling is the Queen of making us think in one direction but acctually she going in the opposite! Its wicked! I loved it!
Posted by Chelsi from CA on December 30, 2006 04:46 AM
Whoa, I won't even get into that disussion about Snape, Lily and Narcissa. But staying on the topic love, I believe it play an important role. It is the power that Harry possesses that the Dark Lord doesn't know of, and it is also an important subject in the Half-Blood Prince, as Harry gets together with Ginny, who again has a close similarity with Lily. I believe this love bond plays a significant role in the fight against Voldemort, and that Harry can't defeat Voldemort without the help of Ginny.
At the same time, Harry's and Lily's eyes may also play a part in turning someone from the bad side to the good, and as someone so cleverly pointed out, Lily and Ginny have a great resemblance. I could easily imagine Ginny convincing Harry to spare someone's life and give the person a second chance.
My best guess as to who might be turned from bad to good would be Draco, as he doesn't seem to be completely evil. It can't be Snape, as he isn't evil at all, just acting on the orders of Dumbledore. Some might say Voldemort himself might be a possible candidate, but he can't live if Harry lives, right? Well, what if Voldemort 's', but Tom Riddle instead is 'revived', just on the good side? I know, it doesn't seem likely, actually it seems compltely nuts, but the thought hit me and I just thought I'd share it with you guys.
Posted by Daniel Blom Paulsen from Esbjerg, Denmark on December 30, 2006 06:42 AM
Just a thought but what if the reference to Lily is forecasting that Harry sacrifices himself to save someone close to him (maybe Ron/Hermonie)? This would obviously make Harry very much like his mother. What does everyone else think bout this theory?
Posted by kaylee from newcastle(uk) on December 30, 2006 08:19 AM
I've found this website fascinating, as well as the many pages of comments from everyone voicing their ideas. Some of them I share and some I think are preposterous, but all the same I agree that things are never quite what they seem to be in JK's books, and regardless of what happen in book 7, we are all in for a great surprise.
I know this article was about scenes from the POA movie that could foreshadow events in books 6 & 7, but some of you have mentioned the priori incantatem from GOF in your postings... and something has always bothered me about that chapter in book 4. As priori incantatem starts, we see a severed arm (wormtails), followed by Cedric, then the muggle gardener, Bertha Jorkins, and then... Harry's dad. If priori incontatem works in reverse order, as we know it does, than it seems Voldemort ed James AFTER he ed Lily (pg. 667)
As every description we have had of the events leading to James & Lily's s has pointed to James being ed first and then Lily second, I'm wondering if this is just an error in the books or if it's significant...
Posted by Christina from Tallahassee, FL on December 30, 2006 12:52 PM
Christina, it is an error. I can never remember the right order, but she made a mistake in some editions. It was in the earliest American editions, if I remember correct.
Posted by Daniel Blom Paulsen from Esbjerg, Denmark on December 31, 2006 04:34 AM
I just thought of something
If Hermione is an older which, then why would she put so much work into school? Wouldn't she already know it? Also, Hermione acts like an 11 year old, not a woman when she is attacked by the troll. And she is the same way in her fith year while she goes to meet Grawp (Hagrid's half bro) and when they go into the forbidden forest when the centars come. She acts like a teenage girl.
But I also have another idea. What if Hermione went forward in time and saw herself exactly the way Trelawny explained it. Maybe time turners can go forward in time. Then she would just have to go backwards once in the future.
Another thing about the whole "Hermione is really an older which" thing. I would like everyone to remember that this is a CHILDREN's book! And it would be just plain creepy if an older women had a crush on Ron and also "went out " with Krum. This is also why I think the whole thing is impossible as well.
Posted by Kate from Wisconsin on January 1, 2007 4:07 PM
What if Petunia was involved in some way in Lily and James' ? We know very few about what really happened. Was Voldemort alone? What was his real purpose? I have a slight idea about this, and it would clearly need the help of a grown-up muggle, Petunia being the best choice. In that case, she would most probably have performed un Unbreakable Vow and Voldemort would have told her a bit about wizardry. That would explain why she was so much frightened about magic world, especially about Voldemort coming back. But maybe she is just afraid of Dumbledore. We haven't many hints.
Also speaking of Dudley, why is Petunia acting as if she was afraid of him becoming a wizard (she never lets Dudley get angry, she feeds him in a way that is dangerous to his health, then changes her manners when he turns eleven or so). Is Dudley a failed wizard. Was there something in the prophecy we did not hear of?
Posted by herve from strasbourg, france on January 3, 2007 06:59 AM
As I was checking some of the quotes on the IMDB.com for PoA, I noticed a few more possible foreshadowings.
Right after Peter Pettigrew is seen in Harry's dormitory and McGonagall has asked Sir Cadogan if Sirius Black has entered the Common room, she turns around and asks Neville:
Professor Minerva McGonagall: Is it always going to be you, Longbottom?
Neville Longbottom: I'm afraid so, Ma'am.
Foreshadowing or not? Who knows, but it feels like one.
[Hermione looks at Ron's broken leg, and they flirt by mimicking Malfoy and Pansy Parkinson]
Hermione: Ow! That looks really painful.
Ron: It's sorta painful. They uh, they might... chop it.
Hermione: I'm sure Madame Pomfrey fix it in a heartbeat.
Ron: It's too late, it's ruined. It'll have to be chopped off.
This, among lots of other scenes clearly shows some attraction in between Ron and Hermione IMO.
I don't know if I had a point saying this, but it just popped up as I read the quotes.
Posted by Rane on January 3, 2007 07:02 AM
Mistral, Ian Holm would be wonderful, I would love to get Leo McKern to do it... just one minor problem with that of course...:-) Richard Griffiths would be perfect if not for the fact that he's already Uncle Vernon...
I think however the best I could come up with would be Terry Jones... (and have Nearly Headless Nick offer him spam)...:-)
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 3, 2007 09:24 AM
And as long as I'm casting the movie.. Rufus Scrimgeour should be played by Geoffrey Palmer..
just for fun...two characters that most likely won't be in the movie.. who do you think should play..
The vampire from Sluggy's party..(can't remember his name right now) and the writer that wants to write Harry's biography
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 3, 2007 11:25 AM
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