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Final Deathly Hallows Debates: Who Lives and Who Dies?
We know for sure that some characters are going to die in Deathly Hallows. Last year in an interview, J.K. Rowling said that two characters die who she had not originally thought would die in the end of the story. That means at least two characters die, but probably more. And that's probably not counting Harry and/or Voldemort. So who lives and who dies? Tell us who you think will die, and more importantly, why you think so.Pages: << < 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 > >> Reader Comments: (Page 59) I just can't stand the thought of the main three characters being ed off...after all they have been through and fought to achieve, it just seems unfair...but then again, who said life (real or fictional) is fair?
I think Snape is evil, but I think Harry holds out hope that there was a plan between Snape & Dumbledore...to not have that hope is to have to admit to himself that Dumbledore could make a mistake and it make him second guess everything Dumbledore was showing him before his .
I think Harry is definately a horcrux, have thought so since it was revealed to us what a horcrux is, it explains his mental connection to voldemort, similar to having an ariel (thats a metal thing that brings in channels for you younger folk!)for FM stations, he is just wired to receive those signals. I believe that it can work to Harry's advantage though in the final showdown, when he has to slay Voldemort, as poor as Harry is at Occlumency, I believe if he "tunes" into Voldemort, Voldemort won't be able to shield his mind from Harry either, giving him an advantage. So far Harry hasn't tried to reach out to the Dark Lord.
I think Ron & Hermione are destined to be together, as are Harry & Ginny, making them the family Harry never had.
I think that Dudley is magical also, and that Dumbledore somehow suppressed his ability as part of the agreement with Aunt Petunia to take Harry in...otherwise, what did the message mean "remember my last...?" Posted by Susan from Ontario, Canada on July 18, 2007 8:42 PM
What if we combine the theory that Dumbeldore has found a way to break the doctrine and consider that all those who loved harry and d can add their powers together to beat Voldemort. Posted by American from Chicago on July 18, 2007 10:15 PM
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PKJ from Middle Tennessee, USA:
Again, Thanks for your insight and the compliments, but in reply to your statement
“But I can not and not agree to the possibility that Voldemort is in any way (except with the donated blood from HP in Goff) blood-related to HP”.
You are right again. There is no proof either way that I know of that the Riddles or the Evans are related or not related. I cannot find anything written by JHR stating either way. So maybe they are related through Harris father James Potter and Tom Riddle’s mother Merope Gaunt. It is well known that the pure blood wizard families were very inbred, which both the Potter and Gaunt families were. One other trait that is rare and stands out is that Tom Riddles Uncle Morfin is a Parselmouth... Harry also shares that trait. As does Lord Voldemort. It has been assumed it was transferred to him by the exchange between Lord Voldemort and Harry when he was 1 year old. But it is possible that it might be hereditary.
Posted by Pamela sue from ark:
In response to your question clarification;
I didn't make myself clear. What I was trying to get across was that voldemort knew that Lilly was a descendent of godric gryfindore, and that’s the reason he told her to said aside
The thing we need to remember is that Lilly was a muggle that had natural wizarding ability so she could not be a descendant of Godric Gryffindor unless she was a product of some type of union between his descendants and hers in the past that no one knows about. I agree with you about a secret that Petunia knows that has not come out yet. And you could be right about their background. Who knows? Maybe that is why Petunia is so jealous of her late sister and treats Harry so badly.
Also one other thing I want to add, I think both Arthur and Molly Weasley are ed by the eaters in Book 7. The reason why is because Molly's brothers Fabian and Gideon, both of them members of the Order of the Phoenix, were violently ed during Voldemort's first rise to power. Since JHR has warned of “at least” two other s and she tends to leave clues in her older books, I think that is a pretty good bet since Molly sees a Boggart change shape to show her all her family, lifeless, ed in the war with Voldemort in “Order of the Phoenix. Or maybe it is all the Weasely children? Who knows...? Posted by calicorey from san jose ca on July 18, 2007 11:34 PM
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Oh, who ...who? I feel...
Voldemort, definitely, can't be any other way, can it?
Ron and/or Hermione, but, I don't know, both of them seems a bit too much...I might even think it bad writing for both to go...
- I could see Ron because he's Harry's ultimate best friend, but I could see Hermione (though not at all in vain), which would hurt both Ron and Harry deeply...
Hagrid, as much as I hate to think of it, I could really see him ...not right away, mind you, probably more near the end in an attempt to protect Harry...and I almost wonder if this is the character J.K. Rowling meant when she said she started bawling...because I could, then, imagine it being a very sad to witness, and I might as well assume that the one who witnesses it is Harry...
Snape, since I feel strongly that he is on the 'good side', to save Harry. It's a common belief on this site, it seems, and rightfully so...how can it be otherwise?
I am completely in the middle on whether Harry . I know heroes do in stories, but...I don't know, something about the way Harry is and the way his life has gone, it just doesn't seem right that he would in the end. I suppose that if Voldemort s, then Harry wins regardless of whether he also s, or lives...but, y'know, all the Harry Potter books previously end with Harry. Shouldn't it be the same? Maybe not...
Someone had a good point when they said that it would be better off for Harry if he d, because he would be reunited with Sirius and his parents and Dumbledore and anyone who s in book 7...but I somehow think (hope!) Rowling would be able to find a way to end this happily for all parties. Hmm... Posted by Katie T from California on July 19, 2007 12:24 AM
In book 1 (Hagrid, or who was it) said, that the scar Harry had was the scar left from a terrible curse. AK leaves no scare.
Ding ding. Posted by Stephen from Netherlands on July 19, 2007 02:34 AM
I think Ron , and Harry end up with Hermione. But Hagrid survive actually! I would be surprised if both Ron and Hermione, as well as Harry, survives tho. Ron , because Hermione has a bigger chance of surviving, as she is smarter. Posted by Mia from Sweden on July 19, 2007 03:12 AM
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With regards to how Harry Voldemort, I brought up to my geek squad friends as we were at a diner after seeing the OoTP movie, "Why can't Harry just pull an Indiana Jones on Voldemort to him?" This of course is referencing the first Indiana Jones movie where the guy was going off all sfully with a sword challenging Indiana and Indy just pulls out a gun and shots him with a look of "Duh, that was easy!" on his face.
The same applies to the movie and tv show "Highlander." Actually, they had a couple of episodes were some of the evil immortals used guns in their sword fights. So why can't Harry do it here. He could be distracting Voldy with a wand duel and then with his free hand pull out a handgun and bang! There's something Voldy didn't see coming!
Or a knife. Or a noose...Why does it have to be something magical that s Voldemort?
Mind you all, I am no way endorsing or encouraging the use of guns. And I truly think that if I was a parent this is not the way I'd want my kid reading about Voldemort's demise. I'd rather read what my friend suggested, "Spider, it's going to involve someone from each of the Houses. Remember that the Sorting Hat told them they need to unite. That's been a theme throughout the book. And it's going to involve Love."
Perhaps Harry cause Voldemort to lose his strength by forgiving him. That's quite powerful magic that works even in this world. And that's magic that would give Harry more strength than any he could have harboring anger towards Voldemort (or Snape). Then in his weakened state, Voldemort is vanquished by Harry and company.
That's quite nicer than guns. Posted by Spider from Union City, NJ on July 19, 2007 04:55 AM
ive seen loads of difrent theores on the where the ly hallows is, but most have overlooked the last page of hbp.
ron says they, meaning harry, hermonie and ron, need to go back to his mum and dads house. thats not important though the next bit is, as ron continues to say ever before godric's hallow and that is where harry's parents are burried. so i think the last scene in the ly hallows book end in a grave yard, but where it is i dont know. plus the trio wont in the final book im sure of it. Posted by darren from denny on July 19, 2007 05:44 AM
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Hey! I can't wait till midnight to get the book! First, I'd like to say that Harry CANNOT ! It would become common knowledge to everyone and then the next generation of kids won't read it because they know Harry s in the end. Second, Harry is not a horcrux. Third, everyone has been mentioning the time JK gave in interview. When she was asked who she would invite to a party (or tea, whatever you call it), she said Harry,Ron, Hermione, then paused asking if she could invite people. You all seem to think that means she trying to think of someone else BUT what if she's just checking that she COULD invite Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Also, everyone seems to think Wormtail is going to for Harry because he owes him a life . Hello, Wormtail is a eater. What is making everyone think he's going to suddenly switch sides? I know, I may bite my words in a few days. But, you all have the same idea about Snape. Some of you have mentioned that JK likes to put false clues in her book. Soo... why are you all CONVINCED that Snape is on the good side? I think Ginny . It's true that Harry broke up with her, yada yada yada. Voldermort knows Harry loves her. Lupin probably , leaving Tonks miserable. Lupin is the next fatherly figure in line to Harry. Well, we'll find out what happens soon enough. Posted by HPFan on July 19, 2007 07:12 AM
I really don't want the trio to .
Or Snape.
Or Lucius Malfoy - the last two because they have the best character's and voices in the world!
and snape is dishy!
But yeh.. she said it's going to be a blood bath. meaning shouldn't we be thinking about who survive, not who , because seriously, i think it's going to be carnage.
Who MUST (i hope) survive:
Harry - because otherwise JK be the most hated person on EARTH!
Ginny - because she is the one who he has loved throughout and he deserves her!
Ron - because he is Harry's best friend and there are others who would glady give their lives to save the boy - and plus he has to get with Hermione!
Hermione - because her and Ron MUST be together
Mrs.Weasley - because she take care of Harry for the rest of her life like she is his mother. Posted by Graciee from Englanddd on July 19, 2007 07:25 AM
There are so many mysteries in this series that sorting out the important from the tricks is difficult. Many of the things we think are important just be minor and trivial. Sometimes a bludger is just a bludger.
I think that Dudley is a wizard. There is obviously a strain of wizards running through Petunia, so it seems likely that there is something in Dudley as well. The ideas that there is a connection between Godric Gryfindor, Lily, and Petunia seems reasonable. Perhaps the reason that Dudley has been so spoiled is to keep him from performing some form of magic. Additionally, in HBP Dumbledore mentions that Harry has escaped the "appaling damage" done to Dudley. Now that could just mean that Harry has not become a spoiled brat, but it also could mean that Dudley has not been told the truth about who he is. Posted by WordBearer from Houston Tx on July 19, 2007 07:35 AM
I hope Harry doesn't and none of the weasleys but i have the feeling that snape (whether good or bad) is going to snuff it... Posted by Maithri hegde from Bangalore,Karnataka,India on July 19, 2007 07:51 AM
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