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Final Deathly Hallows Debates: Who Lives and Who Dies?
We know for sure that some characters are going to die in Deathly Hallows. Last year in an interview, J.K. Rowling said that two characters die who she had not originally thought would die in the end of the story. That means at least two characters die, but probably more. And that's probably not counting Harry and/or Voldemort. So who lives and who dies? Tell us who you think will die, and more importantly, why you think so.
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Reader Comments: (Page 43)
1. Vol- or all the books go to waste
2. Lupin-when fighting with Fenrir
3. Lucius/Narcissa-protecting their son Draco
4. Hagrid- my senses tell me...even though no one can him....
they should advertise and say "when purchasing a harry potter book, you get a free tissue box!"
Posted by Princess Shabalama tabalama Ding dong from Privet Drive, Hogwarts on July 13, 2007 2:49 PM
I wonder who R.A.B. is!
Posted by Tashita from Holland on July 13, 2007 2:56 PM
Ok, so I totally fell behind. I have some stuff to reply too:
Firstly, the movie was the best out of all of them. Wonderful job of portraying the fight in the DoM. I enjoyed the entrance, very Sirius style! Wish they had made the movie longer though, shortest out of the last few.
HORCRUXES! No where does Dumbledore say anything about a limit of seven to my knowledge, I'll check when I have a book with me. Voldemort asks if you can make more than one and asks if 7 would be the most powerful because it's the most powerful number. Dumbledore only says that there are 6 in the world, 1 in Vold. That's all.
VERY good point about Harry's scar and it being the Horcrux and it being destroyed because Voldemort used Harry. I loved that! I forgot about the comment about Dumb's look of triumph. Let's all remember, JK gives us clues and hints into the future with description of expressions and details of normally un-important things. This is also why I believe that Snape is still good, she puts some much into describing his face when Harry is chasing him and yelling at him. The way she describes his face makes me think that he was in so much pain from what he had just done.
LASTLY! I never said, nor did anyone backing me up, that Voldemort knew he made Harry a Horcrux, so of course he doesn't know he's trying to destroy one by ing Harry! But Harry is def a Horcrux from the prophecy, his scar, that there is an un-accounted for Horcrux, and because I say so.
Will check my book when I get home to make sure I'm not a fool about the Horcruxes.
Posted by Matthew from Peoria, Arizona on July 13, 2007 3:18 PM
i think you think way to difficult right now. We all must not forget that harry potter is still a book (also) made for children. although HP is becoming more and more harder, scarier and darker, i don't think JK Rowling come up with such a difficult plot. This is also the reason that i do not believe that harry . My little sister surly not survive harry's !
I thought about it for a very long time and i think now that Mrs weasley . From the beginning of harry potter, the weasley's are one happy family. Mrs weasley is the centre of this. The boys always teasing her. Always full of stress.. i think Rowling show us that the most wonderful families and persons not be sparred in war.. And be torn apart (what is already happening with percy...)
The other one who is snape of course. I also think Hagrid . Because someone very close to harry has to . Hagrid is in some way family to harry. he is his big supporter from the start. His famous brother Gwarp, who is finally civilised by that time, the Giants-leader with help of Madam Maxime and become the leader of this group. And because i think ron and hermione both survive (harmione is a "mudblood" and prove that she is better that the pure blood wizards! Ron is nearly but survives..Harry has endured way to much losses (parents, sirius, dumbledore), i don't think his best friend as well. Neville become a teacher at hogwarts in herbology so survives as well) Ginny won't because true love survives everything....
Posted by m van treijen from rotterdam, the netherlands on July 13, 2007 3:29 PM
To Matthew from Arizona:
You said: "HORCRUXES! No where does Dumbledore say anything about a limit of seven to my knowledge."
Wrong---Check HBP page 503 (US hard edition, Chapter Horcruxes)--Dumbledore said, "But firstly, no, Harry, not seven Horcruxes: six. The seventh part of his soul, however maimed, resides inside his regenerated body. That was the part of him that lived a spectral existence for so many years during his exile; without that he has no self at all. That seventh piece of soul be the last that anybody wishing to Voldemort must attack--the piece that lives in his body."
So that is where I get the 6 horcruxes plus one (soul in body) number. I have 7 days and a few hours till I begin the final journey. Can't wait.
Posted by PKJ from Middle Tennessee, USA on July 13, 2007 5:13 PM
one, rowling isnt gonna care if little kids are devastated, they were by sirius, my sister was mad and actually started crying. JK has never shown any problem ing off main characters so i think that, in following with english lit, she off maybe not harry (though biggest possibility so she doesnt have to write another one) but one of the trio.
Posted by Andrew from Lexington, KY on July 13, 2007 5:38 PM
Just read that also. Sorry it took me so long to get home. True, it does say that. But when Dumbledore's listing them there's an unaccounted one. Couldn't that be Harry or his scar as that other comment stated? It doesn't say 7 is the limit. It says that Voldemort would try and make 7. I think there's something to that comment that stated that when Harry tells Dumbledore about the graveyard he gets that look on his face.
Also, to Andrew:
Of course she cares! Haven't you watched any of her interviews? It's not just the kids, it's HER! This is a huge part of her, we have to remember that she's basically going to be ing off friends of hers. Characters she's plainly said she cares a great deal about! Whoever she s or how, it had to be hard and I seriously doubt she'll off many people! Because I for one am not so wrapped up in wanting Voldemort stopped to give up all these people that I've enjoyed reading about since I was so young! I'd rather they all live by the end of 7 and her keep Voldemort alive than them off for him to be finish! But I'm a sentimentalist.
Posted by Matthew from Peoria, Arizona on July 13, 2007 6:24 PM
Keep reading in HBP chapter Horcruxes: Dumbledore says..."Voldemort was still at least one Horcrux short of his goal of six when he entered your parents' house with the intention of ing you. He seems to have reserved the process of making Horcruxes for particularly significiant s...I am sure that he was intending to make his final Horcrux with your ...After an interval of some years, however, he used Nagini to an old Muggle man (GOF), and it might then have occurred to him to turn her into his last Horcrux."
So another example of the limited number of Horcruxes. Also, bonus points, shows that although Voldemort wanted to make a Horcrux with HP's , because the AV curse backfired, he was unable to make one or accidentally put a piece of his soul in HP or his scar. He needed HP to actually to make the Horcrux not just the act of trying to him (I think). It is so a matter of interpretation. We all get our answers in about a week.
Posted by PKJ from Middle Tennessee, USA on July 13, 2007 7:04 PM
I beleive that Lupin and Hagrid to leave Harry with no fatherly figure. Snape and Peter have to because they owe Potter. Most of the eaters are caught/ ed(bellatrix is ed). Here are my two little twists and insight however:
1) Voldemort not be ed by Harry but be stripped of his powers making him the weakest wizard which is worse than because he knows what it is like to be the best. This is kinda like the revenge scheme of "The Count of Monte Cristo".
2) Also i beleive that dumbledore is alive and is just an unregistered animagus. He turns into a phoenix in the chapter the white tomb as the smoke is rising. This is good and explains why he has such a good relationship with fawkes and also it is the order of the phoenix or the order of dumbledore.
Posted by tjchui from virginia on July 13, 2007 9:18 PM
because of dumbledores hand being blackened, that harry said that it looked like it was , I'm just throwing this out there, what if dumbledore d from the curse on the ring before he d he asked snape to make him into a inferi long enough to get harry on the road to finding and destroying the horcuxes. Before Dumbledore was always protecting harry and not letting him know what was going on, then he just turned around and said I'll be giving you private listens and actually took him on a very dangerous journey, all this just doesn't sound like dumbledore unless he knew he didn't have much time. remember when harry asked him about his hand he said he would tell the story when he had time he said it was a fascinating story... sorry still think Hagrid, and arther are going to cop it.
Posted by Pamela sue from ark. on July 13, 2007 9:22 PM
I have to agree with Andrew on this one....I mean yes you are right that JKR does care about kids feelings, I don't think PKJ meant that in the way it was taken but let's face it.....if Sirius and Dumbledore can be ed off which devastated everyone not just little kids, then NO ONE is safe and Harry if kept alive not be kept alive just so younger kids aren't devastated. Personally, I think JKR has been preparing us for the devastating s to come in book 7 by ing off people Harry loves and has such strong connections to in the recent books.
And I totally agree with whoever said the stores selling the books should give free boxes of tissues with purchase of book....this one's gonna be rough no matter what happens.
As for Mrs. Weasley ing in book 7 I really think that if Harry lives she live too because she is the mother figure to Harry and loves him like her own....on the other hand that also gives JKR reason to her off as well. I really stopped trying to decide who lives through this war because it's just too hard and there's too many possiblilities and ways it could go, so I decided to just wait very impatiently for the book and go on the journey to the end right along with Harry.
Posted by sm on July 13, 2007 9:40 PM
wormtail save harry's life, voldemort s, and snape s
Posted by amar on July 13, 2007 11:31 PM
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