Search Beyond Hogwarts:

|
 |
 |
 |
Final Deathly Hallows Debates: Who Lives and Who Dies?

 We know for sure that some characters are going to die in Deathly Hallows. Last year in an interview, J.K. Rowling said that two characters die who she had not originally thought would die in the end of the story. That means at least two characters die, but probably more. And that's probably not counting Harry and/or Voldemort. So who lives and who dies? Tell us who you think will die, and more importantly, why you think so.Pages: << < 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 ... > >> Reader Comments: (Page 17) '...neither can live while the other SURVIVES'. That actually means that Harry cannot have a normal life if a single Horcrux remains, even if Voldemort is deprived of a body but still 'surviving'. Besides, if this is the last book she ever write in the series we have a right to expect a complete resolution. Posted by Charlie Tarbox from Gettysburg, Pa on June 29, 2007 07:44 AM
 |
what i so far understood is that all HP books show how JKR has been influnced by Tolkien and Pullman in her stories, along with greek tragedy rather than shakespeare. my point is that the general idea of the weak yet courageous facing strong and evil is very tolkien style. Having children facing adventure and through it growing is what Pullman actually introduced, giving the adolescent a hero's aura. But most important is the fact that in ancient greek tragedy, whoever broke the high rules of a society got punished, without regard to his or her good nature. There isn't any tolerance, even if they meant good or didn't understand the malicious outcome of the actions.
So far JKR introduced three (?) people in her books. Diggory, Sirius and Dumbledore. None of them can be considered innocent. Cedric's father committed the sin of arrogance, actually comparing Harry to his son, and has never been much of a likable person to begin with (see how he interrogated the house elf in GoF). Punishment was due according to greek tragedy. Sirius is far worse. Not only did he avoid to be the secret keeper to the place of where lily and james potter lived, in reality betraying his best friends, he also showed extreme recklessness and has been very keen on torturing snape. i think that his punishment was to loose his life, the moment he was to be reinstated, since the Ministry's affections towards Harry were about to change after OotP.
Dumbledore is perhaps the guiltiest of all. He was bound to since he was the one to deprive Harry of the whole truth about almost everything, he put Harry with the Dursleys for the softest of his years and always used harry for the ultimate goal, which was to the dark lord, without even considering his feelings.
That is why i think that snape also, paying for the betrayal against dumbledore and the potters, Percy Weasly for his overall behaviour, voldemort of course no reason necessary and in my opinion the ministers of magic, former and latter, due to the fact that all they wanted is power at any cost. If someone from the order has to i think it is mundugus. No other sacrifices needed. It would be unfair for Lupin to being not only sinless, but also in love with tonks, deserving such happiness at last.
I wouldn't dream of reading that the trio and ginny , although there must be a parting at the end. This is common to almost all authors of british origin. My guess is that Ron and Hermione remain in the UK probably as minister officials, while Harry and Ginny after the dark lord is defeated by necessity start a life long journey to discover something that has to do with Harry's scar. Posted by kok from salonika greece on June 29, 2007 08:35 AM
ks from bangalore-
i was just pointing out that priori incantatem result if Voldemort & harry's wands connect.. since most of the people assume that they still use wands in the final battle.
we all know that there are no wands at sight on the Scholastic cover. so what do you propose then that make them each other off? Posted by Ashley from Baguio City, Philippines on June 29, 2007 08:49 AM
 |
I think that one of the Weasleys ...there are too many of them for all of them to come out of it alive, as Mrs. Weasley pointed out in Book 5. Of course, I sincerely hope it's not Ron or Ginny. I think if it were Percy, that would be too easy. Bill has already been seriously mauled by Greyback, so I don't think it be him. I don't think Charlie go, either. Aside from the obvious tragic significance to Harry if either Ron or Ginny d, I think it would be dreadful if one of the twins d, leaving the other one to live out the rest of his life without his twin brother. That just might be saddest of all.
I also agree that Snape probably ...it's hard to imagine a character with such a double life/personality and so many complications getting out of this series alive. I can also see the logic in assuming that Hagrid , although just thinking about that makes me well up. I hope Hagrid's tough half-giant blood keeps him safe.
Peter Pettigrew...he has to repay his to Harry in some way. The obvious way, of course, would be for him to , since he owes Harry his life. But maybe he just save Harry's life, not himself? I have to say I won't miss him if he goes.
Finally, my biggest fear is that Harry himself . I hope that he Voldemort, but I think there's a good chance that Harry also either in the process of ing Voldemort, or in some other way after Voldemort is ed. Posted by Carly from Philadelphia, PA, USA on June 29, 2007 09:55 AM
I really hope that the trio makes it out alright. I think that one of the weasley twins (not that I want that to happen, as they 're my favorite characters), but I'm not sure which one. Neville probably too, along with Malfoy, Snape, and Bellatrix. Posted by bilbo baggins from detroit, michigan on June 29, 2007 10:48 AM
I'll bet that Rowling s Harry and one of his friends so that no one steal her idea and continue the series. I'm not sure that I want to have Harry because I really like him but then again, the series would never be the same if some one else wrote it. Posted by Mandy from Shedden on June 29, 2007 10:49 AM
I think that Harry and Voldimort . I think this because J.K Rowling won't want any one to continue her books (that is one reason i think Harry ) and that Harry is the last horcrux so he must and Voldemort get ed some how. I also think that Neville help harry in a big way. Posted by Emma from NY on June 29, 2007 11:22 AM
I be very disappointed with JKR if she s HP just to keep him to herself. It be very selfish of her to HP off without working it into the plot as believeable. I don't want any of the trio to , but if they do, JKR have to convince me that it is meaningful to the story. If that is not the case, I won't be attending the last 2 movies for sure. I would never be able to sit through a movie knowing they d.
I was already disappointed on how GoF was done as a movie. Did anyone else think that everyone especially the trio was too happy at the end of that movie? Also, does anyone else think there is no connection between the movie Dumbledore and HP--no chemistry at all compared to the books. Posted by PKJ from M'boro, TN on June 29, 2007 11:31 AM
I just found something I thought was interesting, its probably nothing as no one completely knows what JK is going to do in the final book but you never know.
if you go to youtube and listen to what helena bonham carter says when she is descibing her charactor she says, "i'm definitely milking every moment that I have." what do you think? maybe just a little bit of forshadowing? Posted by Brad from Grimshaw, AB on June 29, 2007 1:37 PM
 |
Here is a full list of who I think
1) Tom Riddle (AKA Lord Voldemort) the books have been wasted if it were otherwise
2) Snape. Snape probably trying to save Harry from Riddle
3) One of the Weasleys. I agree with many comments here, there are too many of them to avoid a tragedy in the last book, it probably be either Percy, who sees the error of his ways and could well get ed by a curse placed on a Horcrux, or either Fred or George, it would be far more tragic to have one of them ed than both
4) Hermione. I'm sorry, but I think Hermione fighting either Voldemort or one of the Eaters
5) One of the members of the order of the Phoenix. at least one be ed (But I hope it's not Tonks or Lupin, that would be far too tragic)
6) Vernon Dursley. Vernon probably be either ed or tortured into insanity by one of the Eaters, and this be when Petunia tells Harry everything she knows
7) Malfoy. he either be ed by Harry or by a Eater on Voldemorts orders
And heres who I think survive
1) Harry.
2) Ron.
3) Ginny Weasley. (She'll probably marry Harry at some point in the future)
4) Luna Lovegood. barmy as she is, Luna probably survive
5) Peter Pettigrew. as much as we hate him for revealing where the Potter's were in hiding, he repay his life to Harry and survive Posted by Ted Barlow from Manchester, Lancashire on June 29, 2007 1:41 PM
which 2 characters ? (jk says 2 main ones kick the bucket) i personally think it'll be harry and dudley. like, maybe voldy s harry, then s the last of the potter bloodline- just for good measure. Posted by megan from south carolina on June 29, 2007 1:53 PM
Regardless of whether or not Snape is actually ed, I don't believe this would be the last time he's heard from. If he is one of the "two" central characters who have to , perhaps he need to stay on at Hogwarts as one of the resident ghosts. This may very well be his opportunity to secure the DADA post he's wanted for so long. After all, Professor Binns appears to have a secure teaching position...
And speaking of the ghosts -- they may very well play a key role in the destruction of Voldemort. Who knows, Nearly Headless Nick may even lose his head, allowing him to FINALLY join in the Headless Hunt.
In JKR's own words, "Wizards have ways of making sure their voices are heard after their ..." Certainly, this would imply that we have not heard the last from Dumbledore or Sirius. Posted by Patti from Mill Creek, WA on June 29, 2007 2:35 PM
Pages: << < 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 ... > >>

|