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Prongs: It is said that Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald. It doesn't literally say that he ed him. He could have deprived him of his powers, got him to be kissed by a dementor, that would still be defeating.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on May 15, 2007 12:56 AM

The idea that Dumbledore may have a horcrux never occurred to me but, after reading this article, I think it's possible. It makes sense that the reason horcruxes are considered evil is because of the ing required to split the soul. I've always wondered about how Dumbledore defeated Grindlewald. How come no one has really ever mentioned it? Dumbledore is well-known and everyone obviously knows he defeated Grindlewald if it's on the back of a chocolate frog card. Maybe no one's mentioned it because people don't want to talk about the fact that Dumbledore ed someone.

While Dumbledore admits he's made mistakes, he always tries to make plans for different eventualities, which is why it makes sense that he would make sure he wouldn't really if someone tried to him. He's obviously dedicated to stopping Voldemort and would not want his to lessen Harry's chances of winning against Voldemort. Even though Harry must be the one to defeat Voldemort, according to the prophecy, he obviously have help. His friends want to help him and it makes sense that Dumbledore would want to help him, too.

There's just one question/concern I have with this theory. Most people would agree that there is a difference between ing the way Voldemort does it (out of hatred, cruely, and evil) and ing as a hero would (like Dumbledore allegedly ing Grindlewald or the way Harry must Voldemort). My question is whether a good person ing a villain would have the same effect of ripping a soul apart as a villain ing an innocent person. Obviously, a good person would still feel guilty about ing someone (the way Harry is nervous about having to Voldemort) but would know that it was necessary. Maybe that good person's soul would also be hurt, but would it be "ripped apart" enough to create a horcrux? I don't know. It's just a question I'm putting out there for consideration.

Anyway, Jan-Marie Spanard, I really enjoyed this article. You did a great job!

Posted by Sharmin on May 15, 2007 09:19 AM

Herve-I concur that so far no one has said exactly how Dumbldore defeated Grindelwald. I think it highly unlikely that he would have used a dementor to kiss Grindelwald. Remember how opposed he was to the Ministry allying itslef with them and how he wouldn't let them into the castle? It is possible like you said, that he could have some how deprived him of his powers.

Posted by Robbie from New Mexico on May 15, 2007 1:55 PM

maybe dumbledore also considered making one horcrux when he learned about voldemort's 7 horcruxes. i agree with you jan. it is possible that dumbledore made fawkes as his own horcrux, immortal and powerful at the same time for future come-back...

nice work jan marie spanard!

Posted by Amortentia ** from Manila, Philippines on May 22, 2007 9:04 PM

i highly doubt that dumbledore made a horcrux.

Posted by R.A.B. on May 26, 2007 5:03 PM

R.A.B.--
I understand that you doubt that Dumbledore made a Horcrux. I have my own theories about it, but forgive me for asking you why you feel this way. What makes you say that Dumbledore did NOT make a Horcrux? What put the doubt into your mind?

Posted by Ashley R. from Missouri on May 27, 2007 2:02 PM

Ashley R. from Missouri,

I think I can answer that one. Horcruxes are made to avoid , Albus Dumbledore is not afraid of , he himself said: "To the well organized mind, is just the next great adventure".

Albus also said that living like that was living a half life, a cursed life, or something along those lines.

Horcruxes are "Magik most evil", Dark Magic, which in book one Minerva McGonagall mentioned that Dumbledore knows the dark magic but is to noble to use it.

Albus is against anything unnatural, like splitting your soul.

Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 29, 2007 3:12 PM

Dumbledore is ing to forgive just about anyone. (A weakness of his apparently.)

Maybe he thinks people can change, because he himself once did "Magik most evil" in making a Horcrux, and has since become a leading force for the good side.

Posted by Brandon H from Hamilton, Ontario on June 3, 2007 12:58 PM

I am almost convinced that Dumbledore made a horcrux. There are a few other possiblities to explain what happened and happen to him, so I'm not 100% committed to the horcrux thing. I say this just having finshed HBP. I noticed something though, with his discussions with Harry about Voldemort's horcruxes. He never actually spoke ill of them as Slughorn did. Slughorn said it was dark magick and mentioned dark wizards, but Dumbledore never actually said anything that cast the horcruxes in a negative light. Please feel free to correct me on this if anyone spots something that I missed.

Posted by Robbie from New Mexico on June 5, 2007 1:58 PM

I think this theory is strongly lacking support for why Dumbledore would want to live forever. He always said that he was not afraid of , because it is only fear of the unknown.
jan mentions Dumbledore's friendship with Flamel. It is clear in the 1st book particularly that Dumbledore does not want to be immortal. He could have used the Philosophers stone, but he didn't. Also, he is able to explain to Harry that having the Elixir of Life was not 'such a wonderful thing'.

Robbie, i think the reason Dumbledore doesn't talk about horcruxes in a negative light like slughorn is because he is not afraid of them. it reminds me of the whole 'fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself'. i think this can account for that bit in HBP

Posted by Leigh on June 7, 2007 03:48 AM

i've read this whole website and it this article that has me thoroughly convinced dumbledore is not . at first i was repulsed by the idea of a horcrux made by dumbledore but now it makes sense. i also like the idea of the draught of the living but a horcrux is more beleivable.

Posted by fiona from limerick on June 14, 2007 12:06 PM

I don't know if Dumbledore made a Horcrux, but if he did, He probably accidentally did it and nobody ever figured it out.

Posted by Layna from Minnesota on June 14, 2007 6:10 PM

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