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Dumbledore's Horcrux
 by Jan-Marie Spanard
 How does a wizard learn about the existence and properties of Horcruxes? Who knows what they are, how to make them, what they can do? What wizard would make a Horcrux? Under what circumstances? And for what reasons? And why are they so evil? Hermione is working very hard to answer these questions. As Hogwarts virtual library search-engine, she is coming up empty. But Tom Riddle did it, somehow.
 > Read the full articlePages: << < 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 > >> Reader Comments: (Page 24) Dave - I wish you were right in saying that good people do not do bad things, but good people sometimes do bad things. I like to think that Harry is a good person, but he tried to use an unforgivable curse on Bellatrix. It's just that he didn't have the s to do it. And he used Sectumsempra, which he knew was a curse for enemies, on Draco Malfoy. He also pounded Draco with his fists after the Quidditch match between Gryffindor and Slytherin in Book 5 in extreme anger wanting toi cause him as much pain as possible.
Good people sometimes do bad things. They're human. They have guilt. They feel bad afterwards. But they often do bad things, both big and small bad things.
Suzie - Interesting thought about Dumbledore and Flamel: what was Dumbledore working on with nicholas Flamel? It wasn't the making of the Sorcerer's Stone. Flamel was over 500 years old when Dumbledore was born. Clearly the stone had been made already. So what was Dumbledore's "work" with Flamel? Posted by Jan-Marie from New York on April 30, 2007 4:59 PM
Joe from England-- I didn't say that every DADA teacher supported the Dark Arts. I was just wondering why Snape and Quirrel and, most especially, Voldemort, wanted to teach the subject, given that Voldemort is the evilest sorcerer ever to exsist, and the first person ever to make more than one Horcrux. Posted by Ashley from Missouri on April 30, 2007 6:44 PM
Jan-Marie-Thank you very much. That's what I was trying to say with my link with Yoda, but I guess I'm not as articulate as I thought. Good examples, too! Posted by Robbie from New Mexico on May 1, 2007 10:54 AM
Ashley from Missouri,
I don't remember in which book (but I think it was HBP) in a memory, Dumbledore tells Tom Riddle that he cannot have the position of DADA teacher, and later speculates that he wanted it as a recruiting ground for future Eaters. Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 2, 2007 09:32 AM
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this theory is very interesting dave... most of it convinced me. but i'm still quite disturbed with the fact that dumbledore created his own horcrux.. for what REASONABLE reason? i'm still not contented with your explanations on why he created his own horcrux... though the possible uses for dumbledore's horcrux are acceptable.
sure, he may have made one horcrux because he thought he might be needing it in the future for voldemort's defeat... but can't he just trust harry with voldemort's defeat? i mean harry's the hero here... since it's the 7th and last book, shoudn't harry defeat voldemort this time with HIS OWN strength and capacity, and not through sheer luck and talented friends?
i read somewhere that the mirror of erised come back in the 7th book. maybe harry wouldn't see an object there.. maybe he would see dumbledore. and through there he could get some advise or help from dumbledore. anyway, the mirror of erised says "erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi" (i show not your face but your hearts desire) seeing dumbledore and asking him for help is harry's desire, right? Posted by Ashley from Baguio, Philippines on May 2, 2007 10:05 PM
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I understand what you're saying, Ashley, and I agree. Most of the applicants for the DADA job are not really interested in Defence Against, but either interested in the Dark Arts themselves or taking the job for ulterior motives (or both). We don't know anything really about Pr. Merrithort, so we really can't count him. Then we have Tom Riddle, who we know at both times he applied was both fascinated by the Dark Arts and Albus speculates the motive of recruiting followers. Pr. Quirrell of course had Voldemort popping out of his head, and used the job to get to the Philosopher�s Stone. Gilderoy used it as a publicity stunt, but doesn't know anything about the actual subject. Alastor was employed for protection, but was kidnapped and replaced by an evil replica, who was working for Voldemort. Umbridge was appointed to keep Albus from building his supposed Army. And we know Severus has been fascinated with the Dark Arts ever since his own school days (and perhaps we'll find out other reasons why Albus decided to finally give him the job after 15 years applying for it). The only one who seems to actually want the students to protect themselves is Remus. And ironically, he is the one of all these people that wizard kind would tend not to trust because he is a werewolf. Posted by Monkeeshrines from Orlando FL on May 3, 2007 07:15 AM
My personal opinion is that yes, Dumbledore sadly, is , or if not, he might have used a horcrux. Due to the overwhelming amount of evidence in the last few chapters of HBP there is definitely more then meets the eye for Dumbledore's . I do beleive he make an appearance in the 7th book, JKR has made several references in books and interviews about finding answers for all those questions concerning , ghosts, and that's when Dumbledore's be fully explained.
Until reading this website I had not considered Dumbledore having a horcrux and at first I did not believe but after reviewing HBP there was one sentence said by Dumbledore that caught my eye. "ing is not nearly as easy as the innocent believe..." (HBP pg. 586) As much as I love Dumbledore and do not want to believe it, that above quote does not soundlike someone who hasn't ed before. Posted by Madeline from USA on May 6, 2007 09:07 AM
Well spotted Madeline! I agree, that does not sound like someone who has not ed before. Posted by Robbie from New Mexico on May 6, 2007 8:12 PM
To be convicted for drunk driving you must have been driving while drunk. Both conditions have to be met.
If you are drunk in a car, but not driving, or if you are drunk but not in a car, or if you are driving, but not drunk, you cannot be convicted for drunk driving.
All this said, Even if Dumbledore did someone, it does not mean that he has created a Horcrux.
Albus is the one that has told us that �to the organized mind, is but the next great adventure�, and I don�t think that anybody can tell us that his mind was not organized. Furthermore, Dumbledore is the one trying to get rid of Horcruxes and has told Harry that the life that Voldemort had while without a body was a half life, a cursed life, that he did not know anybody that would like that kind of existence.
Dumbledore, the advocate of purity and love, have a Horcrux? No way. Posted by Emilio from Mexico City, Mexico on May 8, 2007 5:22 PM
I think It is highly possible that Dumbledore created a horcrux for non-evil purposes. I also think it would have been a wise choice to make Fawkes the horcrux, which leads me to a second point (not entirely relevant), in book 6 HBP, when Snape suposedly ed Dumbledore, he would have had to Fawkes first. Which, of course, is not possible, which means Dumbledore cannot be . Posted by Keira on May 13, 2007 12:36 AM
We don't know that much about Dumbledore's past but we're sure that he commited a or caused at least one , the of Grindewald. Now assuming that you're the most powerful wizard in the world and you know that your services would be required for eternity, now doesn't a horcrux seem a necessity. As Dumbledore himself states he never found any use in divination so he couldn't have forseen what the young orphan Tom Riddle would turn in but we know he was always suspicious of him and feared what he might become so a horcrux still seems like a necessity, doesn't it? Practically though I myself don't believe that Dumbledore would such a horrible thing even for such a noble deed. Posted by Prongs from Athens,Greece on May 13, 2007 04:08 AM
when you said that quote "I would trust Hagrid with my life", I thought of Albus saying "I would trust Hagrid with Fawkes". Posted by Padpaw from florida on May 14, 2007 8:04 PM
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