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Dumbledore's Horcrux
by Jan-Marie Spanard
How does a wizard learn about the existence and properties of Horcruxes? Who knows what they are, how to make them, what they can do? What wizard would make a Horcrux? Under what circumstances? And for what reasons? And why are they so evil? Hermione is working very hard to answer these questions. As Hogwarts virtual library search-engine, she is coming up empty. But Tom Riddle did it, somehow.
> Read the full articlePages: << < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ... > >> Reader Comments: (Page 2) To Sheetal: ("but the point is how can he come back to life without the use of evil dark arts...") Remember at the end of Book 1 when Dumbledore visits Harry in the hospital wing and Harry asks if Voldemort still be able to come back - after removing the possibility of his using the Philosopher's Stone -- and Dumbledore says, "There are ways, Harry," in which he could return. Notice the use of the plural "ways".
We knew nothing about the horcruxes until Book 6 and I think it is quite premature to think that the information offered on them in that book is complete. I suspect we learn quite a bit more about horcruxes in Book 7 (possibiliy with Viktor Krum's help in being able to access the library at his shcool which openly teaches the dark arts). So far, we have seen that there is a potion and incantation that regenerates the body of a horcrux owner. Wormtail knows how to do this spell now that he had to learn it for Voldemort. But there may be other ways to regenerate the horcrux owner's body.
Think about the often cited ban on apparaition within the walls of Hogwarts. And then recall that Dumbledore grasps Fawkes's tail and disappears in a flash of fire to reappear somewhere else. Clearly this is not apparition (no spinning on the spot and disappearing into thin air), but it is something related and Dumbledore knows how to do it.
Perhaps Dumbledore -- who stud immortality with his friend Nicholas Flamel -- is aware of other means, other ways, of coming back via a horcrux. Perhaps he doesn't need to do it exactly the same way that Voldemort did. Posted by Jan-Marie from Newcomb, NY on September 13, 2006 04:22 AM
Hey, I do believe Dumbledore made a horcrux for a good reason. But I am not sure it was Fawkes. I think it may have been the Sorting Hat. This is because in the 4th book on pg 177 the hat sings
"While still alive they did divide (the founders)
Their favorites from the throng,
Yet how to pick the worthy ones
When they were and gone?
'Twas Gryffindor who found the way,
He whipped me off _*his*_ head
The founders put some brains in me
So I could choose instead!"
Now this says that the Hat was Godric Gryffindor's. I believe Voldemort wanted to use it in a Horcux. However in HBP in the chapter "Horcuxes" Dumbledore says the only remnant left of Gryffindor's is the sword. I think he knows the hat was one too and made it a horcrux. Its just my opinon. But something is fishy, because he lied to Harry, or he was mistaken about the sword being the only thing left. Posted by Mark on September 13, 2006 3:50 PM
There is a flaw in this theory of a horcrux. It says in the book, or the British version, anyway that he is famous for his "defeat", not "ing" Grindlewald.
As for how Tom Riddle found out about Horcruxes, he was probably in accquantance with some dark wizards anyway, and it was 50 years ago so maybe there was a book in the library that was so dark they banned it, even from the Restricted section. Posted by Claudia on September 14, 2006 04:27 AM
what do you think about the character R.A.B?
do you think it is borgin or burkes? Posted by ANMOL GARG from DELHI, INDIA on September 14, 2006 09:14 AM
Of course, nobody knows for sure, but I think most fans believe R.A.B. is Regulus Black, Sirius' brother who was ed by Voldemort. Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on September 14, 2006 09:23 AM
JKR already "confirmed" RAB was Regulus Black, because she said that no very important new characters would appear in book 7. (For more info, read the New Relevations article on this site) Posted by Aerendyll on September 14, 2006 11:01 AM
This is a very sophisticated theory that is out of this world.......I simply love the way everything is explained....You've got a new fan.... Posted by Julien, Pascal from N.L Canada!!! On. on September 14, 2006 3:14 PM
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I have always felt that Dumbledore was still alive, and I have done a lot of research to find evidence for my case. Basically, I think it comes down to a couple possibilities. One is clearly the horcrux, and I really liked how the horcrux was explained as not an inherently bad thing (the ing is the bad part of it!). That really made me think!
Look at the way Fawkes cries at the end of book 6, and then remember how Fawkes cried when Harry was fighting Riddle in the hidden chamber. It says that Fawkes’ cry brought Harry confidence and almost a feeling that Dumbledore was there himself. I think that the song of Fawkes at the end of book 6 is Fawkes' message to Harry to tell him things are okay. And I think that Harry find, through the R.A.B key, that Dumbledore, like Voldemort, has a horcrux. It is no coincidence that Dumbledfore helped make the sorcerer's stone(philosopher's stone).
My final point is this- Dumbledore is THE MOST powerful wizard alive, and could be the most powerful ever. Now ask yourself, would the most powerful wizard allow himself to be ed by his friend, and if it was planned (which is clearly was) then would he allow himself to really be ed, and not just fake it? I assure you Dumbledore could fake his , I trust him, and I trust in the fact that he would never leave if someone stayed loyal to him... That loyalty is here Dumbledore, I believe you are still alive! Posted by Brett from Boulder, CO on September 15, 2006 5:46 PM
Stephen King and John Irving have asked jk not to Harry, but if Harry was/is somehow connected to LV then they both may have to . It would be interesting if Harry had been made a horcrux himself. Posted by Jennifer from USA on September 16, 2006 10:33 AM
If we assume (for the sake of argument) that Fawkes is a horcrux for Dumbledore, I don't think Harry (or Snape) have to find Fawkes. In book 2, at the very end, Dumbledore said: "You must have shown me real loyalty down in the Chamber. Nothing but that could have called Fawkes to you."
This implies that all Harry has to do is to continue to be truly loyal to Dumbledore and (presumably) Fawkes gravitate towards him. This may present an interesting problem - what if, when the time came, Fawkes chooses Snape over Harry? I guess that tell us whose side Snape is on. In fact, how do we know that Fawkes hasn't already done that in the past, and that is one reason why Dumbledore trusted snape: because Fawkes trusted Snape? Posted by Francis from Lancaster, PA on September 16, 2006 11:44 AM
Oh my God!
this is exactly my theory!
i came up with this a while back and i did a google search of "Dumbledores Horcrux" to see if anyone else had the same ideas, and i found this. It is exactly like mine, Hagrid s, Fawkes is the horcrux, and i also have a little bit to add.
In the 6th book, Hagrid says that he overheard Snape and Dumbledore arguing, and i think that dumbledore was telling Snape to him, but Snape did not want to, which is why JK wrote that Snape had a very angry look on his face, and that is why dumbledore dropped to his knees, and started pleading to Snape. He wasnt pleading for Snape not to him, he was pleading for Snape TO him.
The Seventh book should be very interesting Posted by Jeff on September 17, 2006 10:30 AM
Hmmm... good theory. But you can't get rid of a few solid facts, such as the fact that they found no body when Voldemort was "ed" by Harry way back in the beginning. Posted by Jo from London, England on September 18, 2006 5:28 PM
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