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Dumbledore Is Not !

by David Haber

Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is. Snape's betrayal and the of Dumbledore caught me completely by surprise. Dumbledore was , and on top of that, Snape had done it. And all of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really , or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Eater, and he Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.

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What was James Potter's Patronus? What was his Animagi animal? Are the two usually the same? What are, if any, examples of them being different?

Posted by Kelsey Cvach from Scottsdale, Arizona on October 8, 2006 6:44 PM

We don't know what James' patronus was but he was a stag animagi. As for the other 2 questions, JK hasn't given us any examples. They may not necessarily be the same though.

Posted by Aditi Dani from Nagpur, India on October 9, 2006 12:22 PM

Firstly, the light of a spell can change, there is no proof that it can't. Any curse could exhibit a green flare, why not?

Secondly, an example of different patronous is from Tonks. Her patronous changed from one thing to another. I am not sure what it was before, but it is clear it changed to a dog resembling Sirius after he fell through the curtain.

We know with DD that he is the perfect resemblance of a phoenix, and that he exhibits a phoenix's attribtues. I think it is safe to say his patronous and animagi transformation would indeed be a phoenix... But for anyone else I don't think it can ever be a 100% accurate guess (like someone could have attributes of many animals, etc).

Posted by Brett J. from Boulder, CO on October 9, 2006 3:48 PM

Brett: I thought it was Harry that assumed that Tonks' patronus had changed into a dog because she was sad about Sirius' , but that in truth it had changed into a wolf because she was in love with Lupin.

Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on October 9, 2006 3:53 PM

Brett, Kelsey was asking about Animagi and Patronuses being the same.

Posted by Aditi Dani from Nagpur, India on October 9, 2006 10:53 PM

I think that AD's was planned by him to be executed by Snape but with a reason..... something that he can only find out or reason out from going to the other side... maybe he needed to speak to or get it revealed by someone memories not communicated to anyone and therefore he has to / go to the other side learn that memory and maybe communicate to Snape or HP and help in vanquishing LV

Posted by Gayathri from Chennai, India on October 10, 2006 02:09 AM

In one of the books they talk about/make a "living-"-poision. My and one of my friends theory is that Dumbledore drank that, before everyone saw him lying under the towel. On the burial, when he sat himself on fire he simply transformed himself into a phoenix and fly away...

Posted by juliap from g�teborg, sweden on October 10, 2006 07:28 AM

to tell you the honest truth...i really think that dumbledor is ....but you knoe the pictures of previous headmasters and head mistresses that had d previous years now reside in the office of the new headmistress(professor Mogonigal)? well....i think that in a way dumbleore still lives because i remember before dumbledoe d he could tallk to the people in the pictures.....so if he could talk to them why can't harry or ne one else talk to dumbledor in his picture. You knoe....they could still ask him important questions about his theories and what he believes about voldemort.....Right?

Posted by Alyssa from Los Angelas on October 13, 2006 1:06 PM

Hey, I did not have time to read all of the comments but I don't think the following was mentioned. On the US version p. 608 it says "Dumbldore's eyes were closed; but for the strange angle of his arms and legs, he might have been sleeping." Well normally (not always) before you you have an involuntary action/reflex that opens your eyes. This supports the "Drought of Living Theory." It certainly makes sense.

Posted by Mark H on October 16, 2006 1:56 PM

It may make sense, but we know that some people are braver than others, and when you know what's about to come and you are prepared for it, you don't react the same as anybody else.

Dumbledore is one brave guy and he KNEW that Draco's mission was to him, as he reveals it himself when they have that "pleasant conversation" in the Astronomy Tower.

This may be a loophole, but we can't just rule out Dumbledore's braveness.

Posted by Ra�l Llavaneras from San Antonio de Los Altos, Venezuela on October 16, 2006 7:53 PM

Just wondering, to retrieve the medallion horcrux in the cave, DD had to drink some kind of potion. WHAT WAS IT? What if it was drought of living ? Or what else could it have been?

Posted by Gabriele on October 17, 2006 03:33 AM

Here's something I noticed that I haven't seen discussed anywhere. When HP is leaning over AD's body, he wipes away a trickle of blood from AD's face. people don't bleed. Maybe JKR just didn't know that, but she does her research, and she mentioned that the Inferi didn't bleed when slashed by the Sectumsempra curse. And she loves using seemingly insignificant details...
And AD told Malfoy "He cannot you if you are already ." Seems like AD knows how to fake s very convincingly. But if AD is truly, permanently (I certainly hope not), then JKR have to explain away a lot of clues that point the other way.

Posted by Heather from New Hampshire on October 18, 2006 12:26 AM

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