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Dumbledore Is Not !

by David Haber

Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is. Snape's betrayal and the of Dumbledore caught me completely by surprise. Dumbledore was , and on top of that, Snape had done it. And all of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really , or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Eater, and he Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.

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dumbledores not . the person snape ed was wormtail and he took the polyjuice potion to turn in to dumbledore. as you may remember in the goblet of fire book, wormtail gave up his hand to voldemort and harry asked dumbledore whats wrong with your hand, and this reason is because wormtail had to help harry because he saved wormtail in the PoA.

Posted by kirsty from ireland on July 3, 2007 12:23 PM

if dumbledore is and harry is going to voldemort all by himself and with the help of ron and hermoine, then it would be a disappointing end. never ever in the whole series harry has been shown as an exceptionally talented wizard though he has lots of courage, but that won't be enough against an evil like voldemort. in the whole book of half blood prince we have been shown that its dumbledore vs voldemort. by ing dumbledore, rowling show a triumph of evil. if snape is a traitor then it sends the message of the sort "never trust anyone". i was hoping that dumbledore do a gandalf but after JK has flatly ruled out it, it beats me how voldemort .

Posted by rishabh from new delhi on July 6, 2007 1:51 PM

two more points in addition to david haber's article;
1) in the half blood prince as harry goes near dumbledore's body, its written
"dumbledore's eyes were closed; but for the strange angle of his arms and legs, he might have been sleeping."
what is the point of writing this line?
2) another thing which underlines that there is some thing else that we don't know about snape and lily. this line is when harry says to lupin about snape ing dumble dore.(HBP pg 575)
"and he didn't think my mother was worth a damn, either, said harry"
then its written; "nobody asked how harry knew this"

Posted by rishabh from new delhi on July 6, 2007 2:49 PM

I think that Dumbeldore knew he was going to . Because he is a very smart wizard indeed. It may seem like he planned something but it was not to happen on the day that he d. I mean maybe there was a plan and Snape did finish it off. But not at the right time. And what was Dubeldore pleading about just before he d? Was he asking snpae to him or was he speaking to Snape using Occulumency?

Posted by Hermione from Macomb, MI on July 7, 2007 08:22 AM

Here's something I caught; HBP, page 607. I didn't see this in your article.

We know Hagrid is good for letting bits of info slip:

"What musta happened was, Dumbledore musta told Snape ter go with them Eaters." Hagrid said confidently. "I suppose he's gotta keep his cover. Look, let's get yeh back up ter the school. Come on Harry..."

Why would Hagrid say that, about "Snape keeping his cover," unless he knows that Dumbledore has Snape working for him against the Eaters? Maybe Hagrid even knows more than that.

Also, compare these 2 scenes:

OOTP, Page 622
Fawkes circled the office and swooped low over him. Dumbledore released Harry, raised his hand, and grasped the phoenix's long golden tail. There was a flash of fire, and the two of them were gone.

HBP, page 645
Bright white flames had erupted around Dumbledore's body and the table upon which it lay; higher and higher they rose, obscuring the body. White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes. Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but the next second, the fire had vanished.

Posted by Just Harry from PA on July 10, 2007 06:21 AM

Dumbledore IS . But that doesn't mean he's gone. The portraits in the headmaster's office all talk- in OotP, Phinneus Nigellus tells Harry not to leave Grimmauld Place from his second portrait there, and he's always outspoken when Harry visits Dumbledore in his office.
So Harry can still get advice from Dumbledore's portrait, because the portraits still have all of their previous knowledge. Right? so, Harry have to return to hogwarts at some point in book 7 to talk to dumbledore, even though in book 6 he decided he wouldn't.

Posted by onemoreday from helena,mt on July 10, 2007 09:03 AM

onemoreday: I don't think that the portraits help Harry because if it was so, Harry would spend his time in front of Dumbledore's portraits to get advice.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on July 10, 2007 11:47 PM

Harry at one stage, asked Nearly Headless Nick why some people and others become ghosts (when Sirius s). The answer is something along the lines of those who don't want to or have something left undone in this world remain as ghosts. Its said that the person has a choice.

Therefore, I have theory that Dumbledore return as a ghost so that he is able to help Harry find the horcruxes.

Posted by Ettie from Sydney Australia on July 11, 2007 03:14 AM

Having stud a few books in school, I have found that eyes play a big part in the symbolism. Check in the Harry Potter books every time the ing Curse is used. It always specifically says that the eyes are open, and it looks as if the victims had been scared to . But in Dumbledore's case, his eyes are closed, and it looks as though he was sleeping. This is good support to the argument that he is not , since the effects of the ing Curse are described differently. A couple ways that could make Dumbledore appear are: 1) The Draught of the Living , as someone mentioned a while back. The hard part about that one is How would have Dumbledore taken it? Harry was right by his side for hours and hours before he d. 2) We are all aware of the possibility of witches and wizards making up spells: creating them. Snape and Dumbledore could have created a "Temporary" ing Curse, allowing Snape to fulfill the Unbreakable Vow.

Although I wish these were true, which they could be, I believe Dumbledore is, in fact, . When looking at the series as a work of art, and not just a fun series to read, there are things that writers do to make their readers love their work. One of them is, of course, success of the hero, which we've had plenty of in the series. Another one is adding clues in which some lead to things that do happen, and others are Red Herrings. I believe that these clues to Dumbledore living are Red Herrings.

Dumbledore's role in the series is over. He remains a mystery when it comes to his past, which lets him remain such a likeable character. But think about it: what else could Dumbledore do to contribute to the book? Sure, he could do a lot of things, but not without overshadowing the REAL hero, Harry. Remember, this is the Harry Potter series, not the Albus Dumbledore series. Dumbledore's role is finished, which is why JKR had Dumbledore tell Harry everything in the 6th book, so Harry could finish on his own (with the help of Ron, Hermione, and the rest of the Order) but not Dumbledore because he would solve the problems too quickly. In a good series, there should be struggle.

Posted by MacBerjoin from Utah on July 11, 2007 1:53 PM

More proof that Dumbledore is alive!

I agree with the theory that RAB is in fact Regulus Black. Not only because of the evidence shown in his website, but for another reason that I ran across while reading the 6th book the third time. During the battle in Hogwarts (Order vs. Eater), Lupin describes a barrier that only the Eaters can pass through. Harry guesses that "you had to have a Dark Mark to get through". We encounter a similar barrier earlier in the book when Harry and Dumbledore are in the cave. Harry's hand is unable to touch the potion in the basin. Later, in RAB's note, RAB says "I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can". But in order for RAB to get the Horcrux, he must have had to drink the potion. But the potion is still there when Harry visits the cave. THEREFORE, RAB must have been a Eater, so he could penetrate the surface. The barrier had the same qualities as the one in Hogwarts so Voldemort could get at his Horcrux with out doing himself harm.

Posted by Martha from Milwaukee, Wisconsin on July 11, 2007 5:33 PM

1. JK already confirmed that Dumbledore is in fact , right? so, what if Dumbledore (in book 7) took a time turner back to the first book and lives as Mrs. Figg (polyjuice potion) across the street from harry so he can keep a safe watch on him. Then the Dumbledore that we see , really DOES and everyone's sad. But the Dumbledore that traveled back in time reveals himself and helps Harry (only to a certain degree) find the remaining Horcruxes. I know it's a little out there, but that's the way JK Rowling thinks isn't it?

2. I read a few comments that said that Dumbledore must be because his portrait is hanging in his office. However, those portraits are of previous Headmasters. not DEAD headmasters. PREVIOUS. Dumbledore has merely left the school. That does not necesarily mean he is .

Posted by Martha from Milwaukee, Wisconsin on July 11, 2007 6:03 PM

First i would like to say that Snape had to have ed Dumbledore or Snape would be because of the Unbreakable Vow, which s you if you don't follow through with the vow, which in this case was "If Draco could Not Dumbledore than Snape would do it"
It is that simple that snape had to do it.

Furthermore on the alternate spell theory the book says a flash a green light not a flash of red light.

Posted by brian from california on July 11, 2007 6:07 PM

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