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Dumbledore Is Not !

by David Haber

Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is. Snape's betrayal and the of Dumbledore caught me completely by surprise. Dumbledore was , and on top of that, Snape had done it. And all of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really , or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Eater, and he Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.

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The Eaters saw Dumbledore '' certainly when they go back to Voldemort they would tell him how he 'd' differently. Voldemort being one of the smartest wizards in the world would notice the difference in the of Dumbledore and a 'normal' Avada Kedavara curse. That has to count for something.

Posted by Anonymous on June 25, 2007 3:16 PM

I think that if Dumbledore is the greatest wizard, and the only one that Voldemort has ever been afraid of, the way he d was not in character with everything that JKR has been telling us during all the books about him. He is also a great occlumens, since he told Harry he made a mistake when he asked Snape to teach him how to close his mind instead of doing it himself, so it would have really been very hard for Snape to fool him about his sincerity when he came and said he did not want to be a eater anymore. The way everything happened in the tower, that would have been a very weak for such a great wizard. I only hope that JKR does not let us down in the last book. So far, she has not done it.

Posted by mcm from germantown, md on June 25, 2007 8:59 PM

I think that Dumbledore is because even Jo says that Harry has to take the path alone, plus it makes it more interesting for Harry to learn on his own. But my only question is, was it planned?

Posted by Fisher from Dina town, CA on June 26, 2007 09:15 AM

I like the idea of Dumbledore becoming a dragon, to help Harry, Ron and Hermione. It fits with the theory that Dumbledore went through the DH, went back to the past and lived a few more years befoe at the end of HBP.

Three possibilities, though:

(1) The dragon appears and helps Harry. We further discover that he was Dumbledore.

(2) Dumbledore shows up and becomes a dragon. I don't like this one, because it would spoil the book and it doesn't fit with the theory that Harry has to go alone without the help of Dumbledore.

(3) Dumbledore appears as another wizard. Even better, as a squib. Harry, Ron and Hermione help him become a dragon, just like James, Remus and Sirius helped Peter become an animagus. My two cents on Filch, even if very unlikely.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on June 26, 2007 09:43 AM

What about the symbolism of Fawkes? A bird that appears to dye only to be reborn from the ashes... Dumbledore's setting ends up like a pyre...

Do we need much more logic than that?

Posted by kck11599 from PA on June 26, 2007 12:52 PM

Although I don't have the book in front of me to quote, a couple of things that I found interesting in the 6th book dealt with J.K. Rowling's clever phrasing. Firstly, when Harry reached Dumbledore's "" body he saw the locket which looked as though it had been placed strategically alongside Dumbledore although Harry merely passes it off as having been opened up and placed neatly next to his body due solely to the impact of the fall. Luckily for Harry the locket had been "placed" and opened up to give Harry his first clue as to where he should go next. Secondly, at Dumbledore's J.K. Rowling's explanation of the floating body and tomb is very interesting because she says something to the effect of: Harry almost thought he saw something (a person) rising from the site, but the cloud and haze hovering around Dumbledore's body made it difficult to see anything. Then the Phoenix flew away. Once again, Harry just passes it off as a trick of the mind and eye.

I do agree with some ideas that book 7 might be more suspenseful if Dumbledore is truly (granted J.K. Rowling could make a marshmallow ad suspenseful), but I believe that there is enough coy wording to assume that Dumbledore had intended for this to happen. Imagine how surprised Voldemort would be to learn that Dumbledore hadn't really d. I do believe that Harry has tasks to complete on his own without Dumbledore, but on top of all of the other so-called evidence, it seems as though Dumbledore is probably still living.

There is the conversation with Snape that Hagrid overheard, Dumbledore's continued belief that Snape has truly proven himself to Dumbledore (by the way... Harry's sore explanation of why Dumbledore trusted Snape wasn't really sufficient. Dumbledore didn't explain why he trusted Snape, only that Snape had proven his allegiance and guilt after he had given information to Voldemort). Plus, Snape never actually told Narcissa and Bellatrix what he believed the plan to be, only that he knew it. Not once does Snape ever truly admit to knowing anything, not even to Draco. Even though he made the Unbreakable vow, he still may not have even known what the plan was. On top of that, there is Dumbledore's odd pleading at the end... one minute earlier he was not cowering at all, why now would he be pleading for his life with Snape? Why would he have even suspected Snape of being a eater at that point unless he was actually begging him to perform the deed that he had previously asked him to do (which we already know Snape did not want to do). Also, why would Dumbledore have made Snape teach DADA if he didn't have other plans. I think that it is obvious that even if Dumbledore believed it was his time to go, he had intended for it. Snape ing Dumbledore was not an accident. Oh and I forgot... Dumbledore knew that it was Draco who was trying to him and he didn't do anything to stop it. Why?

Posted by Megan from Houston, Texas on June 26, 2007 2:37 PM


We should consider that Dumbledore can foresee the future. That's how he knows that Snape remains on the good side, and maybe he already knew that Snape would end up ing him for some good reason. Snape, not Malfoy. What I think about this, and exposed here in a few posts, is that the Dumbledore Harry knows is a Dumbledore who came seven years back, using a time-turner at the end of "the ly Hallows".

This way, Dumbledore is present in "The ly Hallows", and Jo is right in saying that he's for ever at the end of HBP.

But, to preserve suspense, and to make Harry believe that he must do everything alone, Dumbledore won't show up to Harry and to us until the end of the book. He won't show up as Dumbledore, maybe he appear under another shape, either human or animal.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on June 28, 2007 03:59 AM

Hmmm. That hand twitch. There has to be a reason it was mentioned. Maybe rather than a nervous twitch, there was something magical about it, if maybe Severus and Narcissa had a different "plan" in mind, or because Severus didn't really know the plan at all, the magic of the Vow tried to repel him. "...But he did not draw away" could be that he was resisting this repel effect, kind of like when you force two magnets to touch south ends together.

Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on June 28, 2007 12:32 PM

I think Snape's hand twitches because from that point there is no going back...he's commited to the rest of the plan that he and Dumbledore have been working on. He's commited to Dumbledore...who has been his powerful protector for 15 years...and to go back to being at Voldemort's side full time...with all the danger that this implies. Enough to make anyone's hand twitch.

But I also think the magnet idea is great!

Posted by Joe from England on June 29, 2007 03:10 AM

What if the hand that twitched was hurt? What if Dumbledore used Polyjuice Potion to become Snape? It would explain the twitch because Dumbledore had hurt his hand through the horcrux ring. This would bring evrything in another perspective because then Dumbledore actually made the unbreakable vow to Narcissa, not Snape. Would this mean that Dumbledore had to himself?

Posted by Dirk from Workum, Holland on June 30, 2007 11:43 AM

OK well i know everyone has their own theories about how/why Dumbledore is or isn't ...BUT i think people are forgetting some of the most important points the novel makes!


1) all i'm hearing is snape and dumbledore HELLO Voldemort?

2) and whose to say that harry or even dobby the house elf hadn't been impersonating snape with the polyjuice potion when he made the unbreakable vow!

3) As for the contemplation that Dumbledore could be its just inconceivable considering the stance to which he has been built throughout the novels. Such and unexplained and uncharacteristic is simply a a dishonor to Dumbledore himself. I feel it is just a ploy within the novel to retain the readers interest.

4) The main objective of Dumbledore's supposed is to simply shock the aunce and provoke thought in the minds of the extremely interested. Although i feel that many readers have over-analyzed the situation and by-passed the fact the it would be an extremely poorly judged and out-of-character move for JKR as an author to dispose of Dumbledore completely!

Posted by sally kinks from redfern, sydney on July 1, 2007 07:20 AM

I want to believe that Black and Dumbledore are alive. The main reason for me to think that is what Hermione used, the time changer. I believe that the device was used, and I went back to reread books 5 and 6 with that in mind. Something to think about.

Posted by Ken on July 3, 2007 06:28 AM

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