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Dumbledore Is Not !

by David Haber

Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is. Snape's betrayal and the of Dumbledore caught me completely by surprise. Dumbledore was , and on top of that, Snape had done it. And all of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really , or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Eater, and he Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.

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i know this seem really simple but-don't people have to MEAN unforgivable curses for them to work? for eg, when harry tried to curse bellatrix in Order of the Phoenix with cruciatus curse she simply laughed and told him that it didn't work because he didn't mean it.
my point is, perhaps snape didn't mean the avada kedavra curse inflicted upon dumbledore therefore it wouldn't have the desired effect. i also agree with the article that snape is also thinking of another alternate curse, maybe expelliarmus, at the time he 's' dumbledore?

Posted by han wilson from newcastle, england on April 2, 2007 11:56 AM

Han Wilson--
I think that Snape ed Dumbledore because Dumbledore told him to. I think Snape meant the curse and ed Dumbledore.

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on April 2, 2007 3:51 PM

Evan: what Trelawney said is what Firenze would call human superstition. McGonagall didn't seem to care much about it. But anyway, I have another explanation that would fit with the fact that Dumbledore and Filch are said to be together just at this moment, the only time we are told that Dumbledore and Filch eat together.

If, as I pretty much believe, Filch and Dumbledore are the same person -thanks to timeturning- there are only twelve persons around the table.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on April 3, 2007 02:10 AM

As far as non-verbal spells go in the if Dumbledore really is idea, in the chapter flight of the prince, snape still is trying to teach harry, while he is fleeing, also JK Rowling could be using this conversation, as clues,

"Fight back!" Harry screamed at him. "Fight back, you cowardly-----"
"Coward, did you call me, Potter?" shouted Snape. "Your father would never attack me unless it was four on one, what would you call him, I wonder?"
"Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!" sneered Snape, deflecting the curse once more.

In this scene of the book we can see where Snape is still trying to teach harry that he must close his mouth AND his Mind if he wants to succeed in defeating the dark lord, and also it shows the fact that snape can use non-verbal spells fairly well.

Posted by Ron from Valdosta, ga on April 5, 2007 5:31 PM

I think that most of what you say must be true, yet i am not sure that snape is on any side really, he might just be in it to get two slices of the cake, in other words, he is working for both sides equaly, but in the end he probably do whatever he wants, which would be, by now, getting out of this whole thing. I think that Dumbeldore must of had some sort of plan, he always does, and i think that it might have been planning his own "" which is probably (hopfuly) fake. As for the rest of the stuff, it seems to be pointing in the right direction. Another idea involving potions that i have would be involing a love potion, because maybe that would be like poison to vodemort, and to dumbledor, it would probably have little or no effect other than forced love (or maybe not even that) Dumbledore obviously "d" for a reason that night, or of course there is the idea that he really is gone.

Posted by Andrea on April 7, 2007 6:18 PM

I was drowning in tears until I found this site. It really is good therapy! And I have been wondering about another argument.. If Dumbledore really had planned his , why didnt he tell Harry? I mean, of course there's the risc of Harry telling someone, but he wouldnt tell anyone if Dumbledore told him not to, right? I just cant imagine Harry ever forgive Dumbledore of this scene if it was just all fake. I cant imagine the conversation between Harry and Dumbledore on paper. Maybe that's just me, and as much as I want Dumbledore to be alive, I just think it's a weird scenario... Anyone understand me?

Posted by Anne, Denmark on April 11, 2007 12:15 PM

Wow, this site has opened my eyes...

But I have to admit that a part of me still believes that Snape really did Dumbledore... Maybe Dumbledore did make a mistake by trusting Snape and in the end, it lead to his . This passage in HBP is what makes me believe that Snape really is evil;

"He broke off, looking out the window. He could not stop himself dwelling upon Dumbledore's inexcusable trust in Snape... but as Hermione had just inadvertently reminded him, he, Harry, had been taken in just the same... In spite of the increasing nastiness of those scribbled spells, he had refused to believe ill of the boy who had been so clever, who had helped him so much..." (HBP pg 637-638)

Dumbledore's trust in Snape mirrors Harry's trust in The Half-Blood Prince, and the things that he wrote in the potions book... Maybe J.K. Rowling put that in to make the reader have the same views as I have. But hey, we`ll just have to wait until ly Hallows comes out!

Posted by Electrixx from California on April 12, 2007 12:14 AM

If Harry had known, he would have done everything to prevent it. I think Dumbledore froze him to avoid his reactions.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on April 12, 2007 02:49 AM

Absolutely herve! I concur. I don't understand why Albus would insist on Harry putting on the invisibility cloak to fetch Severus and then taking his last chance to freeze him if the whole thing was not planned from the start, including having Harry witness it.

Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on April 12, 2007 09:33 AM

And also, Dumbledore asked the Dursleys to take Harry home the next summer, at the very beginning of HBP. It looks that he could foretell he wouldn't be there the next year.

Posted by herve on April 12, 2007 11:57 PM

how does draco come into this, being there just at the right time to stop Harry going for snape? Am I missing something? even if it was supposed to be snape that came through the door, how could it have been timed so well, also to have all those lovely witnesses to the ? Someone help me get back to it all being a faked

Posted by Anonymous from uk on April 13, 2007 09:20 AM

"If Dumbledore really had planned his , why didnt he tell Harry?" Ann, this goes back to Harry not being able to shield his thoughts. He never did succeed at Occlumency, and when Harry met up with Voldemort later, Voldemort would have been able to read his thoughts and know that Dumbledore was not .

Posted by robthomaseyes from Morristown, New jersey on April 15, 2007 09:33 AM

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