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Dumbledore Is Not !

by David Haber

Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is. Snape's betrayal and the of Dumbledore caught me completely by surprise. Dumbledore was , and on top of that, Snape had done it. And all of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really , or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Eater, and he Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.

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Some of the clues that you guys have found are very good. I know that we'd all like to think that Dumbledore isn't , but I think that you also have to believe the author when she says that a character is gone.
But as for clues against Dumbledore's , I think that there might be one, unless someone has already said it. At the end of HBP, there is a part where the white tomb is on fire and Harry thinks he sees a phoenix:
"Then several people screamed. Bright, white flames had erupted around Dumbledore's body and the table upon which it lay: Higher and higher they rose, obscuring the body. White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished." (HBP 645 - American Version)
Now this can't possibly be what happens every time a wizard or witch s. The next typed words may seem a little far-fetched... Could Snape have said Avada Kedavra out loud, but have thought a nonverbal spell that wasn't lethal? If so, Dumbledore is still alive. Also, we know that JKR confirmed Dumbledore's patronus is a phoenix, but could Albus Dumbledore also be an Animagus? Harry thought he saw a phoenix fly through the flames... Maybe Dumbeldore's animagus is a phoenix, if he is an Animagus.

Posted by William from Virginia on March 14, 2007 1:34 PM

I reckon that Dumbledore is an animagus simply because it's Dumbledore and even if he isn't registered or anything then he'd easily be able to transform into an animal.

Posted by George from MK on March 14, 2007 7:54 PM

Couldn't Harry just use a Time-Turner and go back and save Dumbledore... if he goes back in time he could use his invisibility cloak and niether harry's would see each other...

Posted by Julian from Canada on March 15, 2007 4:31 PM

In theory, he could, but I'm pretty sure in the course of the books it has been established that all the time-turners have been destroyed...

Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on March 15, 2007 4:42 PM

Yes all the time-turners were destroyed at the MINISTRY but are we forgetting someone in Hogwarts who still has one...Hermione Granger still has one...could this a new possibility?

Posted by Julian on March 15, 2007 4:46 PM

Unless she lied, Hermione says she turned hers in, at the end of the year, in Prisoner of Azkaban. That was two years before the time-turners were destroyed at the Ministry in Order of the Phoenix. So, it's possible Hermione's time-turner may (you'll pardon the expression) turn up again, if perhaps Professor McGonagall held onto it, but it's more likely it went back to the Ministry and was later destroyed.

Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on March 15, 2007 4:50 PM

all of this totally makes sense i totally agree. dumbledore cannot be .

Posted by rilke from stl, missouri on March 16, 2007 08:08 AM

I don't think Harry could go back and save Dumbledore, because that would mean he was there and saved him in the scene that was described in HBP (most probably, you can't change the past by time-turning, only make it the way it was). If Harry saved Dumbledore, wouldn't it Snape?

Posted by herve from strasbourg on March 16, 2007 09:10 AM

I think that Dumbledore is . But that Snape didn't him, I don't remember if we ever found out what the potion is that Dumbledore drank to get the horcrux, it might have ed him see he might have been and was begging Snape to make it look like he ed Dumbledore and right as Dumbledore d he shouted the ing curse. so Snape wouldn't have really ed him.

Posted by Rebekah from Alabama on March 16, 2007 7:00 PM

Sorry, folks, Dumledore's really , IMHO. But is relative in the wizarding world. I STRONGLY suspect that Dumbledore - in the form of his portrait in the Headmistress' office - is going to have a real impact on Book 7.

As to Dumbledore's at Snape's hands, my take is this:

I suspect that Snape told Dumbledore of the Unbreakable Vow, and that information was tucked away for later use. If Dumbledore knew of Malfoy's activities, he may have used the knowledge of Snape's Vow as insurance. If Dumbledore suspected that his was necessary - and he would be ing to make that sacrifice in order to preserve Harry - Snape's involvement insures 1) that Snape is alive to continue to protect Harry in his own way and 2) Voldemort place Snape at his right hand, giving Snape access to even more knowledge about Voldemort's plans.

Your mileage may vary, of course.

Posted by Scott from Champaign, IL on March 16, 2007 7:40 PM

My milage seems to be pretty much in sync with yours, Scott. That's exactly how I read the set up.

I think you touch on something very important when you say that Dumbledore would be ing to to preserve Harry - it's not just Harry's importance in the fight against Voldemort that would make Dumbledore ing to for him. Dumbledore genuinely loves Harry. We've seen that over and over again.

Posted by Elizabeth from Australia on March 17, 2007 06:14 AM

We know that Dumbledore feels that Harry is way more important than himself because he refuses to let Harry drink the potion in the cave in HBP.

Quote: "Why can't I drink the potion instead? asked Harry desperately. "Because I am older, much cleverer and much less valuable," said Dumbledore."

Dumbledore is definitely telling us that he knows something about the future here or at the very least has a plan. Why would he say much cleverer? He would otherwise just say older and much less valuable. I think it must go beyond just the love he feels for Harry.

Posted by Jennie from Beachwood NJ on March 18, 2007 10:52 AM

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